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Apple today released a pair of software updates, one for iWork '09 users and one for MacBook Pro users.

iWork '09 9.0.2 (42.8 MB) addresses issues with saving documents and Keynote.
This update improves reliability when saving some iWork documents and when playing some presentations more than once per Keynote session.
The update requires iWork '09 and OS X 10.4.11 or 10.5.6 or later.


MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update 1.3 (833 KB) addresses an issue with fan behavior on 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pros.
This SMC Firmware update adjusts the fan behavior in MacBook Pro systems (15-inch and 17-inch) when running under high workload conditions.
The update requires OS X 10.4.11 or 10.5.7, and Apple provides additional instructions for installing the update.

Article Link: Apple Releases iWork '09 9.0.2 and MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update 1.3
 

daneoni

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I'm very wary of the SMC update which is why i only installed the iWork out of the two
 

gr8tfly

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I'm very wary of the SMC update which is why i only installed the iWork out of the two

Wary and watchful here. I don't have any complaints on fan behavior whatsoever - the UB seems to be the coolest, and best behaved (fan speed wise) of any of my MBPs to date. I'm in the "wary - I'll wait and see" mode - especially since Software Update isn't showing it.

I suspect if I went ahead and manually downloaded the SMC update, it wouldn't install anyway.

(17" UB)
 

Aldaris

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"ALERT: This computer does not need this update"

Running on a 2.4 Ghz MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2008).

I wonder if it's just the newer models effected, as we had SMC updates previously.
 

Arkbear

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Jun 12, 2008
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MBP 15" 2.5 (early 2008) got the SMC update

I the SMC Firmware update got it on my early 2008 MPB 15" - No problems with the update. Took longer to go through the reboots than to actually apply it. Can't say that I've really done any high-stress computing since, so I haven't noticed any real change in temperature or fan action, though heat has never been a real big deal on this machine. The update appears not to break anything, surely.
 

doctoree

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Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not?
My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah.
I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts).
Doc
 

mrkgoo

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Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not?
My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah.
I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts).
Doc

That's a crazy conspiracy theory you got going there.

I installed the update. I have no idea if the fans are louder and/or faster than before.
 

rjheys

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Can someone with this update installed please make some test whether the Fans are louder and faster or not?
My early 08 MBP also found this patch and I assume it lets the fans run faster to delay the death of the GPU. It may be Apples stretegy to delay it long enough to make it fall outside of the guarantee coverage so they don't have to pay the repair. But that's a trap I'm not going to tap into, muahahah.
I'm still looking forward to a new laptop for free in two years, when Apple can't repair it any longer (due to missing parts).
Doc


I have an early 08 15" MBP, I just installed the update. I tried stressing my machine, exporting a full HD Quicktime file, and the update seems to let the machine get hotter before bumping up the fan speed. The fans usually start to spin up when it gets to about 70⁰c-75⁰c. But this time they stayed at 2000 rpm until the temp reached 87⁰c !!!!! and then slowly started speeding up. That is the hottest I have ever seen it get, nearly to hot to touch.
 

studiomusic

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I will never again update SMC firmware again unless I have problems intended to be fixed by said firmware.
The Mac Pro SMC firmware update last year turned my fans on full blast all the time. Just out of Applecare too.
 

Stridder44

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I have an early 08 15" MBP, I just installed the update. I tried stressing my machine, exporting a full HD Quicktime file, and the update seems to let the machine get hotter before bumping up the fan speed. The fans usually start to spin up when it gets to about 70⁰c-75⁰c. But this time they stayed at 2000 rpm until the temp reached 87⁰c !!!!! and then slowly started speeding up. That is the hottest I have ever seen it get, nearly to hot to touch.


Wow I am so not installing this update. Why would they start later? That's exactly what happens in Windows on a MBP. The fans don't kick in till they really need to, making the case very warm at all times. Is Apple retarded?
 

JavaWizKid

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Sep 18, 2008
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I have an early 08 15" MBP, I just installed the update. I tried stressing my machine, exporting a full HD Quicktime file, and the update seems to let the machine get hotter before bumping up the fan speed. The fans usually start to spin up when it gets to about 70⁰c-75⁰c. But this time they stayed at 2000 rpm until the temp reached 87⁰c !!!!! and then slowly started speeding up. That is the hottest I have ever seen it get, nearly to hot to touch.

Haha they could be deliberately killing the 8600 to repair it with a better one?
 

JavierP

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Wow I am so not installing this update. Why would they start later? That's exactly what happens in Windows on a MBP. The fans don't kick in till they really need to, making the case very warm at all times. Is Apple retarded?

The new max. temperature set point seems to be 80C, but the control action is slow and it does nothing 'til the set point is reached. So it overshoots 5C here (85C). I guess this is good for winter times.

I don't know why Apple did this change. The old 70C, 75C? max was better.
 

Stridder44

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The new max. temperature set point seems to be 80C, but the control action is slow and it does nothing 'til the set point is reached. So it overshoots 5C here (85C). I guess this is good for winter times.

I don't know why Apple did this change. The old 70C, 75C? max was better.


Haha they could be deliberately killing the 8600 to repair it with a better one?


Seriously, I don't understand this update. Apple, please explain.
 

KingYaba

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Aug 7, 2005
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I think I'll hold off on the firmware update. I use smc anyway so anything that works my CPU I'm manually changing the fanspeed beforehand.
 
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