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I think it's going to be a long slog. Even though code is made modular these days, this stuff has got to be looking like spaghetti here and there at this point. Pull one end, they may have no idea what's going to happen somewhere else along the line. If we're lucky, it's not us making those discoveries...

Some of the changes I don't mind too much although I'm still not used to them. I mean it does makes sense to carve out tabbed views of movies, say, vs. music. You want to see different attributes in the main window in the list view. Playlist vs music still trips me up though.

Various other changes in the past few years I take a pretty dim view of. Bring back multiple playlist window editing! And I will never forgive their taking away by-the-playlist options to shuffle and repeat. Likewise, option-shuffle, and visual resequencing of shuffled lists.

I still like being able to flip into the store from iTunes, and to be able to see my purchase history with a few clicks. It beats poring through archives mumbling "I must have that receipt here, didn't I buy that track... did I rip the thing??"

So I'm not giving up on this ecosystem for my music. I'm a little cautious about running the updates though. I wait a little while. I make assorted backups first and also ensure I have some independent external archives of both the libraries and the underlying data files first.

Wait—are you saying that you can't shuffle a playlist? That's how I listen to music! No way I'm updating if that's the case.

Maybe I misunderstand you.
 
All I want is my iCloud session in iTunes to stay active after I clear Safari browsing history.

I wish they would fix the Safari cookie issue with iTunes, whereby if you delete the iCloud cookie, you lose metadata in iTunes.

I suspect it's deep coding, which is why they haven't. How many years has it been? Sigh.
 
Anyway to hide purchased videos and movies? Previously, there was a way to 'uptick' those items and just view those downloaded to your computer-that's no longer the case. Now all purchases (those in the 'cloud' and residing on your hard-drive) show up. Curse you iTunes!
 
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Music still plays in reverse order in Artist+descending Year view. :(
 
I posted this in another thread by mistake but I hope iOS 9 brings some huge changes for the Music app because since the last update at the end of June it has been one huge cluster $*&^!!!! I’ve lost songs, other songs have doubled, the album cover artwork is completely messed up with wrong covers for different albums!


iTunes and Music app are starting to look as “good” as Samsung’s Kies!


Get it right Apple! You canned the dude that messed up the Maps a few yrs ago – what gives with the crap with the Music…?!
 
I really can't stand the iTunes interface these days. So many sub-menus and sub-sub-navigation tools. They've added so much crap onto here! E.g. the distinction between "My Music" and "Playlists" makes no sense. Even when you're on "Playlists" (which at least looks kinda like the simpler iTunes of old) there are THREE different navigation tools on the top bar - switching between music, movies etc; my music, playlists, for you, radio...; and sorting items like artists/songs etc. Not clear which of these menu choices put you in different sections of the app. On top of that you have a weird THREE column view.

Gah, Steve would never allow this kind of UI crap.

And when Apple broke out the iBooks app. And, yes, the UI is a mess! It used to be so easy to get around, and now... ARG!!!

And I've had problems with iBook and podcast content not updating properly. The stability of the 'New And Improved' iTunes is spotty IMO. It's become far too much a dive app. Swooning at the worst possible moments.
 
I posted this in another thread by mistake but I hope iOS 9 brings some huge changes for the Music app because since the last update at the end of June it has been one huge cluster $*&^!!!! I’ve lost songs, other songs have doubled, the album cover artwork is completely messed up with wrong covers for different albums!


iTunes and Music app are starting to look as “good” as Samsung’s Kies!


Get it right Apple! You canned the dude that messed up the Maps a few yrs ago – what gives with the crap with the Music…?!

I went through and renamed and juggled a lot of tracks, and all that work appears to have been tossed in that last update.

Part of it is my bitch with the CDDB content. I mean, do people really need to have [LIVE] stuck at the end of EVERY TRACK on a 'Live album'? Oh, and the name of all the contributors attached to every song on an album? And [DISC 1], [DISC2], etc? WTF!?!?

Oh, and hiding the 'Shuffle' button? I don't think I should have to work that hard to get random music to play on a player that made me a slave to the 'Shuffle' function...

COME ON APPLE! Ask your users how bad you are abusing them...
 
For a company dedicated to making computer hardware function like a common appliance, iTunes is illogical. Unnecessarily complex. And as the primary conduit between two product lines simplicity can't be sacrificed. Oh Apple, where for art thou...
 
Anyway to hide purchased music? It's all of a sudden appeared with this update, and I don't want to download or view any of it.

Edit: Got it. Had to check Music Available Offline, and uncheck All Music, under the View menu.

For me, in Playlist mode:
1. These options, aren't shown on the View menu
2. Every playlist has had an iCloud column added automatically. Only way I can see to get rid of these is to manually edit using column browser

Also, indicative of overall lack of quality
A. Despite having Ratings set to Stars only, the info dialog still shows Stars and Hearts.
B. Info panel still doesn't handle 'cut' and 'paste' text properly
 
Part of it is my bitch with the CDDB content. I mean, do people really need to have [LIVE] stuck at the end of EVERY TRACK on a 'Live album'? Oh, and the name of all the contributors attached to every song on an album? And [DISC 1], [DISC2], etc? WTF!?!?
I ripped a lot of my CDs in 128kbps. I was young and needed the mon... drive space I mean. I corrected all of the [DISC 1] [FEAT PLAVKA] and [LIVE] crap. Now I'm re-ripping the albums. Of course the new rips don't just take place of the old ones, they rip next to the old ones, and when I delete the old ones, they disappear from my playlists. And don't get me started on the obviously different "King Of The Mountain" and "King of The Mountain"...

This is not really Apple's fault. But perhaps there is a better solution than using CDDB. Like... your own database of 30 million songs or even more in the iTunes Store...? No? Sorry I asked.

(BTW, "[LIVE]" sorts out some of Apple Music matching problems, so maybe it isn't entirely useless after all. A bit like the Microsoft code which would have a comment "old hack, don't know why but it works, don't touch!")
 
I think they've only considered and designed Apple music for the common music listener who maybe ripped 50 CDs, bought another 100 albums, and bought another 500 or so songs from iTunes.

Anyone with 10,000 or more songs, various types of albums releases for the same album, and maintains their iTunes metadata with hyper critical attention is screwed by v12.

I installed it on my work computer which only has 3000 of my favorite tracks. I wouldn't dare install it on my home computer.
 
Wait—are you saying that you can't shuffle a playlist? That's how I listen to music! No way I'm updating if that's the case.

Maybe I misunderstand you.

You used to be able to set shuffle on per playlist. Now it's global. You're shuffing stuff or you're not, at the moment you press play.

So what you hear in "My Pop Tracks Bought This Week" gets shuffled. But what you hear in "My Carefully Arranged List of One Sonata, Two Quartets and a couple of Bach partitas" is also shuffled, very probably not what is desired.

I finally got around this by arranging short pop playlists in some agreeable manually shuffled order. I arrange classical playlist order by the particular work (group of tracks), not tracks. So basically everything is manually preshuffled by me. Then I just NEVER turn shuffle on. Of course that's a drag if I just want to shuffle some blues or jazz album or something. So I break my "never" rule and usually forget to turn shuffle off again later... and get mad all over again!
 
Anyone with 10,000 or more songs, various types of albums releases for the same album, and maintains their iTunes metadata with hyper critical attention is screwed by v12.

I am not saying that there aren't bugs in Itunes in combination with Apple Music, far from it but a sweeping statement like this simply isn't true. I have over 14k songs in my library, with different versions of albums and spent a lot of time getting the metadata just like I want it and that hasn't been affected AT ALL by the introduction of Apple music and/or iTunes 12.

The only annoying bug I have at the moment is that duplicate songs on different albums aren't available in the 'duplicate' album. I understand that there's no need to have two copies of the same file (if they can't be matched by Apple) on their server for 2 or more different albums.. But they should have a flag or something in their database saying song A is on Album A (track 12) and also on album B (track 13) etc and not just leave the songs out of Album B altogether in album B
 
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Oh, and hiding the 'Shuffle' button? I don't think I should have to work that hard to get random music to play on a player that made me a slave to the 'Shuffle' function...

And the repeat / repeat-one button as well. In iTunes, you can turn repeat functions on with a key combo from the app menu, and then its icon persists as an option next to shuffle in the now playing window for awhile --you can toggle it on or off again-- but after awhile it vanishes. Back in the day the repeat and shuffle options were just always there but greyed out if you hadn't turned them on. How was that broken?! I liked it fine that way.
 
Wait—are you saying that you can't shuffle a playlist? That's how I listen to music! No way I'm updating if that's the case.
Shuffling works fine in playlists. I guess LizKat was referring to the fact that it's a global setting instead of remembering per playlist whether you're shuffling or not (this was changed a long time ago though). Personally I like the current approach better because it was sometimes confusing that switching playlists would suddenly (de)activate shuffle.
 
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Quick Question. Not sure if this is normal just on iTunes or I am missing something. On iOS if i go to new music and then choose top songs. It'll automatically skip to the next song or I can hit next and it'll go to the next song. On iTunes on the Mac [12.2.2] if I go to new music and choose top songs. I start a song, after that song is done it won't skip automatically, it just ends. Or even if I hit skip it won't go to the next top song. This is the same thing for top tracks for an artist, for example. Is this completely normal?? Thanks
 
Quick Question. Not sure if this is normal just on iTunes or I am missing something. On iOS if i go to new music and then choose top songs. It'll automatically skip to the next song or I can hit next and it'll go to the next song. On iTunes on the Mac [12.2.2] if I go to new music and choose top songs. I start a song, after that song is done it won't skip automatically, it just ends. Or even if I hit skip it won't go to the next top song. This is the same thing for top tracks for an artist, for example. Is this completely normal?? Thanks

I have the same experience. I've tried to get to the bottom of this, but there's just no way to make all the new music play one by one on the Mac.
 
Wait—are you saying that you can't shuffle a playlist? That's how I listen to music! No way I'm updating if that's the case.

Maybe I misunderstand you.

You can, the shuffle button is next to the name of the playlist when you're in it. No idea what that poster was on about.

Anyway to hide purchased videos and movies? Previously, there was a way to 'uptick' those items and just saw those downloaded to your computer-that's no longer the case. Now all purchases (those in the 'cloud' and residing on your hard-drive) show up. Curse you iTunes!

Click on View on the menu bar and click 'only movies available offline'. Simple.
 
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You used to be able to set shuffle on per playlist. Now it's global. You're shuffing stuff or you're not, at the moment you press play.

So what you hear in "My Pop Tracks Bought This Week" gets shuffled. But what you hear in "My Carefully Arranged List of One Sonata, Two Quartets and a couple of Bach partitas" is also shuffled, very probably not what is desired.

I finally got around this by arranging short pop playlists in some agreeable manually shuffled order. I arrange classical playlist order by the particular work (group of tracks), not tracks. So basically everything is manually preshuffled by me. Then I just NEVER turn shuffle on. Of course that's a drag if I just want to shuffle some blues or jazz album or something. So I break my "never" rule and usually forget to turn shuffle off again later... and get mad all over again!

Ok.

I like to listen to playlists in random order, so I click on the shuffle button at the top of the playlist, which starts playing the playlist in random order when you click on it. If I want to listen to a symphony or something in order, I just play it in album view.

I'm still on iTunes 12.1.2.27, so maybe it's changed.
 
another bug here.. anyone else? you can now click the beats1 banner in iTunes to see who's playing, featured shows, upcoming shows etc. It shows LIVE NOW and then what ever show is on... but... this never updates until i fully quit iTunes and restart. no way to refresh this... really?
 
another bug here.. anyone else? you can now click the beats1 banner in iTunes to see who's playing, featured shows, upcoming shows etc. It shows LIVE NOW and then what ever show is on... but... this never updates until i fully quit iTunes and restart. no way to refresh this... really?

Not seeing that issue on my MacBook Pro.
 
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