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I guess we all can agree that the two OSes are about equal in this regard which is actually quite sad. The OS X claim to fame is that it is designed with very few computer models in mind and as such is supposed to be more stable and safe. It is not. Then what you get is an OS with a very limited choice of [overpriced] hardware and no advantages to speak of.

Nope, I can't agree that you can judge how "stable and safe" an OS is by the schedule of updates. Especially when the vast majority of bugfixes are cosmetic issues (for either OS).
 
I have a mid 2009 MBP 13" 8gig ram 500GB HD. All was perfectly fine before the doing the update...

***Update as I typed on my Win7 computer it crashed again.***

Any thoughts would be great. I don't have Time Machine running so not an option. If I can downgrade back to 10.6.4 successfully or attempt to reinstall again as a solution let me know.


I am attaching the last kernel panic report that was sent to Apple.

Thanks for any assistance

If you are using wireless, try disabling your wireless and using a hard wired connection.
 
Mac updates....

Well nothing is perfect... but my Widoze machine at work auto-loaded it's fixes last night and now my machine is totally screwed up!

NEVER had that big a problem with a Mac update... Just sayin:eek:
 
Mail Rules extending off screen... still broke

Since OSX 10.4 (2005) Mail has this repeatedly confirmed, by Apple representatives, problem.

Mail/Preferences/Rules/edit Add 25 or more rules and the rules window will extend off the bottom of the screen, taking the control buttons out of view off the bottom of the screen.

Again an upgrade to OSX has been issued that listed Mail as one of the focal points. Yet this simple problem falls through the cracks.

Do the steps.. report the problem. Problems tend to clump, so this problem can be part of another issue. Why not get it fixed?
 
If you are using wireless, try disabling your wireless and using a hard wired connection.

Bit, what am I accomplishing by switching to hardwire? If your suggesting that to download the v10.6.5 from Apple then I'm already in the process of using another machine to download it and i will transfer it to the mac via usb drive. Long term hard wire would not be a viable solution.


Is there a way to downgrade back to 10.6.4?
 
Do you know what a service pack is? It is the culmination of all previous security and maintenance updates plus other additions. XP has 3 of them...

And XP has been around almost 10 years!

The point I'm trying to make is the vast majority of updates for Win 7 are security related - there seems to be an inordinate amount of glaring bugs in SL that frankly should not still be popping up for a product that's been released for so long.
 
And XP has been around almost 10 years!

The point I'm trying to make is the vast majority of updates for Win 7 are security related - there seems to be an inordinate amount of glaring bugs in SL that frankly should not still be popping up for a product that's been released for so long.

As an IT Professional I have to tell you that you are mistaken. Windows has many bugs and every month there are many updates that correct these problems. It is very normal for every software on this world to have issues. Nothing is perfect.
 
And XP has been around almost 10 years!

The point I'm trying to make is the vast majority of updates for Win 7 are security related - there seems to be an inordinate amount of glaring bugs in SL that frankly should not still be popping up for a product that's been released for so long.


In the year I have been a Mac convert I have been virus free. I don't even have any anti-virus software installed.

On the flip side, I witnessed a client have their XP Pro laptop hosed by viruses in less than 12 hours after I wiped the hard drive clean.
 
As an IT Professional I have to tell you that you are mistaken. Windows has many bugs and every month there are many updates that correct these problems. It is very normal for every software on this world to have issues. Nothing is perfect.

Then you might want to consider a new career. :rolleyes:

Win 7 had two DST updates, one in Sep, one in May, and two reliability updates, one in Apr and one in Jan which consisted of a grand total of seven fixes! Everything else has been security updates.
 
Then you might want to consider a new career. :rolleyes:

Win 7 had two DST updates, one in Sep, one in May, and two reliability updates, one in Apr and one in Jan which consisted of a grand total of seven fixes! Everything else has been security updates.

What I am saying is that every software has issues. Every line of code can cause issues! If you don't understand that you are either stupid or just ignorant.
 
What I am saying is that every software has issues. Every line of code can cause issues! If you don't understand that you are either stupid or just ignorant.

And what I am saying is that SL has an inordinate amount of bugs - especially considering all the hoopla as to how much work had gone into it focusing on core aspects of the OS instead of on shiny new features!
 
Well so far so good. I waited for the combo release late last night and downloaded it at the office on fiber. Brought it home and installed it on my iMac and MBP. Then I went to sleep being it was late for me. Got up and started using both machines and so far I have noticed:

:apple: Boot time on both are noticeably faster. iMac took 40.2 seconds from cold boot to login screen. I didn't time the MBP though.

:apple: Time it took from logging on to system ready to use was faster than before.

:apple: RAM usage looks to be managed better as I am now using less RAM overall.

:apple: Safari seems to be using about a quarter of the RAM as before. So far anyway; I'll see how that goes after I've had it running for a while. 134MB right now. Before it was in the 400MB range.

:apple: No glitches or bugs of any kind that I can notice.

Kudos on a good release!
 
And what I am saying is that SL has an inordinate amount of bugs - especially considering all the hoopla as to how much work had gone into it focusing on core aspects of the OS instead of on shiny new features!

I didn't have single issue with Snow Leopard. It works very stable on my Mac Pro and very fast. I am happy with it. Software will always have problems.
 
Off question, but is there any chance you were running dual monitors on the Mac and only one with the Windows OS? The reason I ask is that I loose about the same percentage when running dual 1920 X 1200 vs. just one monitor at 1920 X 1200.


Hi

Not at all : HD 5770 with 2 monitors Win 7 and MacOS :

mon1 : 1920x1200 DVI
mon 2 : 1280x720 (720p) HDMI


If you look at the official OpenGL Database for Cinebench 11.5
its just the same story.

best Win7 results : 88,15 fr.
best Macresults : 45,1 fr.

you will find no Mac computer in the first 50 ranks ....


OpenGL Drivers for Win 7 have support for OpenGL 4.0
OpenGl Drivers for MacOS 10.6.5 have support for OpenGl 2.1

OpenGl 2.1 was released (8/2/2006)

Its getting ridiculous , isn´t it Mr. J$bs ?

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First Mac 1989 - last Mac Pro 2008 -
 
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Bit, what am I accomplishing by switching to hardwire? If your suggesting that to download the v10.6.5 from Apple then I'm already in the process of using another machine to download it and i will transfer it to the mac via usb drive. Long term hard wire would not be a viable solution.


Is there a way to downgrade back to 10.6.4?

I think the built in airport is crashing your machine.
 
And what I am saying is that SL has an inordinate amount of bugs - especially considering all the hoopla as to how much work had gone into it focusing on core aspects of the OS instead of on shiny new features!

If you really believe that, then GTFO and use a Windows PC instead. Don't be such a hypocrite, complaining about how this product sucks and has so many bugs and problems but using it anyway. Actions are stronger than words.
 
vast majority of updates for Win 7 are security related

Funny, before you said that ALL updates so far were security related. Nice backpedal there.

And again, insistence that more frequent updates = more bugs. But that just doesn't make logical sense.

Then you might want to consider a new career. :rolleyes:

Win 7 had two DST updates, one in Sep, one in May, and two reliability updates, one in Apr and one in Jan which consisted of a grand total of seven fixes! Everything else has been security updates.

You missed the one in october 2009 (even though it was pointed out earlier in the thread). Next time maybe check your facts before scolding.

And what I am saying is that SL has an inordinate amount of bugs...

Which you have provided no evidence for other than 10.6 having five bugfix updates compared to three in W7. And isn't W7 supposed to be a fixed up version of the last OS instead of one with lots of new features?

All software (particularly an OS) has bugs, but the vast majority are either tiny or things that only a small fraction of users will encounter.
 
If you really believe that, then GTFO and use a Windows PC instead. Don't be such a hypocrite, complaining about how this product sucks and has so many bugs and problems but using it anyway. Actions are stronger than words.

I am confused. Are you saying that people should not discuss OS X problems on this forum?
 
Just checking.

Has anyone's computer bust into flames or had large numbers of flying monkeys come out of the screen after installing 10.6.5? I am thinking about upgrading today, but I want to upgrade the fire and flying monkey suppression system first if there are any issues.
 
MacBook Air Late 2010 still freezing after update

Had been crossing my fingers that this update would fix my new MacBook Air. My system has been one of the ones that freezes at completely random times and leaves me with a blank white or purple screen. Only fix was to hold down the power button to turn the system off and then restart. System was freezing like that once or twice for every three or four hours of use.

Bad news. The update didn't fix it. It's already frozen / locked up again - just a couple hours into use after the update. It's a big bummer since this was my move from PC to Mac - jumping in full boat - I don't even want to know how much time I've put into setting this computer up and transferring everything over - 20+ hours. I will be using this for both home and business so I have a ton of programs loaded, a Boot Camp partition running Windows 7 and all.

As soon as I this problem started (which was right away - even before I set up Boot Camp) I began to worry and almost stopped all of the set up and transfer. But Apple Care and Genius support all reassured me that a fix was on the way that would correct this problem. I kept saying "I don't have the screen flickering problem that's fixed by closing the lid, waiting 10 seconds and reopening the lid - my system freezes - dead - solid white or solid purple screen". But they said I should be fine, keep moving ahead with using it and the fix is on the way.

Now it looks like I'll need to replace this brand new MBA. I know they will replace it, but that's not a big deal - all of the time I've spent setting this up is what I'm bummed about. They've told me they will transfer everything over from the bad computer - even that scares me a bit. One Genius thought they couldn't transfer over the Boot Camp setup so I'll need to redo that whole process (but another told me they could completely replicate the entire computer). I almost want to start fresh again just to be safe.

I've been Googling to see if anyone else has continued to have this problem after installing the update, but can't find any.
 
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