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I think this is correct.

Today, I installed iLife 11. When I ran it and updated my photos, i had about a half dozen events that did not have any pictures or just a few of them. The "not visible" pictures in these troubled events showed up as black boxes and appeared to be "missing".

I re-imported the missing pictures (and all of the pictures in the original event) from these events from my SuperDuper backup to iPhoto 9. iPhoto asked me if I wanted to import the "duplicates". I did this and now I had a new event for this import. I did this for all the troubled events. Then I deleted the blank or mostly blank events. These deleted black boxes show up as visible jpegs in the trash.

So yes, I believe the links are missing, not the originals.
For a number of users, the originals themselves were deleted from the iPhoto library package. It was not just a case of the database being corrupted and the files remaining intact.

I have only been a mac user for about 3 years, one of the first things I was taught was to repair permissions before an update and also after to help prevent any issues. That being said, apparently the iPhoto permissions are not effected by something like Disk Utility or Onyx. Why else would they build into iPhoto a way of repairing permission issues if it was not necessary at some point in time? In saying that I have no idea what actually causes them to get messed up in the first place?
Repairing permissions is almost never necessary, gives you a false sense of security, and does not need to be done as a matter of course. (The "repair permissions" tool in Disk Utility is rather unfortunately named, as it has absolutely no effect on user data.)

Permission errors typically only occur due to the user explicitly setting them to something they shouldn't (e.g. being foolish enough to use some unfamiliar terminal command they read on a website like Mac OS X Hints) or a software bug that sets them incorrectly. In any case, the iPhoto library upgrade process should have been robust enough to handle them, and Apple alone should be blamed for the data loss that many people ran into. It's ludicrous to blame the user for data loss in this instance.
 
As best I can tell you need to

0. BACKUP
1. Install iLife '11
2. Install iPhoto 9.0.1
3. Launch iPhoto '11 to let it upgrade your library

in that order.

arn

Small ammendent.
 
Arn there is a fine line between rubbish articles and sensationalist ones. Ok we get it you have to make a living but don't be desperate about it to the detriment of apple. "To address data loss issues" is a rubbish claim, there are no data loss issues, there is a rare bug here, and it's been corrected. So save us the sensationalism and report this as it should be reported. You are taking advantage of common folk here, and scaring them fearing they might lose their data. In all these forums here with thousands of people no one really lost their data irretrievably, so what is this rubbish all about then other than getting people worked up and driving hits here? Get it together cause you are hurting the community, and the community doesn't like you for doing that. Anyone playing games on apple's back is going to get it hard at some point, and you are not going to like it when it happens. You are riding the coattails of apple here, so be a good boy and dont't try to bite the hand that feeds you.

This just might be the stupidest post I've ever seen on macrumors.

There is just so many things wrong with what you wrote. Essentially, to be a writer of a company (and an outside source, at that), it is ESPECIALLY important they remain objective and be able, and certainly do, call out that company when they screw up. It's called honesty. It's called journalism. And it's called not being bought.
 
It only addresses the data loss bug, so don't get your hopes up that it fixes all the others issues with iPhoto '11.

The 9.1 update can't come soon enough.

You can say that again.

iPhoto definitely needs rehab, as it is exhibiting many
warning signs of substance abuse:
  • deteriorated motor skills,
  • forgetfulness,
  • places heavy burden on the 'system',
  • hesitation and slow thought processes.
 
Repairing permissions is almost never necessary, gives you a false sense of security, and does not need to be done as a matter of course. (The "repair permissions" tool in Disk Utility is rather unfortunately named, as it has absolutely no effect on user data.)

Permission errors typically only occur due to the user explicitly setting them to something they shouldn't (e.g. being foolish enough to use some unfamiliar terminal command they read on a website like Mac OS X Hints) or a software bug that sets them incorrectly. In any case, the iPhoto library upgrade process should have been robust enough to handle them, and Apple alone should be blamed for the data loss that many people ran into. It's ludicrous to blame the user for data loss in this instance.

Yes, this is exactly right. Permissions don't just spontaneously go bad, and should never need to be "repaired" except in the case of very buggy software or deliberate user intervention. Apple's "repair permissions" options in multiple cases (Disk Utility, iPhoto) are band-aids hiding existing underlying bugs in their software (and to be fair, in some cases, third-party software that does stuff it shouldn't).

This whole fiasco has highlighted to me just how incompetent Apple's iPhoto team is. It's obvious that they have zero understanding of unix permissions, which is quite alarming, given that OS X is unix. It's also perplexing, as I always had the strong impression that Apple's hiring standards were some of the most strict in the business. I consider myself a very competent software developer, but always assumed I'd never make it past their stringent screening process if I applied. But this is really basic stuff they're screwing up.

What's scary is what happens if you tell iPhoto to "Examine and repair iPhoto Library permissions" on startup (hold Cmd-Opt when it's starting). This goes through and sets every file in the iPhoto Library to be world-writable, meaning any other user on your computer (if you share it with others in the household) can modify or delete anything in your library. :eek: That should never, ever be necessary! At most, each file needs to be readable and writable by the owner (you) and nobody else. It shouldn't ever matter whether other users can access the files at all; and if they really need access for some reason, it should be read-only.

This almost suggests to me that the iPhoto team might be left over from the pre-OS X days and doesn't really understand the concept of a multi-user system. Truly frightening.
 
iPhoto '11 Questions.....

I have a few questions....

#1 - What if I am using iPhoto '08 (version 7.1.5)? Can I update to iPhoto 11 without having iPhoto '09??? I haven't purchased any other versions of iPhoto since 2008 so what do I do?

#2 - Do I install iPhoto '11 first and then download and install the new update that was release tonight?

#3 - Do I repair permissions after or before I download everything?
 
Arn there is a fine line between rubbish articles and sensationalist ones. Ok we get it you have to make a living but don't be desperate about it to the detriment of apple. "To address data loss issues" is a rubbish claim, there are no data loss issues, there is a rare bug here, and it's been corrected. So save us the sensationalism and report this as it should be reported. You are taking advantage of common folk here, and scaring them fearing they might lose their data. In all these forums here with thousands of people no one really lost their data irretrievably, so what is this rubbish all about then other than getting people worked up and driving hits here? Get it together cause you are hurting the community, and the community doesn't like you for doing that. Anyone playing games on apple's back is going to get it hard at some point, and you are not going to like it when it happens. You are riding the coattails of apple here, so be a good boy and dont't try to bite the hand that feeds you.

:confused:

WOW! An Apple Apologist if ever I saw one. :rolleyes:

Flaming the owner of the site as well. Nice touch, n00b.
 
Clean up iPhoto before upgrading.

... Holding option+command when launching iPhoto brings up an option to repair permissions.

I did that, it took quite a while (20 or 30 minutes despite the original "about an hour" message). So in theory I'm ready to upgrade relatively safely.

But I'll still either install the 9.0.1 patch or wait for 9.0.1 to reach retail before launching iPhoto. No big hurry.
 
I did that, it took quite a while (20 or 30 minutes despite the original "about an hour" message). So in theory I'm ready to upgrade relatively safely.

But I'll still either install the 9.0.1 patch or wait for 9.0.1 to reach retail before launching iPhoto. No big hurry.

I did that and rebuilt the thumbnails. Did not work. Backup and go with Arns instructions.
 
Yes, this is exactly right. Permissions don't just spontaneously go bad, and should never need to be "repaired" except in the case of very buggy software or deliberate user intervention. Apple's "repair permissions" options in multiple cases (Disk Utility, iPhoto) are band-aids hiding existing underlying bugs in their software (and to be fair, in some cases, third-party software that does stuff it shouldn't).

This whole fiasco has highlighted to me just how incompetent Apple's iPhoto team is. It's obvious that they have zero understanding of unix permissions, which is quite alarming, given that OS X is unix. It's also perplexing, as I always had the strong impression that Apple's hiring standards were some of the most strict in the business. I consider myself a very competent software developer, but always assumed I'd never make it past their stringent screening process if I applied. But this is really basic stuff they're screwing up.

What's scary is what happens if you tell iPhoto to "Examine and repair iPhoto Library permissions" on startup (hold Cmd-Opt when it's starting). This goes through and sets every file in the iPhoto Library to be world-writable, meaning any other user on your computer (if you share it with others in the household) can modify or delete anything in your library. :eek: That should never, ever be necessary! At most, each file needs to be readable and writable by the owner (you) and nobody else. It shouldn't ever matter whether other users can access the files at all; and if they really need access for some reason, it should be read-only.

This almost suggests to me that the iPhoto team might be left over from the pre-OS X days and doesn't really understand the concept of a multi-user system. Truly frightening.
I think that's massively overstating it. It's not clear this was a permissions issue anyway — it's just what someone on Mac OS X Hints claims.

It's a horrific bug, but it doesn't mean the iPhoto team are idiots. It does mean, though, that they didn't properly handle some edge-case in the upgrade code, and didn't properly test it.
 
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I'm one of the extremely rare cases of true data loss...an I'm not happy at all.

This update comes 1 week too late for hundreds of work photos I have.

Time capsule you ask? Yep. I have one. Little did I realize that between my wife's and my back ups, the drive is full and deleting all past backup an only saving 1 for each of us. That on I have is one of the already updated, lost/corrupted or whatever iPhoto library in question. I soooo rarely go into time capsule, I do not know how many past backups I have. Believe me, I was shocked when I went in to grab old version and saw only one backup. Last time I looked, there were at least 30.

:insert loud expletive starting with F here:

I will need to be better at upgrading, checkin my back up more religiously, basically become as vigilant as a PC user must be. The loss is unacceptable to me' and the clients whose raw imagery I've now lost in my zeal to update To Apple's newest and "bestest"

I'm frustrated with myself for lack of vigilance and for allowing myself to trust my favorite tools made by my favorite tool maker.

Sooo, where the heck are the tips for actually rescuing/retrieving data? I've tried all option/command restore tips, erasing permissions etc...still enjoy a grey screen with a white spinning hash marked circle.

(sorry for typos, banged out on my iPhone before bed)
 
What do you do if already had issue? I have a back up should I just revert back to iphoto 09 n then use these steps?

How do you revert to oldsr applications in TM? Do I loose everything else I have downloaded since the back up?
 
The guy had a point about MR and others sensationalizing the issue to move more ad impressions, but his threats were equally inappropriate, and toothless.

I doubt that Cupertino will be happy with that employee about writing such silliness.
 
"You are installing brand new software. In extremely rare cases, this could flick the wrong switch in your precious computer and cause data loss. BACKUP you moron. "

Now that should be a pop up window BEFORE anything can be installed...
 
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That's great that they've fixed the installation bug which was a horrible mess for apple, but where is the fix for iphoto bring just 'crap'?

It's such a backwards step that any 'improvements' seem pointless...
 
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1. I am usually accused of being pro apple

2. Apple calls it a "data loss" issue albeit rare.

You have nerves of steel. This is how a site admin should behave.

Hats off to you.
 
aperture library

Very strange "bug?" i found after upgrading iPhoto.

I added a project in Aperture (and photos) , and I changed a project.

When I open the new iPhoto and i choose "show aperture library", it doens't show the changes. It only shows the library as it was before the upgrade to the new iPhoto....
 
seriously. Don't get me wrong, Data loss sucks but where are all the Time Capsules and Time Machine backups people.

Never had much luck with time machine... On my old 07 iMac - it lagged the system out from the I/O.

On my new Mac Pro (sold state hard drive) it causes a big slowdown on read/write to any of my 4 hard drives (well...3 virtual drives as one is on RAID1).

On my MBP it does the same...very laggy and reduces performance even when only doing a minor sync.

At the moment I rely on RAID1 on my drives, and use a Netgear Stora (network drive) to copy important files over to.

Either way the Apple-created backup options suck (for me -- they probably work fine for most however).
 
This doesn't seem very elegant at all to me. How is an average user who goes out to buy their new iLife supposed to know about this critical update before they install and launch it? I foresee most users only discovering this update AFTER the damage has already been done. Maybe they need to put a sticker on the box or something :confused:
 
I wonder how "rare" this bug actually is. For my part, I had no trouble with my upgrade. Everything seems to be working fine and iPhoto is just as speedy as the old version, maybe a bit more speedy. So I wonder what it is about a user's system that would trigger the problems in iPhoto.
 
Since when does Microsoft make iPhoto software, oh wait I got confused, I didn't realise Apple made ****** software ;) this is one of worst moments, data loss is the worst issue that could occur, I will think twice, backup my data and spend a while on MacRumors before installing OSX Lion :D

I suspect that Lion will immediately convert every mac into an idiot-proof idevice that can only access approved apps through their app store.

It goes hand in hand with their other crackpot notion to remove optical drives from macs, so that every mac is merely an overpriced tablet.
The days of catering to serious users are long gone.

They no longer compete with companies like Dell or HP. Their main focus of competition is now with companies like Nokia.

Given the way things are headed, I think that my current macs and snow leopard will be the last upgrades that I ever buy from apple.
It's a shame, since they used to be serious contenders.
 
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