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hmm... this update is really small:

The combo for 10.5.3 was 530MB
The combo for 10.5.4 is 554MB...

That's about 24MB of "extra" update...

I'm going to update and see if it breaks anything :D
 
pavvento said:
Um... Not to change the topic or get into forum grammar bashing, but if you're going to try and correct someone at least be right. Could have is the correct term, and could've is a contraption of that term.

Hello, pot... meet kettle! I believe the term you're looking for is "contraction."

Main Entry:
con·trap·tion
Pronunciation:
\kən-ˈtrap-shən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
perhaps blend of contrivance, trap, and invention
Date:
circa 1825
: device, gadget

Main Entry:
con·trac·tion
Pronunciation:
\kən-ˈtrak-shən\
Function:
noun
Date:
15th century
1 a: the action or process of contracting : the state of being contracted b: the shortening and thickening of a functioning muscle or muscle fiber c: a reduction in business activity or growth
2: a shortening of a word, syllable, or word group by omission of a sound or letter; also : a form produced by such shortening
 
Hello, pot... meet kettle! I believe the term you're looking for is "contraction."
Or in other words:

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well someones in a sour mood, you must be one of the people who have airport dropouts and can't appreciate the Brutal snappiness of safari :D
 
Or in other words:

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Contraption
Excetion

You people must be from down here in the south. I tried to teach someone how to use a voice recognition program one time. Yeesh. it kept getting hung up as he kept saying lak instead of like. I also worked with someone who said wand [like you are saying and with a w infront of it) when he ment wind (as in breeze, not the wind you do to a clock).

although i do laugh, the first versions of Red Hat Linux had redneck as a language to install.


http://www.ninesys.com/fun/
 
well someones in a sour mood, you must be one of the people who have airport dropouts and can't appreciate the Brutal snappiness of safari :D

Hahahaha... no, everything's working for me. If my Safari wasn't so snappy, I wouldn't be able to post so easily and quickly.

It just really annoys me when people get all self-righteous about things and, when they try to deliver their crushing blow, they turn out to be wrong. If you're going to try to cut someone down because they got something wrong, the least you can do is make sure you're right when you correct them.
 
well someones in a sour mood, you must be one of the people who have airport dropouts and can't appreciate the Brutal snappiness of safari :D


Not in a sour mood at all. I just don't find the same joke funny after it has been retold eight times a day for six months in a row. I'm sorry, but the "funniness" that some seem to experience with retelling that "joke" is something I really don't get.

Anyway, what's more interesting, is that you seem to insist that it's funny.


Shervieux,

I liked that link. They should have kept it as an option :D

P.S. I'm not from the South – I'm across the Atlantic from you (Denmark).
 
I was an early OSX adopter (the month it was released) and I've had more stability issues, crashes, Windows-esque slowing down, etc. in the past two years on this Macbook with 10.4 and 10.5 than I ever had on my old G4 tower. That thing was 455MhZ and ran Panther perfectly. I could count the number of times it crashed on me on one hand over the first 4-5 years.

I'm no fan of Adobe AIR, but I really do hope that Adobe leverages this technology to provide Linux or even BSD-based alternatives to Windows and it's new cousin Apple.

I wonder if many of these problems are hardware specific. What I mean is that this upgraded 1.8GHz 7448 G4 with 1.5GB ram running Tiger or Leopard seems pretty stable. So maybe it's the Intel hardware that's not stable with MacOSX? I've got a new graphics card coming (ATI 9800 Pro) at which point I should hopefully be able to more or less permanently move to Leopard as it's too slow on a Rage 128, whereas Tiger feels fine on it for non-3D use. Beyond that, I leave it running 24/7 (usually only rebooting to switch the OS or if an update requires it) and have had a total of 2 kernel panics in the past year that I've had it. I'd never be able to leave a Windows machine on like that.

The only major problem I've had with hardware is that this MSI bluetooth adapter I bought can't use headsets under Tiger (works fine in Leopard) and the file transfer function doesn't seem to work in Leopard (but works fine in Tiger). I do see some minor glitches on this Logitech 9000 web cam and I'm not sure if it's Apple's UVC driver or possibly it doesn't like my USB 2.0 card I added (Ultra PCI). I've got it connected to a Brother MFC-665CW network printer and the software and connection works fine. I transfer with a gigabit ethernet connection to my NetGear Gigabit Draft N router and my PC is also Gigabit so they share files quickly (hard drives are limiting factor there, not the network connection; I can get up to 70MB/sec; I usually average around 35-45). I've got a Sata PCI card which runs two 500GB drives and they work fine under OS9, Tiger and Leopard. I replaced the Apple keyboard and mouse with a Logitech and Dynex model, respectively and they both work great. I've got an Airport Express connected as a 2nd B/G/N network and it works fine with my Ipod Touch, etc. I've got two AppleTV units in the house and neither have any trouble connecting to either the Airport Express or the NetGear router and iTunes never drops them (I use the NetGear one normally as it's faster in testing and so I made it N only) . I added (well replaced the stock CD-R drive) a Pioneer 18x DVD-RW drive and it's worked fine under Tiger and Leopard and does most functions under OS9 as well. I put an internal USB 2.0 / Firewire Hub in the PowerMac where the Jaz drive once was and it works fine off that internal USB 2.0 card and using one of the Firewire ports on the back. My Canon A590 Digital Camera connects fine using Apple's own Image Capture software (the software Canon provided locked up on me; it seems buggy, but Apple's works fine with it and automatically recognizes it under both Tiger and Leopard). I plugged a Targus USB 2.0 card reader in that I picked up for $10 at Walmart and tried the camera's SD card in it and it works fine under both Tiger and Leopard. I can also use my printer's card reader across the network using the FireFTP extension in Firefox. These Klipsch THX sub/sat speakers sound great using the standard headphone output jack on the back. I can broadcast Airtunes from either the Mac or PC to my AppleTV units on the other side of the house top and bottom floor with a slight drop of audio once in a blue moon, but pretty rare. HD movies are ready to play on AppleTV in less than 2 minutes and work fine. Their X11 implementation and support could be better. I've had a few nags there talking to Linux via SSH (X used to work over the network but stopped when I updated Linux to a newer build; now it works exporting TO Linux but won't take incoming X apps FROM Linux). Overall, the Bluetooth issue (which would probably go away if I bought a DLink adapter instead) is the only really irritating problem I've had that appears to be OSX's fault.
 
Downloaded
installed restarted
waited waited waited
hard boot
waiting waiting waiting
waiting
grey apple screen
waiting waiting
blue screen wait some more
wait some more ...
finally a login screen
poof everything runs slow.

restart
same deal

I'm switching back to 10.5.3

That's how installs work, some of it is done during the multiple restarts so restarting longer than usual. If it's running slower initially, it's probably because of spotlight indexing or similar one time things. After a couple minutes it should be fast as ever.

And I really hope you're not reverting an OS update because of one slow reboot, that would be incredibly dumb.
 
Disappointment

I ran this update this morning on my iMac 2.4ghz 1gig ram, 20inch... the model prior to the recent update. For some reason my mouse (mighty mouse) no longer scrolls down. :(
 
Shervieux,

I liked that link. They should have kept it as an option :D

P.S. I'm not from the South – I'm across the Atlantic from you (Denmark).

On a sad note...
I blame it on the school system really....

When both my wife and I went to school, our school systems taught that "at least" is one word (atleast) so spell checker often highlights it as wrong. I got so fed up one day I chose to add it to my dictionary. :p I also come across a few other things I leaned in school that was wrong.

Here in the US, we have a TV show called "Are you smarter than a 5th grader" that pins people against 5th graders. it is hosted by a guy named Jeff Foxworthy who does all those "you might be a redneck" jokes. Some of the questions listed as 3rd grade math we were not doing until the 6th grade when I was in school....

you want to be fustrated, try sitting in the middle of a conference call with a Hindu Indian on one end and a person from Belgium on the other - both trying to explain technical issues in English to a bunch of southerners. a 1 hr conference call and we only covered the first 2 points on the agenda....

and of course with me being original from the north (New England), we have our own dialect and speak a million miles an hour.
 
Well - Safari is broken. Scrolling up and down complex pages ( such as this thread ) I get ripping and tearing in the rendering of the page. I also get ripping and artifacting as a large jPG downloads.

Never ever happened before 10.5.4 last night.

Doug
 
Safari works OK in Tiger here so far. But I just tried that updated Airport utility and it cannot locate my Airport Express 802.11N unit (even though it's running and operating just fine and has been for months). The previous version never had any trouble locating it.

Ok, I just tried Airport Utility in 10.5.3 and it found it just fine and updated the firmware. I don't know what Tiger's problem is all the sudden. I find it odd how Apple manages to break things along the way with their 'bug fixes'. I'll now try the 10.5.4 update.

Safari looks fine in 10.5.4 also, but then I don't use smooth scrolling so that might affect things on others' machines. Bluetooth still won't do file transfers with my MSI USB dongle under Leopard, even though it works in Tiger. :(
 
Contraption
Excetion

You people must be from down here in the south. I tried to teach someone how to use a voice recognition program one time. Yeesh. it kept getting hung up as he kept saying lak instead of like. I also worked with someone who said wand [like you are saying and with a w infront of it) when he ment wind (as in breeze, not the wind you do to a clock).

although i do laugh, the first versions of Red Hat Linux had redneck as a language to install.


http://www.ninesys.com/fun/

They mean execution.
 
What noise issue? I bought an AL iMac within a week of their release, and I have been impressed with how silent it runs.

Ditto here...it's simply AMAZING how silent it is...sometimes I don't even know if it's on or asleep with the screen off...and ANYTHING running on it, from normal apps to demanding games, has absolutely no effect on noise levels.
 
Safari

I was talking with a buddy of mine and he said this update was to fix the memory leak that Safari has.. Can anyone confirm this..??


James
 
Well - Safari is broken. Scrolling up and down complex pages ( such as this thread ) I get ripping and tearing in the rendering of the page. I also get ripping and artifacting as a large jPG downloads.

Never ever happened before 10.5.4 last night.

Doug

Well, what do you know? Safari snapped.
 
This update has given me all sorts of issues.

I've had two Kernel Panics today, one yesterday and several volume-control lockups (the volume just keeps increasing or 'popping' when at max, followed by a Kernel Panic). Safari has crashed on me several times, as has Adium and iChat.

iTunes still locks up when I go to play a song every now and then, and on top of that, my MBP looks to be faulty. Spits out blank CDs/DVDs, and keeps locking up the keyboard/trackpad (often not fixed by a restart, just fixes itself).
 
No issues on my Mac Pro (see signature). Been going since yesterday. Pretty much nothing noticeably different. Everything works just as great as it always has on this machine.

iBook is next (when I get time).
 
I find it entertaining* the number of people that missed the intended sarcasm.
I don't know how anyone with 1,350+ posts in these forums, could miss the blatant sarcasm. Then again, people are still missing the increasingly annoying "Safari is snappier" or "G5 Powerbooks next Tuesday" gags.

Anyway... updates to the OS?
Neat!



* enough to post.

I am glad that you find entertainment in such petty issues.
I guess it matches well with your idea of comparing post count with your actual comprehension of a post that was an utter mess in getting its sarcastic point across, however well intended.

I think the reason why the 'Safari snappayh' posts are being ignored is because that joke is getting older than the crust in my underwear, while the previous poster's sarcasm was easily confused with an actual misconception regarding Macintosh updates and iPod updates, which in turn was corrected in a constructive manner by several members with said post count (me included).

Do you find it entertaining still?
 
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