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not gonna do it.

I'm not gonna do it,

it seems this update doesn't really provide any benefit, and maybe makes the unit hotter?

maybe this is apples way of getting the bad units with GPU problems to break, finally come in for repair and get the liability OFF the balance sheet?

:)
 
some of us depend on our mbp for critical work away from home, and one of the reasons i chose a mac – in late 2007 – is because of quality hardware.

if apple is really trying to weed out the bad chips, i'd say it's a lousy way to go about doing it, because the failure can catch some of us at a really bad time. i run my backups regularly though, just in case it happens to me.

apple should simply allow us to bring it in to replace the defective parts if non-defective ones actually exist for certain.

of course, this is just a comment on a speculative theory anyway. :)
 
I just got a notice saying I need to update today. I'm unsure if I should. My Macbook specs are, 17inch Macbook pro...

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07
SMC Version: 1.16f8

Does anyone know if it will be worth installing it. I rarely here my fan turn on, it does get warm though I'm not sure on the temp. Is there a way to test the temp?
 
Macbook Pro SMC Firmware update 1.3

Macbook Pro SMC Firmware update 1.3 puts my computer into a crashing whore. I don't know why but ever since I did that my computer has become very temperamental giving me kernel crashes every 20 min or less. I just got it serviced for the graphics card going bad in it that could be it as well. Tried everything I could, all the usual resets. nothing.... Please help!:mad:
 
consensus?

So is the consensus to avoid this update? It comes up in my software update list so it seems to be appropriate for my SR 2.2. I've also noticed some erratic fan behavior at times and so was initially excited when I saw this update. But have waited given some of the consequences others have experienced. I should also mention that I have the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT and so wondered if some of the problems people have had are a consequence of having this card.

Has anyone had a good experience with this update and noticed some positive changes in fan behavior? :confused:
 
I haven't had any problems with this update. I doesn't make my computer crash or the framerate in my games go slower or anything like that. On the other hand I'm not seeing any benefits either.
 
I have a MBP 2.2 like previous people have mentioned. Unlike before, the fans are up and running almost all the time, too noisy, and temperatures are up by 15 degrees approximately. I can only speak for myself, but don't update. Really wonder what Apple are going to do about this.
 
Did anynone try to revert to SMC firmware to previous 1.27f1 version using Apple Restoration CD ? Unfortunately I can not see MBP 4,1 on support list to mentioned tool.

I also found interesting post by "evangellydonut": http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2020755&tstart=0

"no people, this is NOT a firmware problem.

Here's my setup: Macbook Pro 15", 2.4GHz Penryn from early 2008, all standard equipment except I swapped out the harddrive with a 200GB 7200RPM one right after I got the computer

Here's what happened: When installing SMC 1.3, a window came up to prompt for restart, blah, blah... after ignoring it for an hour, i rebooted via that window's "restart" button. After an hour, I was still at the initial screen, after the apple-logo, now it displays a circle with diagonal slash, and a spinning thingy underneath.

Here's what I did: I called apple support, pressed 0 for customer service, yelled at the guy 'til she xfer'd me to a technician, at one point, the customer service rep was like "sir, you don't need to yell," and I effectively told her to shove it. I was furious with the technician too, who gave me some bs about warranty, and I told him that since it's an Apple update they forcibly pushed out, they have legal liability. Eventually, he said it may still be covered under your hardware warranty, and made an appt for me with an Apple genius at the local Apple store for next day when the store opened.

Here's what I tried after I got off the phone with Apple:
1. tried the usual stuff like PRAM, SMC zap, nothing
2. tried apple firmware restore 1.4, nothing
3. tried bootcamp and voila - by holding down "Option" at boot, you are given the choice to boot into Mac OS or Windows. I have Vista SP2, and figured might as well try that. It worked, which proves that it's not really a "firmware" problem. (was going to see if it can boot from CD, but didn't really bother)
4. took it to the apple store, the genius held "apple + s" at boot, to get into single-user mode, and saw the OS hanging at one point
5. he then booted from a firewire HD, since we established the bootloader is still intact when I booted into Vista
6. He ran disk-utilities, nothing came up (obviously)
7. He ran a system point-restore, restoring the OS to 10.5.6 (he quoted 20 minutes, I went to get lunch and when I came back, it was done)
now the computer is happy
8. I've updated everything once again via Apple Update, this time, SMC1.3 did not show up at all.

A bit of background about me - I do hardware, firmware, and driver development by profession, so I think I'm qualified to provide a guess as to what and where it went wrong:
for any computer, there's the initial "bootloader," which is what we commonly refer to as "firmware," and on the PC side it's the BIOS. This establishes the very basics of your motherboard, like "there is a CPU at address 0x0000 0000 0000 0000, there is 2GB of memory at address 0x0001 0000 0000 0000 0000, there is PCIe, there is graphics, etc..." When this gets screwed up, only way to restore the computer is via some "backdoor," often meaning a JTAG port. Some PC Motherboard has dual BIOS to make sure the updated BIOS will work before you can flash it to the "permanent" memory.

Next stage is the BSP (board support package) stage. This establishes basic driver things like "you can use 'writeToHD' function call to write to harddrive" etc. This will setup all the IO interfaces (harddrive, PCIe, whatever). This is where the "SMC 1.3 firmware" is inserted and went wrong... Since this BSP is also responsible to provide higher-level interface calls to the Kernel/OS, Windows and Mac OS uses different BSPs and we can boot into one but not the other. (If you've installed Windows XP via CD, when you first load the CD, there's tons of basic drivers it goes through before you can install, that's this stuff)

Next stage is the kernel, the all famous unix-based one Apple uses, or the Vista kernel. This provides stuff like TCP/IP stack, Bluetooth stack, etc.

At the end of the day, the "real" firmware wasn't really involved. Usually, when a BSP is updated, the entire BSP has to be recompiled and the Kernel should be recompiled with the new libraries provided by the new BSP. During the BSP compilation process, someone probably forgot to test some configuration (be it different HD, extra RAM, or whatever) and released it, causing the problem. This kind of bug is unacceptable and should result in someone getting fired if you ask me. I worked in Satellites and airplanes, these kind of errors could cause either billions of dollars or even lives! Judging by the fact that I had a restored BSP/Kernel and SMC1.3 did not show up, my guess is that this happened to enough computers and Apple had to pull the update."
 
Has anyone found an answer to this problem yet - my MBP is still burning up after only 20 minutes of web browsing. Went to see a genius but he said it is perfectly normal and did nothing.
 
Has anyone found an answer to this problem yet - my MBP is still burning up after only 20 minutes of web browsing. Went to see a genius but he said it is perfectly normal and did nothing.

What a complete load of crap. I think you should print out this thread and go to the manager of the store and show it to him:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2020755&tstart=0

I'm having the same problem and I have talked to Apple both in US and in UK. They both claim that their engineers are aware of the problem and currently investigating the problem.
 
Ahh man - I hope apple come up with a fix for this soon - my battery life seems to be severely affected by this update also.

Thanks for the apple discussions thread monty ...
 
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