Can I ask why? I LIKE the retain/release explicit model. It gives me control, and a careful developer can make a leaner, more elegant app without the overhead of a garbage collector.
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Apple Releases iPhone SDK 4 Beta to Developers
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Can I ask why? I LIKE the retain/release explicit model. It gives me control, and a careful developer can make a leaner, more elegant app without the overhead of a garbage collector.
bacaramac
macrumors 65816
Umm, just sold my 3GS for $420 and it was purchased day 1. That is enough to pay purchase price, early term fee, activation fee and tax.
I do this every year with AT&T and then I get a new line. I wait to cancel the old line so I keep the same # and port it over or transfer the # to the new account/line. OR you can just add the line to existing account and make it a family plan for a month and then just term the new line after the return period.
Yes, I have to live for a few months without an iPhone, but I survive.
Probably not relevant, but the SDK banner mentions 'Tuesday the 17th'. The most recent Tuesday the 17th falls during August...
WilliamLondon
macrumors 68000
Oh well, it's not like suddenly people are upgrading phones more often. That's been going on awhile, so they should either already know that (and assume phone manufacturers will release upgrades to the phones they just bought) or just have to make do with what they have (oh for shame, having to keep my phone I just bought!).
A 24-36 month contract has some benefits by the way, as in lower monthly payments and lower initial phone price. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Of course, even some will offer an upgrade if you're in a contract like that.
Point being - I wouldn't lose any sleep over anyone in a contract of that duration, me being one of those people in 24 month contracts (just signed!).
I'm wondering what are the features the iPod Touch 2G can support, since it's so similar to the 3rd-gen Touch (I know, with the big difference of the faster processor — but that is why the 2nd-gen won't have multitasking).
BUt, as is quoted above, I don´t feel as bad as some 3GS and 3rd-gen Touch users, who will be angry with Apple.
so can I just download this off one of those not so reputable sites like I did the 3.0 betas? Or does it require some kind of key?
You're interperating this information somewhat incorrectly.
All 3GS phones will work with the all new features.
The 3rd Gen iPod Touch (which are limited to the 32GB and 64GB versions, the 8GB and 16GB were from the 2nd generation) will work with all the new features.
no i read it, its talking about the touch thats y its says "and" after but im pretty sure it means only the touch but don't get mad if im wrong
trekkie604
macrumors 68000
No. It will be June/July. Apple has previously stated that they will release iPhone updates on a 12 month cycle timed around early summer. So far they have stuck to that and the timing of the OS 4.0 preview, the OS 4.0 official release date, as well as other rumors fall in line with that cycle. Besides, it only makes sense as a 12 month cycle lines up perfectly with the 24 month duration of the subsidized purchase service contracts. An 18 month update cycle would screw that up and be completely stupid. The only reason to think there would not be a new iPhone released this June/July is if they run into serious develoment problems.
well bummer. Was 3.0 not like that? I seem to remember installing that one. Or maybe it was just an early leak of the final.
🙄 I think he was being sarcastic. He purposely chose a date that didn't follow the obvious pattern.
Alan Taylor
macrumors 6502
SWEET DUDE!!!! Us developers are so spoiled getting early access eh? 😀😀😀😀
But, don't bother coming back here and complaining that you can't make calls. Or that the phone crashes every time you get an sms or email.
Or that the apps you love don't work or won't open on the beta OS.
Or that the features you were shown today are not yet implemented in 3rd party apps, and won't be until the new OS is live to the public in the summer.
Because if you are stupid enough to "save your lunch money" and get access to this, you are an idiot.
thanks man. it was a question i knew there was a vague answer that existed. i think ill wait till the new one then
fishkorp
macrumors 68030
It does not mention limitations on the 3GS at all:
iPhone OS 4 Compatibility
iPhone OS 4 will work with iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and the second- and third-generation iPod touch this summer, and with iPad in the fall. Not all features are compatible with all devices. For example, multitasking is available only with iPhone 3GS and the third-generation iPod touch (32GB and 64GB models from late 2009).
http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/
I tried to install the new 4.0 Beta but it gave me so many issues. When I tried to restore or update to the ipsw file it gave the Error 13 and would not allow me to do it.
Then I couldn't restore back to 3.0 on my PC still giving me the same error code. I had to jump on an XP machine to be able to go back to 3.0, so maybe Windows 7 issue?
Then I couldn't restore back to 3.0 on my PC still giving me the same error code. I had to jump on an XP machine to be able to go back to 3.0, so maybe Windows 7 issue?
*LTD*
macrumors G4
It actually won't. Because they'll have a phone that doesn't get dog-slow when it doesn't multitask.
Whenever you get a free OS update from Apple (as an iPhone user), you are essentially getting a new phone, even if there a a feature that won't work on your older model phone. Maybe not hardware-wise, but if the software brings some nice new features that allows you to do more, be more productive, or just plain enjoy your (two year old) phone more, then you're getting added value that breathes new life into your phone. Provided the hardware can handle it, you're essentially getting a better experience with the same hardware.
That's getting a lot of value for next to nothing. That's Apple helping you get the most out of your device over the long-term. Frankly, if a software feature that really would not benefit from lesser hardware or (better put) would be hindered by lesser hardware (say, multitasking), and it's one of the things you don't get to use with your next update that is otherwise feature-packed, you have little cause to complain. If *you* think that *you* can handle slow, perhaps deficient multitasking on your older model phone, that's great. But it's likely not great for everyone else. It's nice to be bleeding edge, but not when it's going to cause the Average Joe a headache or compromise the overall if Apple throws on those features willy-nilly and leaves it up to the consumer to sort it out? Headaches and complaints. Those headaches and complaints are going to show up on Consumer Satisfaction Reports, and it might not be pretty.
This is why Google's best effort to date still can't come close to the attention Apple gives to its hardware-software combination. A lot of bright young minds at Google that have gone a bit trigger happy with throwing everything including the kitchen sink onto a phone and then cutting consumers loose with it. The "you asked for it, so it's there today" approach simply does not cut it.
Power Users (our wonderful tech-heads) need to understand that there have to be some trade-offs, and that ultimately, Apple has to consider the majority and serve the broadest segment of their market.
"Everything OS 4 does, Jailbreaking already did"
More seriously: same things as the iPad...Stupid consumers and fan will buy it when it's sooooooo obvious Apple has lost what they used to be loved for: their pace on innovation.
Multitasking seems like it sucks, I already have Proswitcher (Palm Pre like multitasking) if I wan't a nice multitasking with screenshot of the app and still be able to click on my dock apps, or Kirikae if I want a light multitasking and still be able to access/lunch favorite apps.
Background ? I can change the font, the animation, the size, the rows, the entire effin look of my Iphone.
iAds ? Thank you Apple for trying to clutter us more than everyone ever did on one of our most personnal device: the phone.
The only good things may be Folders & Game Centers, altough I see many restriction coming with it...
So that's it ? That's okay, especially for the iPad...but not only they are gone far behind other opponent (Android, W7...) who are keeping up the pace of new features....and which of these feature would ever bring a camera to... the iPad ?
More seriously: same things as the iPad...Stupid consumers and fan will buy it when it's sooooooo obvious Apple has lost what they used to be loved for: their pace on innovation.
Multitasking seems like it sucks, I already have Proswitcher (Palm Pre like multitasking) if I wan't a nice multitasking with screenshot of the app and still be able to click on my dock apps, or Kirikae if I want a light multitasking and still be able to access/lunch favorite apps.
Background ? I can change the font, the animation, the size, the rows, the entire effin look of my Iphone.
iAds ? Thank you Apple for trying to clutter us more than everyone ever did on one of our most personnal device: the phone.
The only good things may be Folders & Game Centers, altough I see many restriction coming with it...
So that's it ? That's okay, especially for the iPad...but not only they are gone far behind other opponent (Android, W7...) who are keeping up the pace of new features....and which of these feature would ever bring a camera to... the iPad ?
*LTD*
macrumors G4
Except consumers and the industry have already acknowledged them as leaders in innovation. Apple sneezes and the rest of the industry grabs a Kleenex.
Please don't pass off your anecdotal nuggets of armchair wisdom as fact.
I think we all know by now that in one fell swoop Apple just bought themselves another fat chunk of smartphone marketshare. Once they roll out the hardware in June, it'll be iPhone-mania once again. Not that it ever really ended.
You can continue to throw in another feature into Android devices - be it a better camera, a switchblade, or a miniature blender. But Apple will continue to set the bar. And it won't be because they stuff their devices full of flavour-of-the-month features. Apple succeeds and continues to cause wonder and amazement (what no one else can manage) for entirely different reasons. Once you understand what they are you'll have grasped what half the tech community doesn't understand, but what the Average User can appreciate completely.