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I ripped a lot of my CDs in 128kbps. I was young and needed the mon... drive space I mean. I corrected all of the [DISC 1] [FEAT PLAVKA] and [LIVE] crap. Now I'm re-ripping the albums. Of course the new rips don't just take place of the old ones, they rip next to the old ones, and when I delete the old ones, they disappear from my playlists. And don't get me started on the obviously different "King Of The Mountain" and "King of The Mountain"...

This is not really Apple's fault. But perhaps there is a better solution than using CDDB. Like... your own database of 30 million songs or even more in the iTunes Store...? No? Sorry I asked.

(BTW, "[LIVE]" sorts out some of Apple Music matching problems, so maybe it isn't entirely useless after all. A bit like the Microsoft code which would have a comment "old hack, don't know why but it works, don't touch!")

Why not use iTunes Match? For a one-time fee of $24.99, you can upgrade them all to 256k aac (assuming they're in Apple's library). The subscription lasts for a year. Just cancel instead of renewing.
 
Sadly, 12.2.2 broke the "Recently Added" section in Album view. I know: Not everyone uses it. But I rely upon it and use it several times a day.

I know it's beta software, and I've reported it to Apple. But it's frustrating when features that were working fine suddenly break in a newer version.
 
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You still can't search for artist and album title at the same time. If anybody wants to know how to downgrade iTunes to 12.1, I can help.
What are you smoking?
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1. Go to My Music > Albums view
2. Enter unique artist/album into search field, example "Madonna rebel heart" or "Queen greatest hits" (obviously an album you own)
3. Press Enter
4. Curse

iTunes 12.2.1+, Mac OS 10.10.4+, checked on both macs in out household.

And now in the form of interpretive dance:

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This is iTunes 12.1. As you can see, it also has problems. I entered "premiers symptomes air", which is visible on the left. The difference between 12.1 and 12.2: When I press enter in 12.1 this happens:

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When I press enter in 12.2, nothing happens.

For many albums this is not a problem. If I'm looking for "Premiers Symptomes", "Under The Pink" or "Ommadawn", they will be found, and there's only one artist that uses this title. But with titles like "The Best", "Greatest Hits" or "Heart", it doesn't work in 12.2. So either I go through all "The Bests" in my library, or I go to, say, Janet Jackson and go through the 50 albums, singles and EPs that display.

And yes, I am aware someone will soon tell me that I am stupid to use a feature like that, I'm just lazy, Apple removed the feature for Very Important Reasons and if I don't like it I can switch to [some other music player].
 
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1. Go to My Music > Albums view
2. Enter unique artist/album into search field, example "Madonna rebel heart" or "Queen greatest hits" (obviously an album you own)
3. Press Enter
4. Curse

iTunes 12.2.1+, Mac OS 10.10.4+, checked on both macs in out household.

And now in the form of interpretive dance:

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This is iTunes 12.1. As you can see, it also has problems. I entered "premiers symptomes air", which is visible on the left. The difference between 12.1 and 12.2: When I press enter in 12.1 this happens:

View attachment 575278

When I press enter in 12.2, nothing happens.

For many albums this is not a problem. If I'm looking for "Premiers Symptomes", "Under The Pink" or "Ommadawn", they will be found, and there's only one artist that uses this title. But with titles like "The Best", "Greatest Hits" or "Heart", it doesn't work in 12.2. So either I go through all "The Bests" in my library, or I go to, say, Janet Jackson and go through the 50 albums, singles and EPs that display.

And yes, I am aware someone will soon tell me that I am stupid to use a feature like that, I'm just lazy, Apple removed the feature for Very Important Reasons and if I don't like it I can switch to [some other music player].

I think you're really trying to over complicate things, just to complain about something that's really a non issue. You can type the artist into search or album name, it comes into the search pop up, click on the one you want or hit enter for all results and done.
 
This is not really Apple's fault. But perhaps there is a better solution than using CDDB. Like... your own database of 30 million songs or even more in the iTunes Store...? No? Sorry I asked.

CDDB has been a PITA for quite a while. It's probably like Wikipedia, in that people have posted a lot of nonsense, except you then have to live with it...

I ripped a classical CD, and the choices were rather numerous. I chose the one that actually fit the CD perfectly. And then watched in horror as the track names came in IN CHINESE! I deleted the tracks, and then re-ripped the disc, but kept feeling like I really shouldn't have to do that. I've also had 'Bonus CD's' rip with untitled tracks, or jumbled up track names before too.

Still, for all the carping, bitching, whining, and moments of incredulity, CDDB does save typing in the track names. I just wonder where iTunes got the old track information. From the metadata on each track? From some 'way back' area in the iTunes database? And that leaves the last, and most important question: WHY THE HELL WOULD ANY SANE PERSON WANT TO DO THAT TO THEIR OC USERS IN THE FIRST PLACE!?! Like where did iTunes pull that crap from? That was LOW...

EDIT: AHHH! But perhaps they pulled that 'crap' from their own servers and not from CDDB? But still, to nuke changes that people have made? OUCH... And some did change, and some appear not to have. Huh...
 
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When I press enter in 12.2, nothing happens.

Or perhaps iTunes is trying to say 'Here it is. Why did you have me search for it when it was right here'?

I don't know. I quit trying to figure out what Apple's software is trying to do.

It would seem, to me, that that last guy they fired, the 'skeuomorphic' guy, kept their software more focused on functionality and ease of use. Now, all bets are off. iTunes is a mess. It's like a committee designed it, and no one said 'Hey, should we have done that?'

The Music app in iOS is a mess too...

And I still think that breaking iBooks out of the iTunes main app was pretty nutso idea. iTunes *should* be the front end for everything that you buy from Apple online. Who here, raise your hands please, thought that the iBooks weren't coming from the same servers that your movies, TV shows, and other content came from? OK, aside from the sleepy guy in the back, anyone else think that?

It's like they are becoming Microsoft. I hate the feeling that Microsoft changed stuff from one iteration to another of their OS's with the idea being 'Because we can!'. Seeing the same old Win XP screens in Windows 7 just added to people's anger. Why put that screen which used to be under this choice into a whole different one, and have the screen LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME!!! But I haven't had my coffee yet this morning. The ranting may subside soon...
 
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OH, the biggest bitch I have with CDDB is the 'Compilations' category.

Case in point: WHO THE HECK THINKS THAT THE GUNS AND ROSES CD 'CHINESE DEMOCRACY' IS A 'COMPILATION'?

And a Jimmy Buffett greatest hits CD? And an Alice Cooper CD? A Bob Dylan CD? And on and on and on...

People that did that should be SHOT! And while 'cleaning up' that mess in the beginning (years ago), I had my first iTunes database crash. That's fun...

WTF CDDB!!! WTF APPLE!!!

And my latest issue is that I rebuilt my Mac Mini. I downgraded it to Mavericks because it was getting flaky on Yosemite. It dropped off my network after the downgrade. SO, I reinstalled Mavericks from 'scratch'. And am copying my music and movies back over to it (I use it as a music server on our network), and I get an 'Error code -50'! I find that the drive dismounted on the Mini! I couldn't get it to mount again, so I restarted. Then the folders are grayed out on the drive I was copying to. Then I couldn't delete them. Then I had to repartition to erase them. Then I have to now COPY THE INDIVIDUAL FOLDERS IN SMALL GROUPS!!! Then I hit a nearly FIFTEEN GIG 'compilations' folder... A 'compilations' folder that I thought was dealt with in the old version of iTunes. (I swear that the tracks were moved out of the compilations folder)

I don't know how long until the next -50, and it's swallowing a fifteen gig 'compilations' folder. Just begging for another -50 error...

AARRRRRRRRRRRRGGG!!!

Is it too early for shots?

I'm starting to really fall un-in-love with Apple... (The PC 'Netbook' I had was tested for distance across the parking lot a few years ago. (It got a lot farther than I thought it would) I could see if the Mini can break that record, but I won't be buying a new Mini if it gets to that.)

Hope your Saturday is going better...
 
Anyone know how to permanently remove the iCloud column in 12.2.2?

Since the latest release it appears on every playlist. Remove it from a playlist and it reappears next time you start iTunes...
 
Or perhaps iTunes is trying to say 'Here it is. Why did you have me search for it when it was right here'?
Negative. I just used the screenshot to show that iTunes doesn't see an album that DEFINITELY is in my library. But in 12.1 when I press Enter it finds the album anyway, in 12.2 nothing happens.

It would seem, to me, that that last guy they fired, the 'skeuomorphic' guy, kept their software more focused on functionality and ease of use. Now, all bets are off. iTunes is a mess. It's like a committee designed it, and no one said 'Hey, should we have done that?'
I fully agree. Especially because of three different UIs for My Music, Apple Music and iTunes Store. I also think it's ridiculous that there is no tab called "Apple Music". It's like with the Photos icon. When I installed it, I had to do a double take and click on things to find out where Apple Music hides. While by now I got used to New and For You (so used that I downgraded iTunes to get rid of them), this is not good practice.

And I still think that breaking iBooks out of the iTunes main app was pretty nutso idea. iTunes *should* be the front end for everything that you buy from Apple online. Who here, raise your hands please, thought that the iBooks weren't coming from the same servers that your movies, TV shows, and other content came from? OK, aside from the sleepy guy in the back, anyone else think that?
I think that they should split the app, but not this way. Either have one store where you can buy a book and a music download, and then separate iTunes, iBooks and iMovies for watching purchased content, or have separate Music, Videos and Books apps, each of them with store included in a tab. The way iTunes looks now is just confusing without the need to be.

OH, the biggest bitch I have with CDDB is the 'Compilations' category.

Case in point: WHO THE HECK THINKS THAT THE GUNS AND ROSES CD 'CHINESE DEMOCRACY' IS A 'COMPILATION'?
Oh the amount of times I ripped a CD then couldn't find it... because apparently it was a record by a band called Various Artists ;)

And my latest issue is that I rebuilt my Mac Mini. I downgraded it to Mavericks because it was getting flaky on Yosemite. It dropped off my network after the downgrade. SO, I reinstalled Mavericks from 'scratch'. And am copying my music and movies back over to it (I use it as a music server on our network), and I get an 'Error code -50'! I find that the drive dismounted on the Mini! I couldn't get it to mount again, so I restarted.
I had this problem with my backup drive and it turned out to be overheating. When you say you rebuilt your Mac Mini, did you do any hardware updates, like replacing the hard drive? Mine is a Toshiba, and after the experience I had I don't think I will be buying any Toshiba drives again...
 
Oh the amount of times I ripped a CD then couldn't find it... because apparently it was a record by a band called Various Artists ;)

Oh, and the infamous 'Unknown Artist' too. I remember running in to a few of those. That was when CDDB didn't have an entry for a particular CD. Then you either stop and enter the info right then, or you have to wade through a bunch of other tracks all labeled 'Unknown Track', or whatever... Yeah, FUN FUN FUN!

I had this problem with my backup drive and it turned out to be overheating. When you say you rebuilt your Mac Mini, did you do any hardware updates, like replacing the hard drive? Mine is a Toshiba, and after the experience I had I don't think I will be buying any Toshiba drives again...

Hmm... That could be. Anyone that hasn't had a Mini, is really missing out on things. It can get as hot as a hot plate. I think you could actually warm tea, or keep coffee warm, on one of them. And there IS a fan, but it's not the best, obviously...

I had thought about swapping the drive. I've got an old, never used 750 gb hybrid Seagate Momentus XT drive. But my history with Seagate drives hasn't been the best, and I don't want to have to get another drive to backup the Mini in case (when!) the Seagate hits the fan. Heat could be the issue. I also find it more reliable to copy files in Screen Sharing for some reason...

Thanks...
 
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I had this problem with my backup drive and it turned out to be overheating. When you say you rebuilt your Mac Mini, did you do any hardware updates, like replacing the hard drive? Mine is a Toshiba, and after the experience I had I don't think I will be buying any Toshiba drives again...

Well, the second hard drive just disappeared, again, twice, and now I can't get it back. Even terminal is no help.

I'm thinking that it's been cooked... :eek::( Guess I'll have to try the Seagate drive.

Just curious, but did anyone make a fan for the mini to help it stay cooler? I'd even be in favor of yanking the thermal sensor so that the fan runs 100% just to try to keep it cooler. Don't want to lose another drive... I'm going to let it cool off for a while and see if it comes back, but I'm thinking it's future is a life in the bin...
 
1. Go to My Music > Albums view
2. Enter unique artist/album into search field, example "Madonna rebel heart" or "Queen greatest hits" (obviously an album you own)
3. Press Enter
4. Curse

iTunes 12.2.1+, Mac OS 10.10.4+, checked on both macs in out household.

And now in the form of interpretive dance:

View attachment 575277
This is iTunes 12.1. As you can see, it also has problems. I entered "premiers symptomes air", which is visible on the left. The difference between 12.1 and 12.2: When I press enter in 12.1 this happens:

View attachment 575278

When I press enter in 12.2, nothing happens.

For many albums this is not a problem. If I'm looking for "Premiers Symptomes", "Under The Pink" or "Ommadawn", they will be found, and there's only one artist that uses this title. But with titles like "The Best", "Greatest Hits" or "Heart", it doesn't work in 12.2. So either I go through all "The Bests" in my library, or I go to, say, Janet Jackson and go through the 50 albums, singles and EPs that display.

And yes, I am aware someone will soon tell me that I am stupid to use a feature like that, I'm just lazy, Apple removed the feature for Very Important Reasons and if I don't like it I can switch to [some other music player].

I think you're really trying to over complicate things, just to complain about something that's really a non issue. You can type the artist into search or album name, it comes into the search pop up, click on the one you want or hit enter for all results and done.

shandyman, are you capable of comprehending that this is a feature that should work properly? Whether or not you personally find it important, it's important to other people. Your comment is like telling someone, if the playlist feature were broken, that he's "overcomplicating things," simply because you never use playlists.

When someone points out a bona fide bug, there's nothing helpful about telling him that he's the problem for identifying and mentioning the bug. If that bug doesn't affect you, why not simply stay out of the discussion?


navaira, you are absolutely correct:

There's a bug with searching for artist and album. However, it's an inconsistent bug. That is, while searching for some word combinations does work properly, searching for other word combinations does not.

For example, in Album view, when I search for "greatest," I get tons of results, among them the Greatest Hits for both Elton John and Billy Joel. But here's the thing:

- When I search for "greatest billy," iTunes does find the Billy Joel album.
- But when I search for "greatest elton," iTunes does not find the Elton John album.

This is a bona fide bug, and no one is "overcomplicating" anything by pointing it out.

I've submitted a report to Apple (with screenshots). I'd encourage anyone else who needs to search in this manner do the same. (From the Help menu, choose Send iTunes Feedback.)

EDIT: Actually, this bug is intermittent in the traditional sense. Because I just repeated the same, test searches, but this time, the BJ and EJ albums were both found. I'm gonna revise my bug report with Apple.
 
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shandyman, are you capable of comprehending that this is a feature that should work properly? Whether or not you personally find it important, it's important to other people. Your comment is like telling someone, if the playlist feature were broken, that he's "overcomplicating things," simply because you never use playlists.

It's not really a feature. It's a search method. Also, it's not broken or a bug. All Apple have done is changed it to simplify it. If you don't like it, deal with it. Or post feedback to Apple, but seeing as this doesn't really have that much an impact on the vast majority, you're SOL.
 
According to post #91 it works selectively. When my boyfriend goes away from his Mac I shall investigate, I've got 12.1 here where it always works.

I have a suspicion that it works when the CD features a song by the same name. Does "Compton" have a song with "Compton" in the title?
 
So I just had a check and I can't find any album/artist pair that iTunes 12.2.2 could find. But I had a thought. Is "Compton" an Apple Music offline album, iTunes purchase or CD rip?

soundsgoodtome, I'm going to try a few more times and submit feedback.
 
So I just had a check and I can't find any album/artist pair that iTunes 12.2.2 could find. But I had a thought. Is "Compton" an Apple Music offline album, iTunes purchase or CD rip?

soundsgoodtome, I'm going to try a few more times and submit feedback.
Compton is an iTunes store purchase. I'll do some more testing and see if I can replicate.

EDIT: Indeed there seems to be an inconsistent search bug. Apologies for not being able to replicate until now. It only occurs if you have Search Entire Library turned on, which is the first thing you should turn off on any iTunes install.

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@ErikGrim – thank you so much!!! I had no clue there was such an option. *updating to iTunes 12.2 again*

(Also, I'm going to check out GenErik The Viking, sounds interesting. Or is that your music unavailable anywhere else? :) )
 
Compton is an iTunes store purchase. I'll do some more testing and see if I can replicate.

EDIT: Indeed there seems to be an inconsistent search bug. Apologies for not being able to replicate until now. It only occurs if you have Search Entire Library turned on, which is the first thing you should turn off on any iTunes install.

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Wasn't this latest patch supposed to fix search issues in iTunes? I've always done things the hard way, scrolling through and such. I just started using search on the iOS desktop to start apps. Old dog, new tricks...
 
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