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I checked out Ping but once in I didn't know what to do and messed around with it a little. I haven't purchased any music from iTunes so there was nothing to do, so I disabled iTunes store to fully get rid of Ping.

Ping seemed very useless for me.
 
While this was one of my biggest complains about Ping (you can't like your own music), it also annoys me to have giant Ping buttons all over iTunes.

Honestly, this Ping crap is now all over the place. No one thought about the possibility that I don't want share everything in my life with rest of the internet? What about just listening the music you like without that Ping being all over the place?
 
I don't get why you guys want the iTunes arrows back in the music library.
It's more advertising!!!!! :eek:

Oh but you're so wrong. By simply applying an <older hack from 2004>, we can transform those "store" arrows into very useful tools for navigating around our own library. I'd hate to be without them:

defaults write com.apple.iTunes invertStoreLinks -bool YES

[makes normal clicks traverse inside our own library... use option-click to go to the store]
 
Just restored the damn icon... :mad:

I'll make a script to do it easier for the next updates, I doubt they'll give up on the boring new one.

I know, they're lame!
So annoying, why do we have to do they're advertising...

I've disabled these buttons & ping sidebar through using this:

Quit iTunes and open Terminal. Paste the following line and hit Enter:
defaults write com.apple.iTunes hide-ping-dropdown 1

Success! The Ping dropdown menu is gone!!!

If you want it back, open Terminal again, paste the following line and hit Enter:
defaults write com.apple.iTunes hide-ping-dropdown 0

Simple :)
Hope this helps anyone who has also found this a pain in the £@%!

Thanks a lot... ping is so lame...
 
Seriously, I'm really starting to hate this PING CRAP! Every time you click a song you see that Ping drop down menu box... The person who come up with this "one your face, push it down your throat concept" can go and ping themselves. Itunes has now become my least favorite Apple program.
 
Sorry Ping

I wanted to like it but with the last update I ended up turning it off. There is not enough value for me. I think Ping should be an add-on option - like another application if you want it. It also diffuses the iTunes name because if I say I use Ping, I am really using iTunes, but since I am talking about Ping it takes away from the value of the iTunes brand.

I believe this whole idea was rushed. All we need is a way to allow the ratings we already have in iTunes to be available to others if we want. The Like button doesn't even make sense. The ratings are way better. I could share the songs I like with my ratings to groups of people who give a damn about my music taste. They could share theirs and maybe I would find some cool songs.

The whole "what's the band doing" is for facebook or a blog. Instead I would reather just have some of my artists in my "favorites" so I could easily checkup on them. I'm going to follow artists I already own music from so I don't need to find the artist and then follow. I can just go into my own collection and do it there.
 
Ping isnt there for me. Im signed into ping and can access it through the itunes store, but I see no difference. I have the genius sidebar... I downloaded it, and software update tells me that I have up to date software... Why am I, the one person who wants the update, not having it work for me?

~ SG
 
iTunes streaming fixed??

Did this update fix iTunes server streaming from 3rd party NAS devices?
I set one up for my sister & brother-in-law (Synology DS-110j), and told them not to upgrade to iTunes 10 until the issue has been resolved.
 
I'll be sticking with iTunes 9 until Apple decides to allow me to hide Ping completely. I hate Ping and the entire idea of Apple integrating something into their software that has no purpose other than increasing the sales of iTunes content. :mad:

I'm not sure it even does that. Genius recommendations were all about increasing the sales but Ping seems to be all about Apple's child like envy over Facebook. Who needs all this social networking crap?
 
Yeah, I'd love to just ignore it, but it's all over iTunes now. Problem not solved, smart ass.

Really? Its all over? Where else is it besides that little icon, the sidebar which you can hide, and in the right click?

I don't see anything jumping off the screen forcing me to live in a Ping world.
 
Really? Its all over? Where else is it besides that little icon, the sidebar which you can hide, and in the right click?

I don't see anything jumping off the screen forcing me to live in a Ping world.

Lets see... Its on the left side bar, down next to now almost useless genius button and next to every single song you click on your iTunes library. Question, is there any way to have if appear more often then it already does? Hopefully not...
 
I just got it to download. I personally like the Ping additions.

However

WTF happened to my beloved grid view? I liked the new view they added into iTunes 10, and I still loved my grid view. And now they've turned the two into a weird mashup that just isnt right. How can I fix this? I use grid view to avoid the other views, not to make it harder to navigate.

~ SG

EDIT: Never mind that - iTunes was freaking out on me and nothing was displaying right. I'm enjoying this update now - well, it's kinda past that with all the trouble downloading, but whatever.
 
Do you use Windows? Anytime I hear that software is "bloated" it comes from a Windows user. iTunes is very fast on my computer and I have over 25 GB of media.

I have a 2.5 GHz C2D MBP running 10.6.4. My iTunes library is just a hair under 425 GB, and iTunes gets slower and more bloated with every release. The latest version is painfully slow, even with basically every extraneous feature (home sharing, equaliser, sound check, the Store , etc.) disabled and no other applications running.

How painfully slow? Well, let's have an example...here's what I have to do if I want to, say, change a batch of tags (even if iTunes isn't importing or playing anything at the time):

1) Click the first track.
2) Wait 5-10 seconds for iTunes to register the click.

Optional:
3) Scroll down using the scroll wheel
4) Wait 10-20 seconds for iTunes to register the scroll
5) Swear because I scrolled too far, then repeat steps 3-4 to scroll back up


6) Shift-click the last of the tracks I'm editing
7) Wait 5-10 seconds for iTunes to register the click
8) Hit Command-I to open the track info dialogue box
9) Wait 10-20 seconds
10) Type in the new tag info (for some reason, this process is remarkably speedy)
11) Hit enter to accept the changes
12) Wait 5-10 seconds PER TRACK for iTunes to make the changes. Double or triple this time if the changes were made from the main Library:Music view rather than while viewing a playlist. Add even MORE time if the changes involved album art.

You may notice a pattern in the above list. This delay between command issuance and interface response is nearly universal throughout the application. Even basic functions like "play", "pause", and "next track" frequently involve a 15-30 second wait between the issuing of the command and the actual execution of the command. Clicking a column header to re-sort the track list results in a delay. Hitting Enter while a track is selected (to change the name) results in a delay, which usually results in me hitting Enter a second time because I don't think the first one took, which results in the name being editable for a quarter of a second as both Enters are finally executed in rapid-fire, prompting me to hit Enter again, etc...

And this is just for simple tag editing and playback control, with nothing else going on. God help me if I'm running a web browser at the same time and/or trying to do a task that requires lots of CPU time, in which case you can double or triple the wait time for each task listed above. Importing a CD, for example, involves 30-second (at least) freezes at the end of each track, presumably while iTunes updates the Library file. This is frequently longer than the actual conversion process took for a given track, and of course it involves all other tasks being delayed even further as iTunes throws up an empty alert box over the main window as each track is added.

I've come to believe that iTunes just isn't very good at handling large libraries. iTunes 9 wasn't much faster, but 10 made things noticeably and immediately worse. (7 was the best of recent versions in my memory.) It would be a tough sell to convince me that it has nothing to do with the new "features" that have been added.
 
Argh Gimpy Artwork

Really depressed the scalable artwork was not fixed i foolishly checked if the artwork column was back, heartbreaking to see those diddy postage stamps where my hi res scanned vinyl covers once lived. After all my feedback and long threads on apple discussions, the rest is ok.I always disable the store which fixes ping etc.
 
Really depressed the scalable artwork was not fixed i foolishly checked if the artwork column was back, heartbreaking to see those diddy postage stamps where my hi res scanned vinyl covers once lived. After all my feedback and long threads on apple discussions, the rest is ok.I always disable the store which fixes ping etc.

Considering Steve replied in an email to a forum member who asked where the colour has gone from iTunes that it is in the album artwork, you would think they would let you have it as big as you want. (like they used to)
 
I have a 2.5 GHz C2D MBP running 10.6.4. My iTunes library is just a hair under 425 GB, and iTunes gets slower and more bloated with every release. The latest version is painfully slow, even with basically every extraneous feature (home sharing, equaliser, sound check, the Store , etc.) disabled and no other applications running.

How painfully slow? Well, let's have an example...here's what I have to do if I want to, say, change a batch of tags (even if iTunes isn't importing or playing anything at the time):

1) Click the first track.
2) Wait 5-10 seconds for iTunes to register the click.

Optional:
3) Scroll down using the scroll wheel
4) Wait 10-20 seconds for iTunes to register the scroll
5) Swear because I scrolled too far, then repeat steps 3-4 to scroll back up


6) Shift-click the last of the tracks I'm editing
7) Wait 5-10 seconds for iTunes to register the click
8) Hit Command-I to open the track info dialogue box
9) Wait 10-20 seconds
10) Type in the new tag info (for some reason, this process is remarkably speedy)
11) Hit enter to accept the changes
12) Wait 5-10 seconds PER TRACK for iTunes to make the changes. Double or triple this time if the changes were made from the main Library:Music view rather than while viewing a playlist. Add even MORE time if the changes involved album art.

You may notice a pattern in the above list. This delay between command issuance and interface response is nearly universal throughout the application. Even basic functions like "play", "pause", and "next track" frequently involve a 15-30 second wait between the issuing of the command and the actual execution of the command. Clicking a column header to re-sort the track list results in a delay. Hitting Enter while a track is selected (to change the name) results in a delay, which usually results in me hitting Enter a second time because I don't think the first one took, which results in the name being editable for a quarter of a second as both Enters are finally executed in rapid-fire, prompting me to hit Enter again, etc...

And this is just for simple tag editing and playback control, with nothing else going on. God help me if I'm running a web browser at the same time and/or trying to do a task that requires lots of CPU time, in which case you can double or triple the wait time for each task listed above. Importing a CD, for example, involves 30-second (at least) freezes at the end of each track, presumably while iTunes updates the Library file. This is frequently longer than the actual conversion process took for a given track, and of course it involves all other tasks being delayed even further as iTunes throws up an empty alert box over the main window as each track is added.

I've come to believe that iTunes just isn't very good at handling large libraries. iTunes 9 wasn't much faster, but 10 made things noticeably and immediately worse. (7 was the best of recent versions in my memory.) It would be a tough sell to convince me that it has nothing to do with the new "features" that have been added.

I have just under 500 gigs of music - 27" iMac, i7 - iTunes absolutely flies. Incredible fast load and responsive. Maybe check for some corrupt tracks kicking around causing issue?
 
Lets see... Its on the left side bar, down next to now almost useless genius button and next to every single song you click on your iTunes library. Question, is there any way to have if appear more often then it already does? Hopefully not...

The word ping appears on the side bar, and on the currently playing/selected track. The icon next to the genius button bottom right doesn't have any mention of ping on/near it. I mean come on "it's next to every single song you select" is an inflammatory way of stating "it appears next to a track when selected".

So you're talking 2 or 3 times on the screen - hardly drowning is it? Do get some perspective.

I really don't understand all this hate for iTunes, it is what it is. Unless you want the massive uproar from PPC users that iTunes is now useless to them because it's gone cocoa/64bit (why can't I use iTunes on my five year old computer!!!!) it's going to be a while longer before you see a significant architecture upgrade.

And i hear a lot of people saying "if only there was a viable alternative" - I think that's the point - iTunes does a LOT - if it was split into component applications, that would simply be bloat. I don't want one application for music, one to play movies, one for books, one to sync my phone, one to sync my ipad and so on... I want it all in one place because it's all media, it belongs together.

Music, Movies & TV Shows, Podcasts, Books, iPod management and sync, iPhone management and sync, iPad management and sync. There's a lot to manage and I've yet to see ANYONE come up with an alternative all in one approach or interface alternative.

It's fine for what it does, it's a simple interface, keeps everything organised and does a good job of managing all the media on your mac.

I think a few users here need a little perspective. "The icons are grey - it's the end of the world!". No. It's not. "The icon is hideous". So change it, it's just an icon and no less tacky than the one that came before it.
 
Where Did The "Burn CD" Button go?

This is a terrible update. ...... And seriously, add a beepin' burn CD button at the bottom right for Pete's sake! Instead they have Ping buttons :confused:....

+1 on the Burn CD button - the future is not quite here yet, Steve - some people still use the shiny discs...
 
Just restored the damn icon... :mad:

I'll make a script to do it easier for the next updates, I doubt they'll give up on the boring new one.

Replace the icon using get info and pasting over the icon top left in the info window rather than doing anything inside the package content directory. It stays in place through all upgrades. Simples.
 
I heard a lot of people wanting something like ping over the years.

That's nice. I'm sure you've also heard a lot of people NOT want something like Ping. This is the part where you learn (and Apple apparently fail to learn) that people are individuals, not some "borg iTunes collective" of people who all want the same thing the same way.

Now that you have it you don't want it?

Well no. Now that I have something I never wanted, I still don't want it. How shocking.

Also no one is forcing you to use it.

I guess not, but Apple sure are trying their very best.

As far as Ping, nothing wrong with trying something new, but this forum doesn't give Apple a chance to try anything new.

Maybe it isn't that "this forum" doesn't want Apple to try something new but rather that "this forum" doesn't give Apple the chance to continue trying to beat a dead horse? Good ideas gain traction and bad ones do not. Why is that a bad thing?

The best thing I can say about Ping is that it's currently very half-baked. I'm surprised that Apple have released something that seems so obviously 'unfinished' as much as anything else.

My problem is this is something free that was added and some people here have way too much nerve to complain about something free. Lucky for Apple MR isn't the main source of their customers.

No it isn't "for free". You might not have paid money directly for iTunes, but if you're an iPhone or iPad user then you've arguably paid for iTunes. If you're a Mac OSX user then you've definitely paid for iTunes as its part of the OS. And Apple have chosen to spend resources on ping instead of fixing peoples gripes. I think people are allowed to be annoyed at that.

Oh, so a company that's introducing a new feature in their existing product should have a button that says "Remove All Traces Of this New Feature We Are Offering To Our Customers"? Get real, that's not gonna happen and for a company to do that, it would show they have zero faith what they are introducing to the public.

As someone else already mentioned, it would show respect to their customers. If Apple want me to use Ping, they need to show me why it's useful to me, not ram it down my throat whether I like it and want it, or not. All that does is antagonise potential customers of the service.

What's more realistic is if the customer doesn't like our new feature then they shouldn't use it, period. All this extra whining about being able to still see the name Ping on the sidebar is just nonsense.

I'm already not using it, period. As for "whining": If it was just a name or an icon somewhere I'd agree with you, but this is substantial changes to the UI that don't go away when you turn Ping off.
 
The word ping appears on the side bar, and on the currently playing/selected track. The icon next to the genius button bottom right doesn't have any mention of ping on/near it. I mean come on "it's next to every single song you select" is an inflammatory way of stating "it appears next to a track when selected".

So you're talking 2 or 3 times on the screen - hardly drowning is it? Do get some perspective.

Perspective? Are you serious? Ping is everywhere on iTunes now. Click a song and its there. What other additional features are you offered when you click any song? Why are you seeing the Ping crap if you haven't enabled it... Do I really need to say more...
 
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