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Apple Releases Leopard 9A557/9A559 Seed Update

If only I could...

If only I could.. I would tell you the answer to a lot of your questions..

If only I could.. I would tell you *wow* and *but..*

If only I could tell you ... I would tell you.. *betcha didn't know that*

October release? Man they must have some fierce coders there at Apple..
Then again, I code by myself but part of a small team, I can only estimate how long it would take us...

and lastly..

If I wasn't so tired right now.. maybe I would.. I mean, if I could.

:)
 
i have really enjoyed watching leopard come along through the development process. i am having 2 small issues (someone let me know if they are having the same)

1) When I change the volume or brightness, the on-screen volume control (normally a white sound icon with the small square boxes indicating volume or brightness level) show up as a huge white blob

2) I lost support for my external sound card. It worked initially and then just stopped functioning. It is an m-audio mobile pre usb!

otherwise iam really enjoying the interface as well as the power behind leopard. the new finder is worth it by itself. can't wait to see the finished product
 
tcoleman said:
Call me crazy, but I was wondering about the likelihood of an October 23 release. If you look at the Apple promos page, you will see that the current promotions expire on October 22, which is a Monday. Is that too convenient?
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I actually think that the 23rd might be very likely. I don't know anything, but it is a Tuesday, and I think it will be released on a Tuesday.
 
hotdamn said:
However, what an OS should bring, is a fresh new look, and frankly, Leopard looks, and I apologize in advance for this analogy, kind of like a roadkill kitty right now.
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Mac OS X 10.5 Free Cat?

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Don't know if this is anything significant, but I've just noticed the following on the Apple UK site: "Buy a Mac before October 30th, 2007, and a get a free iPod nano via mail-in rebate". Maybe a free iPod and Leopard is too much to offer, and it'll come out 30th/31st?

On another note, the UK store is currently down, though I guess they're adding the EA games lineup.
 
vertgo said:
At the same time, I'm afraid it will be like video conferencing in iChat now, which means you can't use it without opening up ports, which I can't do with my ISP (and most people won't want to do to just use iChat, especially with multiple computers behind a NAT router, which is in almost every household and office that I know of).
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Ummm... most current NAT routers will allow opening ports to specific IP addresses easily. So that should not really be an issue.
 
greenwrangler said:
Ummm... most current NAT routers will allow opening ports to specific IP addresses easily. So that should not really be an issue.
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Too add to this response, and more importantly the original comment.
Most homes do NOT use Network Address Translation (NAT), they use Port Address Translation (PAT). NAT is a one-to-one mapping of IP addresses, which defeats the purpose of using a router to split a single IP address assigned by a ISP to multiple computers. PAT allows for a one-to-many mapping, where "many" is typically limited by your router's limitations.

This allows you to make specific ports on a single external IP address route to an internal IP address/port combo. All your internal (or server processes) of iChat could be running on the same (default) port, while your external IP addresss could have a sequence of open ports, one routing to each computer inside. As long as the iChat client process can connect to an IP:port address, you'll be fine.
 
greenwrangler said:
Ummm... most current NAT routers will allow opening ports to specific IP addresses easily. So that should not really be an issue.
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Universal Plug And Play will open the ports up without having to specifically set up rules on the router. I already use software that does this via my router, I just have to have uPNP enabled at the router end.
 
Need to wrap it up Apple

Apple needs to wrap up development on Leopard very soon if they still plan to make the October ship date that Steve told us. We're in the beginning of the month, and it takes a little time to pick a GM candidate and get it to manufacturing. They've got slightly more than 4 weeks.

Hopefully Leopards release won't get pushed back even further. That would suck, but I doubt that will happen. We'll see.
 
Does anyone else think Apple is getting into porn?

They seem to be fluffing a lot recently.
 
I believe 10.5 was already released on October 1st at 00:00:01...

Apple has recently shifted their motto from THINK SECRET to SELL SECRET.
So start digging, because it's out there and you know it.
 
20-inch Cinema Display: 99 pixels per inch
23-inch Cinema Display: 98
30-inch Cinema Display: 102
20-inch iMac: 99
24-inch iMac: 94
MacBook: 113
15-inch MacBook Pro: 110
17-inch MacBook Pro: 117
17-inch MacBook Pro with optional 1920-by-1200: 133

Resolution independence would definitely benefit 17-inch MacBook Pros.
 
ct-scan:

In your opinion should NAT be disabled on a home network where the router is splitting one IP into six?

By having NAT disabled would it help or be detrimental to applications like iChat's video conferencing, P2P, streaming ?

Thanks for the info =)
 
vertgo said:
All of the great OS level changes that were supposed to come with Leopard are conspicuously absent. No ZFS and no resolution independent UI means that the two most revolutionary features with the most implications for the future of the platform are gone. The other things, Spaces, even time warp can be done as applications sitting on top of the OS (well time warp would require some kind of version control like svn but still,
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um no... i dont know if you have been playing with Time Machine (not warp you twit), but Time Machine is going to be the best feature of Leopard. It is a trully welcomed addition to their OS because it will really help in recovering information that is so easily lost nowadays... Spaces if you use it well and you dont have the budget to buy two or three extra Display Real Estate. It will save you from buying a 2nd or 3rd monitor.

ZFS is a different beast, and I see it very useful in the Server portion of their game. If they release it later on leopard, then even better. This is not a Switching reason... its a cool thing that will happen when it happens.


it's not nearly as great as having a display of incredible resolution that won't require that my old man eyes have to be 1 inch away from the screen).
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um for this, you don't need Leopard 10.5, nor lynx 10.6 nor Tabby Cat 10.9. He needs Lasik or better glasses. Better yet, I have seen on some fleamarkets around here, some big ass magnifying glasses you put in front of your display and they make it way BIGGER, unfortunately this is not a Software upgrade, more like a Hardware upgrade. But you get the picture.

Unless the surprise feature is an iPhone SDK, a crippled Leopard won't save apple from the whole bad decision iceberg that is smashing into their titanic.
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The surprise feature? oh that... yes i remember now... well yeah the surprise feature is a plush doll from Fake Steve Jobs, that when you pull the string it says some funny quotes like the following:

"Do you want to be a part of history, or you want to make sugar water for the rest of your life?"

"Namaste!"

"One more thing..."

"Siooma!"

and many others. It also uses USB 3.0 and Wifi to download new quotes and ringtones from the new iTunes 8.0.
 
arkmannj said:
I was going to ask if issues with CS3 ad gotten worked out, thanks for answering that for me :)

I've read several people claiming to have legal access testing 10.5, some saying it's ready to go out the door, some saying it's still got some bugs.

Some people saying let it be released and bugs can be dealt with via updates.

here's my opinion. If Leopard is all ready then by all means release it, but if it still has bug, take the time to flush them out. I know they will never catch all of the bugs, and we could well see 10.5.999. But when I have an original install disk in my hands I want to know that it is stable,workable and contains all the features (both user visible, and under the hood) even without needing to think about updates. I want Leopard right now as much as anyone else, there are some features in there that I am really looking forward to and will help me tons. but if it's to buggy to replace 10.4.10 then either they need to wait to ship it, or many of us need to wait to install it.

Sorry for the rant, long-story-short : I'd rather have fresh install disks that I can rely on released in early/mid November then a buggy "but-we'll-fix-it-in-an-update" version. But, if Leopard is ready to roll then bring on the goodness, so we can all go out, party and drink our sparkling_apple_cider. :)
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Just about the bugs. No OS or program is bugfree.
That's why we are waiting for 10.4.11 now...
At some point Apple will need to decide if it's stable enough for GM.
I think they will. But I also think they are already preparing a 10.5.1 update for the bugs.
But after the 10.5.1 update, there will be still bugs...
I think you understand my point ;-)
 
/dev/toaster said:
Odd thing is, I haven't needed it. Not sure if they are doing something different, but my machine under leopard runs much cooler then under tiger.
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Maybe in normal operations but I'm willing to bet the first time I fire up handbrake it going to get toasty. Under Tiger my temp easily get into the 150 range unless I rev up the fan.
 
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