Not a single one of those thousands of posts explain why Apple is the only company that has ever made these supposed SOX charges.
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Not a single one of those thousands of posts explain why Apple is the only company that has ever made these supposed SOX charges.
this is unlike apple to down the dev site-
you'd think they use some of them data centers they bought a few years back to up the bandwidth
must ... d.. o ... w ..n ..lo..a...d ....... SDK
you'd think they use some of them data centers they bought a few years back to up the bandwidth
must ... d.. o ... w ..n ..lo..a...d ....... SDK
100% agree, 0% disagree. would be nice to get a few demo apps like AIM and their fighter. But yeah, grand slam, touch down, slam dunk, bingo!
I am a bit confused..
Will I be able to start developing today in the next few hours? Or are there some companies which can try the beta and I have to wait until june? And if the beta will be open to everyone, will I be able to try my apps on my iPhone?
Will I be able to start developing today in the next few hours? Or are there some companies which can try the beta and I have to wait until june? And if the beta will be open to everyone, will I be able to try my apps on my iPhone?
re: iPod touch owners.....
I said it before, and it just further proves my original statement. Apple really doesn't feel as though the iPod Touch is *supposed* to be 100% equivalent to the iPhone. It's not even a device I think they had any intention of offering at all, in the first place. Their hand was simply forced, because their business model for these devices has always centered around the idea of "profit sharing" from AT&T subscriptions as part of the revenue stream. Then, they found out people were buying up iPhones and never activating them at all - simply so they could have a cooler video iPod with multi-touch. That screwed with their plans, so they threw together the iPod Touch to satisfy that crowd.
They're making it clear that because the Touch doesn't give them any profit from cellphone subscriptions, you're not going to get some of the cool, new iPhone apps without paying $20 or so a pop, to compensate.
Might piss some folks off - but frankly, I never saw a promise from Apple that things would be any other way. People just *assumed* their Touch would always get everything for free that iPhones got because the two devices LOOK the same.
I said it before, and it just further proves my original statement. Apple really doesn't feel as though the iPod Touch is *supposed* to be 100% equivalent to the iPhone. It's not even a device I think they had any intention of offering at all, in the first place. Their hand was simply forced, because their business model for these devices has always centered around the idea of "profit sharing" from AT&T subscriptions as part of the revenue stream. Then, they found out people were buying up iPhones and never activating them at all - simply so they could have a cooler video iPod with multi-touch. That screwed with their plans, so they threw together the iPod Touch to satisfy that crowd.
They're making it clear that because the Touch doesn't give them any profit from cellphone subscriptions, you're not going to get some of the cool, new iPhone apps without paying $20 or so a pop, to compensate.
Might piss some folks off - but frankly, I never saw a promise from Apple that things would be any other way. People just *assumed* their Touch would always get everything for free that iPhones got because the two devices LOOK the same.
They think we are idiots. If it worked one, they do it again. They are back with the accounting charge crap for the iPod touch owners
Who cares. Just pay a pittance for these lovely goodies and stop expecting free handouts all the time.
I think its worth it and I don't even own an iPhone or iTouch!
I for one am very pleased that we have to wait 3 months.
If you could buy apps straight away then the devs would just rush to get their apps out and selling without really thinking them through and debugging them.
This delay should give us a good selection of well thought out apps come the launch.
If you could buy apps straight away then the devs would just rush to get their apps out and selling without really thinking them through and debugging them.
This delay should give us a good selection of well thought out apps come the launch.
I guess you missed the part when they were "demoing" all of those applications during the "announcement for the SDK".
Gimmie a break. They totally hyped up the apps man, not the SDK. You can't blame someone for getting pissed after watching all of the "applications" being announced only to find out at the end that they do not actually exist yet.
I don't see why the reaction is hard for some people to understand. Seems like human nature to me.
Hey, here's an SDK announcement: "We are releasing an SDK today, here it is!" != "Hey, here is exchange connectivity, chat, blah, blah, blah, oh... here is SDK, the apps may be out in four months"
Not hard.
Gimmie a break. They totally hyped up the apps man, not the SDK. You can't blame someone for getting pissed after watching all of the "applications" being announced only to find out at the end that they do not actually exist yet.
I don't see why the reaction is hard for some people to understand. Seems like human nature to me.
Hey, here's an SDK announcement: "We are releasing an SDK today, here it is!" != "Hey, here is exchange connectivity, chat, blah, blah, blah, oh... here is SDK, the apps may be out in four months"
Not hard.
The real question is...how will the other smartphones compete? Seriously, phones in general, smartphones included, only have a 2-3 lifespan...so once all those Crackberries and Moto Q's and Treo's, etc die or need replacing...why wouldn't an enterprise look at the iPhone, especially if they are able to build and install their own apps!
All in all a solid deal for all, especially the corporate stuff... The only downer (slight) for me is the 4 months before they roll out any applications, but hey these things take time. I would have been happy with a teaser application to give me a warm and fuzzy, but what the hey, I may even start writing apps!
Possibly because you can already build and install your own apps on Symbian OS phones and have been able to for years? Don't get me wrong - this is hot stuff but there are some pretty heavy competitors out there.
Exactly!! I used the term paradigm shift in another thread, and I stand by that. They've not just one industry. There's going to be a lot of sleepless people around the world. Finland, Sweden, Japan, US.... etc.
They really hit this one out of the park. I can't think of a single wrong thing here, and that's really rare.
You can download it from the Apple.com web site for free. Except right now except that about a bazillion people are doing just that and the server is overloaded. Wait a few hours. But it is available to anyone at zero cost
They call it a "beta" but he also said it is the same exact software that Apple uses internally. So it has been it use for some time now and is likely very stable.
I expect it for a few reasons:
The precedent in the software industry is that you don't charge for minor updates. They want to charge for Mail, Notes, etc., fine. But the charge for lyrics and webclips was ridiculous. They can try to change the precedent, but I'm not going to buy into it.
The app store by itself doesn't do anything for me. They want to charge me money so I can spend more money? Ha.
What other company adds new features after product launch?
TiVo/DVRs, but they all charge monthly subscriptions.
RIM pushes new functionality to BlackBerrys, but they also charge a monthly subscription (bundled into the cost of the data plan).
Zune, maybe. They could simply account for their sales in the same way that Apple does for the iPhone/AppleTV (allowing them to do free updates).
http://www.macworld.com/article/131991/2008/02/ipodtouch.html
Are you purposefully being ignorant to make a point, or did you miss the part where Steve Jobs said that developers could release free applications (free for the developer, free for the customer)?
so you didn't pay for leopard, you didn't pay for vista? i'm sure apple's legal team would like a word with you . . .
what other phone offers major software updates? i could be wrong, but to my knowledge, apple is the only company that has offered major updates to hand held devices . . . no, quick check, palm does . . . oh and they charge as well.
Yeah that's what I was wondering about for the whole time now. They kind of say something else every time the topic came up...
What I want is: Build App with SDK -> make a iPhone binary out of it with the SDK -> install it from your Mac/(Win) onto your iPhone AND distribute it over the AppStore (with Gatekeeper and 99$)
I think both options should be possible. So that big commercial apps can reach everyone easely and sell and also to be ablo to run those strange apps only a handful of people care about...
But all in all I think the SDK is just GREAT! I actually thought Apple would be more restricting or evil but they really did a great job
Now the iPhone is rescued. Only 3G and a better iSight and it really is THE mobile phone and internet thingie in your pocket ah and not to mention all the other media stuff...I think that kills all the SIM unlocking apps :/Apple said:
BTW.
I know the iPhoners pay every month. But so do you with every other mobile phone. I don't see the logic to then charge the iTouchers extra.
About the 3rd party app fee for iTouchers one could argue but the last app sale was TEH SUCK everyone who bought an iTouch was so screwed and everyone else who buys it now just gets the stuff for free :/
Has anyone managed to download the SDK yet? Any chance of mirroring it? I can't get a single page to load