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Apple Releases iTunes 10.0.1 With Ping Sidebar and Bug Fixes

KnightWRX said:
That's why I'd like nothing more than an option called "Remove all traces of Ping" which I can check.

I'm not asking for them to not provide their social mumbo jumbo, but to shove it in the face of users who don't want it and to not provide an option to remove it is dead wrong no matter how you look at it. There is nothing egoistical about wanting an option to remove a service I have no intention of using, no matter how hard you try to make it sound that way.

As for the colors, you really believe a gray bitmap file is somehow faster than a colored one ? Seriously, 0xaaaaaa is faster than 0xaaee55 ?
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You're not serious with that part of your post I highlighted are you? Oh, so a company that's introducing a new feature in their existing product should have a button that says "Remove All Traces Of this New Feature We Are Offering To Our Customers"? Get real, that's not gonna happen and for a company to do that, it would show they have zero faith what they are introducing to the public.
What's more realistic is if the customer doesn't like our new feature then they shouldn't use it, period. All this extra whining about being able to still see the name Ping on the sidebar is just nonsense.

Instead of you continually asking me over and over why I think the colors were slowing down iTunes, why don't answer my question that I asked you earlier which was why do you think Apple removed the colors? If you have no theory to it then please don't shoot down my theories like I'm some dumbass. :rolleyes:
 
Hi, I'd like to add to the chorus of complaints: I can't add links to things. I'd like to add links and pictures and stuff. You know, links to articles and videos. Otherwise, this ping thing is going to die.
 
Is there any way to get rid of the arrows that have just appeared when you select a playlist? It's for sharing a playlist / iMix which I never do, I've already removed the Ping rubbish.
 

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RoboCop001 said:
Can anyone recommend a good program or website that shows you music you may like based on what you have?
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Last.fm, their clients are not perfect but they have a huge database of music and people submitting played music similar to Genius.
 
HLdan said:
You're not serious with that part of your post I highlighted are you? Oh, so a company that's introducing a new feature in their existing product should have a button that says "Remove All Traces Of this New Feature We Are Offering To Our Customers"? Get real, that's not gonna happen and for a company to do that, it would show they have zero faith what they are introducing to the public.
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No, it would show respect to users who do not want to use privacy invading features like social networks, which have nothing at all to do with the software in question.

I am serious, as serious as your "color affects performance" comment. This is not like they added some obscure sub option in a menu which I simply can ignore. This is putting up their privacy invading social networking all over the software and asking me to enable it every chance they get.

It has made iTunes frankly annoying to use to people who do not want to be involved with Ping. It makes it hard to simple "ignore" it.
 
KnightWRX said:
No, it would show respect to users who do not want to use privacy invading features like social networks, which have nothing at all to do with the software in question.

I am serious, as serious as your "color affects performance" comment. This is not like they added some obscure sub option in a menu which I simply can ignore. This is putting up their privacy invading social networking all over the software and asking me to enable it every chance they get.

It has made iTunes frankly annoying to use to people who do not want to be involved with Ping. It makes it hard to simple "ignore" it.
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Once again you keep on bringing up my color comment, yet you continue to ignore my question which shows me that you haven't a clue as to any theory on why Apple removed the colors. Don't slam me about something when you have no feedback about the situation yourself.

I can tell first hand that you know nothing, absolutely nothing about sales, nor have you ever been in sales successfully. If you knew anything about sales you'd know that not every customer is instantly closable and it's important to stay in the customer's face until either they bite or go away. Apple giving you the option to remove all traces of Ping would be completely stupid on their part as a company and they would need to go back and learn Sales 101.

I just love how you seem to know what EVERYBODY wants. Outside of what you read on the web you have no idea if Ping has made iTunes annoying to people who don't want to use Ping. I said it earlier, (but maybe you missed it along with my question towards you about about the colors :rolleyes:) I didn't care for Ping when I signed up for it, so I just turned it off. It hasn't affected my iTunes use, nor has it put me off from wanting use iTunes. That seems to be more of your problem.

Why don't you just stop using iTunes altogether, then your problem is solved.;)
 
manu chao said:
Last.fm, their clients are not perfect but they have a huge database of music and people submitting played music similar to Genius.
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Ah yes, I signed up for that last year but I stopped using after a while. Mainly because I'm in Canada and would now have to pay for the radio feature.

I'm going to give it another try, especially if it can suggest music to me.
Hopefully it can vary a little bit from the Genius Recommendations so that I get more variety of suggestions!
 
HLdan said:
Once again you keep on bringing up my color comment, yet you continue to ignore my question which shows me that you haven't a clue as to any theory on why Apple removed the colors. Don't slam me about something when you have no feedback about the situation yourself.
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He could slam you because your reasoning was so preposterous. As for the reason? It was most likely an attempt to emphasize content. A mistake, IMO, because now icons are not as easy to identify and all look the same. Luckily, it's an easy fix with iTunes 109.

I am not a fan of Ping and have done all I can to limit its visibility, but I am not going to gripe over the few icons and menu items that remain (although I have sent Apple feedback). A social network relies on people using it to be useful, so it is understandable Apple wanted to make it more visible.
 
HLdan said:
Once again you keep on bringing up my color comment, yet you continue to ignore my question which shows me that you haven't a clue as to any theory on why Apple removed the colors.
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It seems to me that there wasn't a clue your explanation either, so everyone is still at square one on that issue as far as I can tell.

I can tell first hand that you know nothing, absolutely nothing about sales, nor have you ever been in sales successfully. If you knew anything about sales you'd know that not every customer is instantly closable and it's important to stay in the customer's face until either they bite or go away. Apple giving you the option to remove all traces of Ping would be completely stupid on their part as a company and they would need to go back and learn Sales 101.
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I'm not totally sure about this though, is staying in someone's face after they decided "no" is a good way to make a sale? Because that's what it really is as far as I can tell. Scrubbing all evidence of Ping isn't the real point though, keeping it in the preferences is fine, but there's not much reason to keep it in the side column for people that decide they don't want to use it.
 
HLdan said:
Once again you keep on bringing up my color comment, yet you continue to ignore my question which shows me that you haven't a clue as to any theory on why Apple removed the colors. Don't slam me about something when you have no feedback about the situation yourself.
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I am slamming you about something that made absolutely no sense on a technical basis, while being a technical argument. Color of a bitmap does not affect performance, and to suggest so shows a great lack of technical aptitude.

And to answer your question : Only Apple knows why they removed the colors. No one but Apple staff sat on that meeting, and I doubt Apple staff will ever explain why.

HLdan said:
I can tell first hand that you know nothing, absolutely nothing about sales, nor have you ever been in sales successfully. If you knew anything about sales you'd know that not every customer is instantly closable and it's important to stay in the customer's face until either they bite or go away. Apple giving you the option to remove all traces of Ping would be completely stupid on their part as a company and they would need to go back and learn Sales 101.
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And I think being "in your face" shows a great lack of respect and as caused me to walk out of stores. I think you should check out big surfaces nowadays or even car dealers. A lot have moved from pressure selling to a more casual attitude of letting the customer feel at home.

HLdan said:
I just love how you seem to know what EVERYBODY wants.
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I have never said nor pretended that. Giving users the option of seeing or not seeing Ping pleases everyone. Those who want it, have it, those who don't, well don't.

I don't see how an option to remove something causes problems. Oh right, options are confusing and should be banned in favor of letting Apple dictate our entire experience right ? :rolleyes:

HLdan said:
Why don't you just stop using iTunes altogether, then your problem is solved.;)
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And then I have to redo my entire music collection/playlists in some other software, not to mention it makes it hard to sync my iPhone. Or maybe I should get rid of that also ? And get rid of the Mac while I'm at it ? Now it's you who seems rather egotistical...
 
HLdan said:
Once again you keep on bringing up my color comment, yet you continue to ignore my question which shows me that you haven't a clue as to any theory on why Apple removed the colors.
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One could base a theory on this contrasting picture:
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I am sick and tired of all the social networking crap: MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, etc. I am just waiting for a message in iTunes to show up like: Alice Cooper just pinched you - or Axel Rose just threw a Cake at you :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
KnightWRX said:
And to answer your question : Only Apple knows why they removed the colors. No one but Apple staff sat on that meeting, and I doubt Apple staff will ever explain why.
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This is why...

The color is in the album artwork according to Steve Jobs himself in an email reply he sent me after I made a complaint about the design of iTunes 10. So no it was not to make it run faster...LOL :D
 

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I tried to change some source pane text by modifying the file "Localizable.strings" (in iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj) but it had no effect. I have also tried 'en_GB.lproj' to no avail. I am really stumped since I am clearly working on the right text, it just seems I got the wrong file but I cannot think of any other file from where this should come.

(I have naturally quit and restarted iTunes before and after any modifications.)

EDIT: It works now, I have no idea what I did differently.
 
DakotaGuy said:
This is why...

The color is in the album artwork according to Steve Jobs himself in an email reply he sent me after I made a complaint about the design of iTunes 10.
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Except naturally that finding music by browsing with the artwork on does not scale beyond a few dozen albums.
 
manu chao said:
Except naturally that finding music by browsing with the artwork on does not scale beyond a few dozen albums.
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Hey I am just telling you what Steve said. lol

As far as I'm concerned iTunes 10 is a mess starting at the top with the non standard stop light buttons to Ping taking over the UI on this last update.
 
DakotaGuy said:
This is why...

The color is in the album artwork according to Steve Jobs himself in an email reply he sent me after I made a complaint about the design of iTunes 10. So no it was not to make it run faster...LOL :D
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So that respond just confirms that apple is still continuing with its UI idea that the content should take center stage and the UI shouldn't detract from it.
 
NT1440 said:
So that respond just confirms that apple is still continuing with its UI idea that the content should take center stage and the UI shouldn't detract from it.
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Exactly.

I get it. Even if I don't like it.

Content won't be taking center stage for long though. Looks like Ping is ready to take over!:)
 
iTunes 10 fails

This is a terrible update. The only reason you want it is if you have an iPhone that requires it. Who cares about stupid Ping? And what's up with the grey icons and the bug where it lags like crazy when syncing photos onto the iPhone. At least call it iTunes X instead of iTunes 10. And seriously, add a beepin' burn CD button at the bottom right for Pete's sake! Instead they have Ping buttons :confused:

I'm disappointed in this update (but not as much as the crashy iTunes 8 that updated my library then crashed making it unusable for iTunes 7 :mad: :confused:, long story I got my library fixed eventually but had to stick to iTunes 7).
 
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