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My black Macbook C2D had the big install plus HP printer driver update 2.1 for my HP PSC 2210 driver. The white CD Macbook in my household had only the 9 MB update and no HP update even though both computers use the same printer. I think I installed the HP driver when I installed SL on my black book. :confused: My black book is a little more customized than the white one, nothing special except Perian and Glimmerblocker though.
 
In HFS+ systems there should be hardly any reason to ever defragment. I seriously doubt that a measurable performance difference can be discerned unless you are running on incredibly low disk space. I do tons of compiling under OS X which in theory should lead to tons of fragmentation issues with itty bitty files being created and destroyed over and over. Yet I am not seeing any degradation in compile time as the system ages. I am confident that most people who defragment do so without actually determining the true issue that is slowing their computer down.

Let the PC system admins waste their time defragmenting. It's all they know how to do anyway...

Since you didn't mention what type of Macs you're using, I'll take your word.
Keep in mind though, I'm talking about much older hard drives. I even have Leopard installed on some G4s, so I can definitely see a difference depending on how old the Mac is. The most noticeable difference after defragmenting that I tend to see is faster boot times.
 
awesome! updates to Snow Leopard are fine by me.

although im a bit late to the game installing (well for MacRumors) i saw a post on MacTalk.com.au saying that the Australian Apple retail stores where installing the dev build of 10.6.1 10B504 on all the computers as it may have no known issues, so i knew the update would come very soon.
 
Hooray, my MacBook no longer goes to sleep on its own - again. Dammit Apple, I just fixed this the day after I installed Snow Leopard, and now I have to go through the troubleshooting all over again.
 
Mac mini late 2006 I believe. Core duo 1.66 cd burner 2gb ram 60gb hd.

Just installed snow on top of regular without the snow. More snappy and even my desktop photo looks brighter and more crisp.

And it also asked for 10.6.1. in software update so I went ahead and did it. Only 9.8mb. Have not tried my dads mackbook pro yet. That will be next.

Just think... A $3300 QUAD-CORE 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5 with a 250GB SATA hard drive & a 16X DVD-R that was for sale around the same time cannot even run Snow Leopard at all and will probably never get any of these bug fixes and optimizations to their $129 copy of regular Leopard.
And that's the same price that INTEL users paid!

Go Figure.​

Reminds me of when Steve Jobs arrogantly put MacOS 9 in a coffin to make a PR statement.
And now this past year, he almost ended up in one himself sadly.

Karma maybe? No, I don't believe in that myself.

But I do think Apple is screwing over a significant number of its loyal customers.
 
Still under test mode

I'm still running 10.6, now 10.6.1 on a different drive partition than which I run 10.5.8. So far 10.6 seems to be slower than 10.5.8. I'm running this on a 1st gen 3 GHz Intel Mac Pro with 13 GB of Ram, 2 1.5 TB HD & 2 WD 150 GB drives in a RAID 1 that I use as my normal 10.5.8 boot drive. I'm currently running under a 10.5.8 partition on one of the 1.5 TB drives. I was having browser problems & in the update process the computer switched start-up drives back to my normal setup. This was even though the system was set to start-up from the updated 10.6.1.

Tomorrow I will test again. Even with the more minor changes made in 10.6 it seems as if it may be 10.6.2 or 10.6.3 before it will be ready to take over running my Intel Mac. I still may not change as I like to run all of my Macs under the same OS, 10.5.8.

I'll be listening & watching here to see what problems people are having. I make my living running my business using Excel 11, aka Excel 2004. For that reason I have to run Rosetta.
 
Looking at the bom ought to offer some hints as to the size differences. Something like (in terminal):

Code:
lsbom -flbc -p sf /private/var/db/receipts/com.apple.pkg.update.os.10.6.1.bom | sort -nr -k1,1

My update was 75.1MB for my Macmini3,1; I had installed iTunes 9 and the latest Flash plugin a day before 10.6.1 was released.

The top 10 largest components in my case:
Code:
45340400	./System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
13972240	./System/Library/Extensions/GeForce8xxxGLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/GeForce8xxxGLDriver
13926560	./System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelGMAX3100GLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/AppleIntelGMAX3100GLDriver
13898128	./System/Library/Frameworks/Message.framework/Versions/B/Message
13611232	./Library/Internet Plug-Ins/Flash Player.plugin/Contents/MacOS/Flash Player
12440544	./System/Library/Extensions/GeForce7xxxGLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/GeForce7xxxGLDriver
8968384	./System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeonX2000GLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/ATIRadeonX2000GLDriver
7944096	./System/Library/Extensions/GeForce8xxxGLDriver.bundle/Contents/MacOS/libclh.dylib
7512896	./Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
6843584	./usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib

FWIW my Mini had SL cleanly installed.
 
Just think... A $3300 QUAD-CORE 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5 with a 250GB SATA hard drive & a 16X DVD-R that was for sale around the same time cannot even run Snow Leopard at all and will probably never get any of these bug fixes and optimizations to their $129 copy of regular Leopard.
And that's the same price that INTEL users paid!

Go Figure.​

Reminds me of when Steve Jobs arrogantly put MacOS 9 in a coffin to make a PR statement.
And now this past year, he almost ended up in one himself sadly.

Karma maybe? No, I don't believe in that myself.

But I do think Apple is screwing over a significant number of its loyal customers.

Could you please shut it.

Who cares about you. Your hardware is outdated. Let me spell that out for you: O U T D A T E D.

That's what you get with three year old hardware, especially in the computer world. You cannot expect to still get support for such an ancient piece of technology.

OS X 10.6 isn't that revolutionary and you'll be good to go with Leopard. There are more people having problems with 10.6 than with 10.5.8 so consider this before you take another pill.
 
Could you please shut it.

Who cares about you. Your hardware is outdated. Let me spell that out for you: O U T D A T E D.

That's what you get with three year old hardware, especially in the computer world. You cannot expect to still get support for such an ancient piece of technology.

OS X 10.6 isn't that revolutionary and you'll be good to go with Leopard. There are more people having problems with 10.6 than with 10.5.8 so consider this before you take another pill.

Hey man, lighten up, three years isn’t that long. I just got my MacBook two years ago, and the idea of support for it being completely dropped in one more year seems harsh. We can’t all afford to run out and buy a new MBP every time Apple announces an update.

Just think... A $3300 QUAD-CORE 2.5 GHz PowerMac G5 with a 250GB SATA hard drive & a 16X DVD-R that was for sale around the same time cannot even run Snow Leopard at all and will probably never get any of these bug fixes and optimizations to their $129 copy of regular Leopard.
And that's the same price that INTEL users paid!

Go Figure.​

Reminds me of when Steve Jobs arrogantly put MacOS 9 in a coffin to make a PR statement.
And now this past year, he almost ended up in one himself sadly.

Karma maybe? No, I don't believe in that myself.

But I do think Apple is screwing over a significant number of its loyal customers.

As for you, calm down. You’re not screwed. You’re not missing out on that much. Snow Leopard is basically the same thing as Leopard to the user. A tweak here, a minor fix there (and at this point, more bugs than Leopard, although it’s been smooth for me). But moving back to Leopard wouldn’t phase me, because as far as I, the user, am concerned, it’s almost exactly the same. And Leopard is a very powerful and stable OS as it is. Just because you can’t use SL doesn’t mean that suddenly your Leopard is falling apart.

Just trust me, I like Snow Leopard, but you’re not really missing out on all that much. Now enjoy your rock-solid, powerful, and very stable OS.
 
I doubt it will, but I hope it fixes my iTunes 9 issue. Every time I open up iTunes 9, I get the Firewall prompt that asks me to either "Allow" or "Deny" it incoming network connections. I click "Allow", but it still prompts me. I also checked my Firewall settings and iTunes is in there.

I have tried reinstalling iTunes 9. I don't have Little Snitch or any other network monitor running. Hmmmm.
Little Snitch happens to have a mind of its own - the only way that I was able to eliminate the prompts, which run in the background regardless of whether you are running LS or not, was to locate the LS uninstaller, which is supplied with the installation package - LPITA
 
The font smoothing for 3rd party monitors is still not working. Seems like a rushed update to me, get the most complained about stuff working first and then work on a 10.6.2 release for next month.
 
Hey man, lighten up, three years isn’t that long. I just got my MacBook two years ago, and the idea of support for it being completely dropped in one more year seems harsh. We can’t all afford to run out and buy a new MBP every time Apple announces an update.

No, but HyperZboy’s particular Power Mac model was introduced after Apple announced the switch to Intel processors. He knew the writing was on the wall before he even purchased it (it was introduced in October of 2005 and discontinued in August of 2006, the Intel switch was announced in June of 2005), yet he continues to spew about Snow Leopard being incompatible with PPC Macs in multiple threads.

It’s getting old. Apple supported PPC in their operating systems for some 50 months (4 years, 2 months, 22 days) after announcing their switch to Intel. That’s a fair amount of time. It’s time to move on.
 
No, but HyperZboy’s particular Power Mac model was introduced after Apple announced the switch to Intel processors. He knew the writing was on the wall before he even purchased it (it was introduced in October of 2005 and discontinued in August of 2006, the Intel switch was announced in June of 2005), yet he continues to spew about Snow Leopard being incompatible with PPC Macs in multiple threads.

It’s getting old.

I’ll agree that he’s overreacting…a lot. But I disagree with the idea that a three year old computer is ancient.
 
Wow! Blew some dust out of my iMac vents and it seems to be running so much faster and Safari doesn't crash anymore! :D

Reminds me of the time my boss's workstation kept crashing then one day, wouldn't boot. So I, being a few thousand miles away at the moment, suggested he open it up, take the power supply unit outside and blow dust out of it (but not to open it up).

He looked at me like I was crazy. "You pulling my leg?" "No, sir. Just a hunch." "Huh. OK..."

10 minutes later, he was shaking his head. "I'll be darned. Booting now." Didn't crash again after that, either. :D

He also mentioned his PSU was apparently the home to an entire family of dust bunnies, too. ;)
 
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