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But why? If you can force it to upload your original instead of matching, you get exactly the version from your own library on your mobile devices. Why would I want to force it to match something else in the store?

Convenience, I just gave you one example of MULTIPLE albums that act similarly... If I could just match them to the correct version it would be easier... That's what the service does, after all. I don't want to waste hours and hours waiting for my music to be uploaded, when it could just match without any problems.
 
This is exactly what I am worried about. I have 16000 songs that are matched/uploaded. I deleted all songs from my mac. Some songs are backed up, not all. So if I download a pearl jam record that I own today with Apple Music, then when my Apple music expires, then can I again download that same album without DRM? I plan on keeping match, but not Apple Music. Thank you.

Yep! If you plan on keeping Match, your 16,000 songs will remain DRM-free while in iCloud Music Library. Match is really the guarantee in keeping your previously owned tracks DRMless and I think the only noticeable differentiating factor.

Though, what I don't know with Apple Music is since the online limited was bumped to 100,000k, if Match also will retain 100k unDRM'd tracks or be cut off after the initial 20k. Not sure about that (my library is only ~15k).

(Fyi, I've tested this and haven't had a problem ~ tracks I download that were original unDRM'd still don't have it & mp3s I add without DRM can still be uploaded and downloaded without any DRM attached; only tracks added from Apple Music have DRM [as expected, of course]).
 
But if you already converted your old purchase that were with DRM to none DRM version than you should be okay to sign up to Apple Music and cancel iTunes Match because even though Apple Music changes you purchased Music back to DRM does not mean after I cancel my purchases will not be available to download back from iTunes Store.


In any case make a Time Machine back up or a back up before you cancel iTunes Match but I am pretty sure if you are using the same account you purchased you music under that should also help things out.

Not fully doubting you, but are you sure about this? I haven't checked or seen anything about that yet. That sounds right, since the license for those individual tracks would still be valid from the store, but haven't yet seen that occurring or mentioned in the wild.

Either way, that's nice though odd since it locks your music into iTunes again (wasn't there a cost associated with stripping DRM from your tunes? can't remember, and if so, that's ****** since purchases from the iTunes Store don't have DRM, still).
 
well I just lost all my matched songs.. they are no longer listed... WTF...

everything is either uploaded or itunes music, had lots matched... plus I think there are less songs...
Well have to go look for the latest backup.....
 
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Does this fix the issue of transferring my music from iTunes to my phone with out getting the error message that I have iTunes Match. Because I have that turned off and still can't put song on my phone?? Some one please let me know or email me a solution.
 
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Still doesn't fix the issue where your metadata gets altered behind your back. As this issue seems to come and go, I rather think it's a server issue though. But yes: I edit the metadata and artwork of a song, check back 10 minutes later and my updates are gone. Nice one, Apple.
 
OT I guess, but my mac still opens iPhoto when I connect my camera, and I have to tell it to open Photo instead.
You can set that as the default option. But I was just looking to "rip off the plaster" as it were, you can't update your Photos library with changes made in iPhoto. Considering this is where Apple is forcing us to go if we want to use iCloud photos I figured I might as well get used to it.
 
HOLY CRAP! This update did not fix anything when I scroll down to find a album I get a weird scary flickering effect. WTF Apple are you guys snorting friggin coke? I friggin blame Taylor Swift for all this fails lately this problems did not exist until she bitched.
 
Does this fix the issue of transferring my music from iTunes to my phone with out getting the error message that I have iTunes Match. Because I have that turned off and still can't put song on my phone?? Some one please let me know or email me a solution.

If you have iCloud Music Library turned on for your phone, you can't transfer music directly from your computer to your phone via sync, you have to download on the phone from the cloud.

There is a bug, yes, but the bug is that the message says you have Match, when it should say you have iCloud Music Library activated. The gist of the message is correct though - the only want to sync the old way is to turn iCML off.

Also, it's not a good idea to include your email in posts on forums. You should delete that (I've excluded it from the quote above).
 
What I mean is that before Apple Music I subscribed to iTunes Match. Whenever I added music to my library from a CD iTunes would either match it or upload it. Apple basically gave me a copy to keep forever. If I do this process with Apple Music it doesn't quite work the same. My understandng is the matched music will disappear if I cancel Apple Music subsription, therefore losing songs that I, in fact, own, not rent.

iTunes Match and Apple Music are mutually exclusive. It's very confusing! If you sign into Apple Music, you lose your connection to iTunes Match. If you sign into iTunes Match, you still have access to Apple Music, but not sure if there's any restrictions. It's all a very confusing clusterfluck!

To restore my iTunes Match, I had to sign out, at which point I could see Account > iTunes Match... and then sign into that. That options was hidden while I was signed into Apple Music, which is how I got confused in the first place. They are messing up the user interface by making it too complex... again. (Hey Apple... disable menu items that can't be used... don't hide them entirely!)
 
For me this release is presenting a new and more severe bug o_O

Whenever I stream any radio station (Beats 1 or something else) my airplay is being stopped and iTunes switches over to my computer as an output device. The airplay icon is than gone aswell and I have restart iTunes to let it reappear again. Itunes Music content is behaving just normal.
 
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There is really no perfect solution for this. iTunes Match relies on acoustic fingerprinting to identify songs. This uses heuristic algorithms, so they will not be 100% perfect. In my experience mismatches are quite rare though.

But in no case will you "risk your digital music collection", because iTunes Match does not touch your original library unless you delete and re-download the songs yourself.

Mind you, I'm talking about iTunes Match, not Apple Music. In Apple Music, they seem to use a different matching algorithm that takes metadata into account, and there have also been bugs that resulted in corruption of the local library for some people (let's hope the iTunes update has fixed them).
Don't know why you would expect your files to always be matched to that particular version of a song. It should match it to the version that is closest to your file. If that happens to be a different version than the MfI one, I see no problem with that.
I've been a Match subscriber for several years and never had any of these issues. The only issues I had were that occasionally album artwork didn't show up on the mobile devices (or took very long to do so), and I've had 2 or 3 songs (out of over 10,000) that were stuck in "waiting" mode for a long time (i.e. not matched or uploaded). Otherwise, it has worked very well for me.

Thanks for giving me an update on the status, it is good to hear the issues are rare.

One of the purposes I had envisioned for iTunes Match for myself is to upgrade my older 128kbps MP3s, which I ripped from CDs I purchased that were stolen (along with my car they were in) a few years ago and thus I cannot re-rip. The gray area IP rights issue aside, Apple basically advertised iTunes Match for what seemed like this very purpose, among others.

To this end, I expect it to match the correct album where the song came from. I fully understand the technical reason for why it isn't always correct, but this is an engineering problem that is solvable, without having to rely on metadata (ex. if user matches 9/10 songs from a particular album, and song #10 matches to either the album copy, the greatest hits copy, or the compilation copy, odds are it's the album copy; or if a particular song matches either the album copy, the greatest hits copy, or the compilation copy, and 12 other matched songs are also on this compilation, odds are it's the complication copy that is needed; etc.). Thus, I do hope to use Match to "replace" my existing collection.

As for the MfI songs - Apple promotes Match by saying it's a way to "upgrade" "lower quality" MP3s, and that one's music will sound better for it. To sometimes directly say all that, and other times imply it, it seems disingenuous to then not match the MfI songs, especially since if they're available and the non-MfI songs are not even sold on iTunes.

Maybe my expectations are too high. I would easily pay double what Apple charges, if the above concerns were addressed.
 
Is for the MfI songs - Apple promotes Match by saying it's a way to "upgrade" "lower quality" MP3s, and that one's music will sound better for it. To sometimes directly say all that, and other times imply it, it seems disingenuous to then not match the MfI songs, especially since if they're available and the non-MfI songs are not even sold on iTunes.
That's all under the assumption that MfI versions are always better than the other versions. But that's not true. MfI versions of older music usually use new "remasterings" as source. The problem is that the studios often succumb to the "loudness war" when remastering catalog music and use too much dynamic range compression. In my experience rips from older CDs often sound better than the MfI versions.
 
For me this release is presenting a new bug and more severe bug o_O

Whenever I stream any radio station (Beats 1 or something else) my airplay is being stopped and iTunes switches over to my computer as an output device. The airplay icon is than gone aswell and I have restart iTunes to let it reappear again. Itunes Music content is behaving just normal.


I had that with the prior version as well, though depending on the day was fine at times. Beats1 would never work on Airplay, but not my type of listening genre. What I ended up doing was hold down Option, and choose the system volume in the menu bar to send audio to an AE. That consistently worked.

That option isn't available with the El Capitan public beta, but so far, no problems with iTunes 12.2 and Airplay.
 
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Nope, the new version is still rubbish.
 

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Thanks for giving me an update on the status, it is good to hear the issues are rare.

One of the purposes I had envisioned for iTunes Match for myself is to upgrade my older 128kbps MP3s, which I ripped from CDs I purchased that were stolen (along with my car they were in) a few years ago and thus I cannot re-rip. The gray area IP rights issue aside, Apple basically advertised iTunes Match for what seemed like this very purpose, among others.

To this end, I expect it to match the correct album where the song came from. I fully understand the technical reason for why it isn't always correct, but this is an engineering problem that is solvable, without having to rely on metadata (ex. if user matches 9/10 songs from a particular album, and song #10 matches to either the album copy, the greatest hits copy, or the compilation copy, odds are it's the album copy; or if a particular song matches either the album copy, the greatest hits copy, or the compilation copy, and 12 other matched songs are also on this compilation, odds are it's the complication copy that is needed; etc.). Thus, I do hope to use Match to "replace" my existing collection.

As for the MfI songs - Apple promotes Match by saying it's a way to "upgrade" "lower quality" MP3s, and that one's music will sound better for it. To sometimes directly say all that, and other times imply it, it seems disingenuous to then not match the MfI songs, especially since if they're available and the non-MfI songs are not even sold on iTunes.

Maybe my expectations are too high. I would easily pay double what Apple charges, if the above concerns were addressed.

Those issues aren't rare man, at all, to be honest. I don't know if you read my reply to him, but in fact those issues are quite common. I think people just don't notice, they listen to the song and they think it is the correct version, when in fact it isn't, most people won't care, but for people that love to have a perfectly organized library that's unacceptable. I think he meant that the matching rate is way better than it was before, but the problem now is (as you perfectly describe it) that you don't receive the exact same files from the album you are matching, you receive copies from greatest hits albums, soundtrack albums, compilation albums, etc., also the problem with the explicit songs coming back as clean versions and viceversa.

You are right, to me the whole point of Match is to completely replace your library with iTunes files, and unify all of the songs you had before.

The solution would be simple. a) Add a "Force Upload" button and b) Add a "Match to different version" button. The issues can be resolved if Apple provided those options.

As for MFI files, yes it is annoying that you get files that are not even available in the store anymore, but you can actually receive MFI files, it's a little bit tricky, and we SHOULD NOT have to do this, but if you cut like the last 2 or 3 seconds from a song, re-add it and match it, for some reason I don't know, it will match to a MFI version.
 
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You are right, to me the whole point of Match is to completely replace your library with iTunes files, and unify all of the songs you had before.
This is a strange statement. The primary goal of Match is to make *your* library available on all your devices, not to replace it. Why would I want to "unify" my carefully ripped and otherwise acquired music to iTunes versions?
The solution would be simple. a) Add a "Force Upload" button and b) Add a "Match to different version" button. The issues can be resolved if Apple provided those options.
A "force upload" option would be nice, similar to what Google Music provides. Still don't see the point of option b).
 
Well.. spoiler alert. IT DOESNT FIX THE STUPID BUG.
See prove below: iTunes is still matching local files to Apple Music files instead of just "Match" meaning that in other computers if I download that song I will get DRM and not the original file that I OWN.
 

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Still doesn't work for me. I still have several songs that are being upload as Apple Music instead of Matched Music. If I remove the download and redownloaded the song it still downloads it as Apple Music and not matched. This sucks since we are not suppose to be getting DRM songs since we paid for Match...
 
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