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I can finally add my live albums and it doesn't think they are studio recordings!!! This is a good day, my iCloud Music Library can finally be complete :)
 
I go to view, and select "Only Music Available Offline" so I'm ok, no iCloud Music showing on my Music, but then I go to my playlist and it shows the iCloud Music, WTH?!?!

Ha, thanks for the tip - "only music available offline" has hidden all the old crap from the Playlist view!

I've extended my smart playlists with "iCloud status" "is not" "purchased" and that seems to work as well.

I guess it's time to spend the dark winter in Spotify-land, until Apple reboots this mess in the same way they cleaned up their photos mess.
 
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Anyway to hide purchased music? It's all of a sudden appeared with this update, and I don't want to download or view any of it.

Edit: Got it. Had to check Music Available Offline, and uncheck All Music, under the View menu.
 
That crap started under Steve.

Of all the things Ive's team is cleaning up, you'd think iTunes would be high on the list.

I think it's going to be a long slog. Even though code is made modular these days, this stuff has got to be looking like spaghetti here and there at this point. Pull one end, they may have no idea what's going to happen somewhere else along the line. If we're lucky, it's not us making those discoveries...

Some of the changes I don't mind too much although I'm still not used to them. I mean it does makes sense to carve out tabbed views of movies, say, vs. music. You want to see different attributes in the main window in the list view. Playlist vs music still trips me up though.

Various other changes in the past few years I take a pretty dim view of. Bring back multiple playlist window editing! And I will never forgive their taking away by-the-playlist options to shuffle and repeat. Likewise, option-shuffle, and visual resequencing of shuffled lists.

I still like being able to flip into the store from iTunes, and to be able to see my purchase history with a few clicks. It beats poring through archives mumbling "I must have that receipt here, didn't I buy that track... did I rip the thing??"

So I'm not giving up on this ecosystem for my music. I'm a little cautious about running the updates though. I wait a little while. I make assorted backups first and also ensure I have some independent external archives of both the libraries and the underlying data files first.
 
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Anyway to hide purchased music? It's all of a sudden appeared with this update, and I don't want to download or view any of it.

Edit: Got it. Had to check Music Available Offline, and uncheck All Music, under the View menu.

Mmm yes and no, that's what I did at first, but then I went to a smart playlist and the purchased music (iCloud Music) is showing.

Also, it also shows my purchased videos and movies and I can't find a way for them not to show.

Anyone knows a a way to downgrade to 12.2.1?
 
I love software updates, it's like christmas!

LOL, funny I felt the same way this time. Woke up and booted my Macbook Air and OS 10.10.5 update appeared...Like Santa Claus came during the night! :)
 
What an absolute mess this is. Was super-excited about the possibility of this update fixing all the album artwork mess (and same for the iOS update)...but no....

Will not stay subscribed after the trial period is over.

I don't understand why they simply cannot allow me to add Apple Music "rented" music to my library (more important on the phone mind you) and be done with it. Why does it have to scour my music and change the artwork?! AAAARGGGHHH!!!!!
 
Strange. iTunes Match Playlist Songs are not on the same order on my iOS devices. The playlist is there but they are no in the order by Song Title as on iTunes on my desktop. Anyone seeing this error?
 
I can finally add my live albums and it doesn't think they are studio recordings!!! This is a good day, my iCloud Music Library can finally be complete :)

How so? I've had to completely change metadata and then change it back in the past lol. What's changed?
 
Does it allow the removal of the right info bar, which is "slightly" annoying. Also can one remove references to 'Radio' in the main menu.

If find that Apple have turned iTunes into an obnoxious beast....
What's the problem?


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What an absolute mess this is. Was super-excited about the possibility of this update fixing all the album artwork mess (and same for the iOS update)...but no....

Will not stay subscribed after the trial period is over.

I don't understand why they simply cannot allow me to add Apple Music "rented" music to my library (more important on the phone mind you) and be done with it. Why does it have to scour my music and change the artwork?! AAAARGGGHHH!!!!!

I empathize... and started my trial of AM with a blank library because of it. I tacked in a couple dozen tracks of my own stuff and a few playlists to see how it would work, on a spare laptop, having the icloud music library turned on with my own stuff involved. No thanks. I don't want my metadata messed with. I don't want sutff uploaded just because the track names don't match. Etc ETC. So I'm just going to have Apple Music stuff in that library going forward.

The very very good: so easy to discover new stuff that I like. I am keeping my Apple Music sub after the trial expires. I'm not a big fan of streaming, so to me being able to download choices and enable offline use is really great.

The good: I'm going to devote an iPod touch to Apple Music, and one iTunes library on a spare laptop. I will be using it mostly to determine if I want to own some of the stuff I rent. When I later buy some of those ithings onto my main iTunes library on my main laptop, then I can mix those purchases with my other stuff on other devices to my heart's content. To me, being able in this way to "preview" entire albums of classical works or whole tracks of pop, jazz, blues etc. stuff makes the monthly sub to Apple Music worth it. There's no way I can figure out if I like an opera or symphonic performance based on track previews. I have even regretted purchases of plenty of non-classical tracks when the preview was great and the track... hmm, not so much. We've all been there by now. It was one of the reasons I went for Pandora. I do like Apple Music better.

The bad: I find on my experimental spare laptop setup that I'm unhappy with the increased complexity of my iTunes views of "apple music, apple music version of my itunes-purchased music, my ripped music (uploaded)..." when I have icloud music library turned on (plus decide and then remember if I have selected offline only or all music views at a given time. Then shift to playlist view... "apple music playlists" "my playlists" and I didn't get around yet to find out what happens to Genius lists I've kept in the past because I'm afraid to experiment on my main library on my main laptop! This kind of separation by "Whose Is It?" is not how I like to deal with my music. It's artificial. It's almost as bad as having to remember if I bought a digital book from Amazon or Barnes & Noble or iBooks Store, so I can decide which app to launch. I lose my temper at least once a day launching the wrong app to look up sometning in a purchased reference book, or to resume reading a novel. And so now do I have to remember that I have a playlist of Mozart symphonies among my Apple Music playlists? Will I be looking for that playlist among the playlists of my own Mozart stuff? Will I be annoyed when I finally find the thing? Yeah! Bet the ranch!

The really bad: I am completely not interested in having ALL the same playlists on my laptop and my mobile devices. Are you kidding me? I must have over 400 playlists on my main laptop. They serve all kinds of different functions. They're lists for devices. They're seasonal. They're reminders to play newly purchased stuff or stuff that hasn't got much play or stuff I want to give to someone or stuff I want to archive and delete. Or they're playlists of audiobooks so I can keep track of where I am in those more easily on mobiles. I folder some of these lists on my laptop, of course. Well even that way I certainly don't want all that stuff on any, much less all, of my mobile(s). The global approach of "everything on all your devices!" just doesn't work for me. In fact it's the antithesis of how I use my mobiles and my main libraries. I tried messing around with folders but realized those are all global all the time too, and so that's not for me. I have to leave my main libraries out of this whole deal and use Apple Music separately. And I can do that.

The annoying: The bandwidth of getting your own stuff involved, sheesh. I understand the licensing issues and their desire to prevent your burning combined playlists, but really there must be some other way to protect the artists and labels' interests. Plus I kinda wish they wouldn't bring in the whole purchased items thing anyway. If you have a large collection of iTunes Store purchases then it's highly unlikely you want even a view of it all cluttering up your take on what's on your mobile device. I mean after awhile you wonder how much space is being taken up by just showing you an entirel library of stuff you don't want to see much less download onto that device. So again, that's not for me. Apple Music is going to be a separate experience: listen to something, like it, download it, keep it as long as I want while I subscribe, so listen some more, if I like it enough to want to mix with stuff I own, then go onto my main laptop iTunes library and buy it there and mix it there, or pick up the CD and rip it there. Period. Forget all the matching and uploading. I might make an exception here or there, but it won't happen on my main libraries on my main laptop. It will be on the spare and on that dedicated iPod touch.

Bottom line: I reallly like Apple Music, and having it on mobiles or also on iTunes on a laptop. But I can't deal with the hassles of using it in an integrated way with (apple music versions of) my own stuff. The restrictions, the segregations and the globalization of choices about playlists, foldering and content on board are major detractions for me.
 
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I love software updates, it's like christmas!
I used to wait eagerly for software updates. Lately I run for cover, knowing that in the next few weeks I will spend an excessive amount of time on these and other forums trying to figure out what went wrong. At my place in time I have many more activities to keep me busy and actually add to my income. Opposed to working for free trying to find solutions to a gazillion new problems. Sorry for the rant but, I am really tired of updates. How about we do less updates and "It Just Works" would be nice.
 
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Oh no! The silky smooth 60 FPS scrolling is gone now. That was the first time iTunes was truly smooth. Now it's still better than iTunes 11, but not as good as 12.2.1


EDIT: smooth scrolling came back when I updated to 10.10.5. Running the latest iTunes on 10.10.4 was laggy. Hmmm.
 
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When I search in itunes on my computer the only results I get are radio stations. Any ideas? On my phone if I search a song or artist I can add it to my music etc. I don't get itunes at all, it sucks rhino dung.

*ninja edit* after quitting the application and relaunching it is now working as it should.
 
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The good: I'm going to devote an iPod touch to Apple Music, and one iTunes library on a spare laptop.
This is exactly why I am sticking with Spotify. The one selling point of Apple Music for me would be flawless integration. Without changing metadata, deleting songs, changing artwork. But it doesn't do that. For me personally it's much easier to have Spotify and iTunes separately than have two iTunes libraries.
 
This is exactly why I am sticking with Spotify. The one selling point of Apple Music for me would be flawless integration. Without changing metadata, deleting songs, changing artwork. But it doesn't do that. For me personally it's much easier to have Spotify and iTunes separately than have two iTunes libraries.

It's flawless integration for me. I've had no issues with metadata or artwork.
 
Match but no Apple Music here. After using 12.2.2 for 20 minutes I don't see any problems. I didn't have serious issues with 12.2.1 either though. I think most of the bugs only affect people who signed up for Apple Music.

Thanks very much for the feedback. You have given me a little more confidence. I'm still going to wait, in case more woes are reported.
 
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