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ever heard of spaces? i have a whole desktop dedicated to itunes

Same here -- I like the integration of Spaces and Full Screen Apps in Lion since it "formalizes" practices like this. I already maximize certain apps like iCal and iTunes (when organizing media or browsing the store); Lion just gives you as much space as possible while cleanly distinguishing between spaces meant for multiple windowed apps and those dedicated to a single app.
 
I doubt it will be a "lot" of people. I would think that there are very few people who are still holding on to old Rosetta apps or have some esoteric peripherals that won't work with Lion. There will be some people in that group, but a lot, no.

Audio interfaces, software, NAS drives, there will be tons of stuff which isn't obsolete that doesn't work properly on day one.

It's the same for every major OS launch, it always takes a few weeks to get the bugs sorted.
 
I believe it's Lion-only.

No, it's not.


Can you verify it is the 64-bit version of iTunes 10.4?

Unfortunately, I have Snow Leopard installed on a 32bit system.



its only rewritten and cocoa on lion
All of the Cocoa controls seem to be present on Snow Leopard as well.


Finally. Standard Cocoa text field behavior (this is on Lion) :):

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Still a lot of modal dialogs though :(
 
more importantly, iTunes is now a 64-bit Cocoa application under Lion.

LOL... Yes, they really important thing is not new functionallity, but the compiler used to build it... :rolleyes:

I know, I know, there are indirect benefits: e.g., it should be easier for Apple to maintain which means more development time spent on functional improvements rather than keeping it running.

The ability to address more than 4GB RAM is NOT a benefit... if iTunes starts using > 4GB RAM in the near future something has gone seriously wrong.
 
To be honest, it doesn't really feel like a proper Cocoa app at all, probably because for the most part, that's not actually what it is.
 
Does anyone know if this would run in 64 bit on a 2008 uMB? It has a Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz processor. I haven't downloaded Lion yet so I'm not sure. :confused:
 
Audio interfaces, software, NAS drives, there will be tons of stuff which isn't obsolete that doesn't work properly on day one.

It's the same for every major OS launch, it always takes a few weeks to get the bugs sorted.

I guarantee you that if I upgrade to Lion right now, I'll have to call in sick the rest of the week because it will break something. I don't know what, but it will be something I can't do without. There will likely be workarounds, but they will take many hours to implement.
 
iTunes 10.4 works fine on Snow Leopard.

It actually runs on Leopard, on a DP 1.8 GHz G5 from 2003… I haven't tested it yet, though, so I have no idea whether it runs fine or not. But I just applied the update on the last two G5 towers remaining in the Mac lab where I work, so you can take my word for it. ;)
 
Does anyone know if this would run in 64 bit on a 2008 uMB? It has a Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz processor. I haven't downloaded Lion yet so I'm not sure. :confused:

I have a 2008 uMBP (the 2.53 GHz version, but same era). The WWDC version of Lion ran beautifully (yes, I have an actual dev account that I don't really need at this point). You should be fine with your machine. I recommend a clean install though, my Mac on Snow Leopard is ultra slow because... well I do development and media creation on it. After a while the system is so cluttered up it's just slow. Fresh install and it's like a brand new computer.
 
It actually runs on Leopard, on a DP 1.8 GHz G5 from 2003… I haven't tested it yet, though, so I have no idea whether it runs fine or not. But I just applied the update on the last two G5 towers remaining in the Mac lab where I work, so you can take my word for it. ;)

Holy crap, it's super snappy! It loaded in under three icon bounces and immediately showed the available shared libraries in the sidebar! I know its library is actually empty and I should take that fact into account as far as loading times are concerned, but still, it's pretty damn impressive for a eight-year-old computer with but 2 GB of memory. :cool:

Edit: Aaaaaaaand it just loaded my shared library, comprising nearly 13.000 tracks, in just 26 seconds… Again, we have a fast ethernet switch here in the room, but this is still very much acceptable, IMHO. ;) [iTunes actually has to fully process the host computer's library database in order to display all the tags, playlists, etc., right?]
 
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Can anyone confirm whether or not SRS iWOW (3.1) works with OS X Lion and iTunes 10.4?

Thanks!

It works in 10.5beta but it gives an error message about the menu item insertion, so you can't make it's window appear/disappear with the Window menu.. But it defaults to appearing anyway and you can still minimise it.. :) I'd assume it's the same in 10.4
 
So, does this mean they're going to maintain different version of iTunes for those not running Lion or who are running iTunes for Windows or, are they just going to drop support for all other platforms?

Nope, this version runs on 10.6, even 10.5...


took them long enough but typical Apple they do block support for older OS.

Nope, read the release notes. I'm running it on 10.6 right now.

HOWEVER...

While it runs on 10.6, it only does it in 32 bit mode. It's finally a 64 bit app, but it's limited to 64 bit on 10.7.

WHY, apple? 10.6 supports 64 bit apps perfectly well and most apple apps are 64 bit on that OS. I hate to say it, but this limitation looks an awful lot like intentionally crippling performance on the older OS.

And yes, I understand perfectly well the benefits of 64 bit - the main one is working with more than 4 gigs of ram but even when that's not the case, running in 64 bit generally does provide some performance gain.
 
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