It's been fine for me on my late 09 mini going from 10.6.4. Growl is busted in Mail but I didn't use that anyway. I have yet to update my iMacs.
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It's been fine for me on my late 09 mini going from 10.6.4. Growl is busted in Mail but I didn't use that anyway. I have yet to update my iMacs.
No he and others like Milo et al are saying that you can only come on here if you're a diehard fanboy. The idea of having a contrary opinion is akin to blasphemy in their eyes.
It doesn't matter that some of us who have been using Macs since the Mac Plus (unlike I'm sure the vast majority of said fanboyz) and hold Apple to a higher standard have become somewhat disenfranchised with the direction they are heading lately, increasing QA problems, boneheaded business decisions etc. etc.
Now excuse me because apparently I'm supposed to GTFO.
No he and others like Milo et al are saying that you can only come on here if you're a diehard fanboy. The idea of having a contrary opinion is akin to blasphemy in their eyes.
It doesn't matter that some of us who have been using Macs since the Mac Plus (unlike I'm sure the vast majority of said fanboyz) and hold Apple to a higher standard have become somewhat disenfranchised with the direction they are heading lately, increasing QA problems, boneheaded business decisions etc. etc.
Now excuse me because apparently I'm supposed to GTFO.
No business will do everything you want. I own my own business and I make decisions that I don't like. Apple is doing quite well. You don't make too many boneheaded decisions and have the sucess Apple has.
I am not happy with the QA issues that Apple has had. I don't see a way Apple could have avoided them while moving at the pace they do. When Apple has an issue, it is quite often blown well out of proportion. One example is the iP4 and the death grip. Yes, some people had issues. Most got better performance than the iP3.
People absolutely should discuss specific issues on this forum. But vague "X has tons of bugs, Y has hardly any" platform wars are worthless trolling.
Hold it there, cowboy. You don't get to call people names when you're the one trolling with the MS cheerleading and misinformation. Pot, there's a kettle you need to meet...
The only reason I even responded to your post was to correct your factual errors. Which by the way you've ignored and hoped nobody would notice, better distract people with some name calling too...
What part of majority did you miss? I didn't say ALL.
I only went back as far as January as that adequately proved my point. Seven non-security fixes for Win 7 this year, compared to how many for SL?
And isn't SL supposed to be a fixed up version of Leopard?
Not once did I say otherwise. But based on the responses of a number of posters on here they must all belong to that small fraction you speak of.
Ultimately people either agree with my assertion that SL has an inordinate amount of bugs or they don't. Some on here do, a number don't. That's fine. People telling me to GTFO and calling me a troll is uncalled for.
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I just uploaded it today, too.
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Safari is now so slow I've been moving Tabs to some of the Other browsers I use. EVERYTHING is now slower. Normally I have 5 Tabs opened in Safari. But I am so [Censored] tired of seeing that stupid spinning ball I've moved some of my critical tabs to Chrome. I have 4 Tabs currently opened in Firefox. I may move more there; the slowdown hasn't hit it as hard as it hit Safari. And I'm typing this post in Opera.
Whatever they did, It Did Not Work.
Oh, yeah. What I did a couple of decades ago:
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Start 30 seconds of pure Army Cuss words I learned Once Upon A Time.
Safari is now so slow I've been moving Tabs to some of the Other browsers I use. EVERYTHING is now slower. Normally I have 5 Tabs opened in Safari. But I am so [Censored] tired of seeing that stupid spinning ball I've moved some of my critical tabs to Chrome. I have 4 Tabs currently opened in Firefox. I may move more there; the slowdown hasn't hit it as hard as it hit Safari. And I'm typing this post in Opera.
Whatever they did, It Did Not Work.
Oh, yeah. What I did a couple of decades ago:
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp263/Ironic-Mike/Jumping Pics/C-13001.jpg
I've had it on my hackintosh for most of the day today and so far things have been fairly solid. No major issues or complaints.
Likewise on my mac mini. Safari, mail, various apps are running as they normally do. I've not noticed any performance degradation or ram consumption. Both problems that seem to be reported over at the apple discussion forums.
Likewise on my mac mini. Safari, mail, various apps are running as they normally do. I've not noticed any performance degradation or ram consumption. Both problems that seem to be reported over at the apple discussion forums.
Worked okay for me. I use headphones throughout the day on my iMac 3.06Ghz Core Duo and I've noticed something strange. You occasionally hear a pop in the headphones. Similar to plugging them into a computer that is turned on while wearing them. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing....
A 2-sec search on Google gave me this; you may try to do the same thing next time before asking such questions:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=DiskUtility/10.5/en/duh17.html
Check Macworld's article on this...just Google it and you'll find all relevant answers.
I'm using a mac pro with the new 10.6.5, I hear a strange pop in my ear buds as well. Actually feels like a shock.
Was wondering if it's not the buds . I don't hear it (or feel it) in my Bose phones.
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I'm just using some random behind the headphones made by phillips. Never had this problem before. I reset the PRAM thinking that might fix it, but like 2 minutes into the reboot I heard the weird noise again, too.
I'm just going to ignore it. Even with "elaborate" software like Time Machine my back-ups and restores never come out right. Something is always missing or it half of the new restored system doesn't work right.
Long time lurker, first time poster.
RE: 3D graphics, I don't have the exact FPS numbers, but I noticed a marked improvement in WoW on my C2D MacBook Pro (late 2008) with Geforce 8600M GT.
With Shadow's, Liquid Detail and Sunshafts at Low, I had to lower the resolution to 1600 to get barely acceptable FPS. Now I can crank it up to the max 1920x1080 resolution of my 24" monitor and get acceptable FPS (e.g. ~30-40fps), also with Shadow and Liquid on Good.
So the graphic update has had some notable benefit on my system.
Hope this helps.
RE: 3D graphics, I don't have the exact FPS numbers, but I noticed a marked improvement in WoW on my C2D MacBook Pro (late 2008) with Geforce 8600M GT.
With Shadow's, Liquid Detail and Sunshafts at Low, I had to lower the resolution to 1600 to get barely acceptable FPS. Now I can crank it up to the max 1920x1080 resolution of my 24" monitor and get acceptable FPS (e.g. ~30-40fps), also with Shadow and Liquid on Good.
So the graphic update has had some notable benefit on my system.
Hope this helps.
Do ya think the mall I'm working in, is just to dry and I have a static problem causing my phones to shock and pop ?
No, I'm saying don't be a hypocrite and call other people names. This forum is where we discuss issues and problems and get help. Nothing wrong with that. I'm saying this guy is a hypocrite and lack of knowledge about Windows and OS X. Microsoft sends out updates one by one. Apple packages them into .X updates. Microsoft will eventually package all of their updates and bug fixes into a Service Pack. If you install Windows XP today, you don't have to download hundreds if not thousands of updates, just a couple of service packs. With OS X, you can install 10.6 and download one big file to upgrade to 10.6.5 or whatever the latest version is with the combo updates. Two different methods of managing updates and bug fixes to two OSes that are both very different and suited for different needs. But comparing the two and saying one sucks while using that OS is hypocrisy. Be consistent, I use Windows, OS X and Linux every day and in my experiences, none of them are perfect. There are many methods of managing updates.
No he and others like Milo et al are saying that you can only come on here if you're a diehard fanboy. The idea of having a contrary opinion is akin to blasphemy in their eyes.
It doesn't matter that some of us who have been using Macs since the Mac Plus (unlike I'm sure the vast majority of said fanboyz) and hold Apple to a higher standard have become somewhat disenfranchised with the direction they are heading lately, increasing QA problems, boneheaded business decisions etc. etc.
Now excuse me because apparently I'm supposed to GTFO.
No, I meant don't be a hypocrite and be ignorant. These forums are supposed to help people with issues and problems. Not be a forum of hypocrites and ignorant people like you. If you really think Windows is better, then go use Windows. That's what I'm saying. Don't blow things out of proportions.
Wrong, Vista was a complete and utter failure. Windows 7 was supposed to address all the problems and issues introduced by Vista. SL was touted as an under the hood upgrade to Leopard. Leopard wasn't a failure like Vista. In SL, stuff was rewritten and revised for better performance. It wasn't to deal with compatibility problems.
Also, you called people names first. You are a hypocrite, complaining about how OS X SL is filled by bugs while owning and using two Macs running SL. Any attempt to deny that is futile and pointless much like everything you've posted so far. You've pointed out that every software has bugs and that hypocrites and trolls exist on planet Earth. All of which we already know.
Anyone installed yet with a Santa Rosa MacBook Pro? My fans literally had not come on audibly since I got it on Tuesday and as it was installing, the fans came on. It rebooted and I am now sitting at 54 Celsius and they still haven't come off entirely. It used to idle at 45ish. Feels slower too, gonna try another reboot.
Nah. I think there is a problem with the update. If I recall this happened with one of the 10.4.x updates before. That combined with it happening again and the fact people are reporting external sound card problems (Headphones being according to Apple Support an "external device") leads me to believe there's a glitch somewhere. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't be surprised if an update comes out to fix it in a week or two if is a widespread problem.
It's not worth redoing an entire computer to fix, frankly. Even if that'll fix it. Like I said I have never once done a restore from a time machine back-up and had it work properly. And that's spanning 4 different computers with 4 separate hard drives. Not worth the aggravation.
Wrong. You might want to re-read the threads. It was in fact you that started calling people names.
Now why don't you run along and using your own verbiage, S.T.F.U!
He's talking about bugs. What you're summing up here are exactly that: bugs! Bugs can be security related, they don't have to be though.Then you might want to consider a new career.
Win 7 had two DST updates, one in Sep, one in May, and two reliability updates, one in Apr and one in Jan which consisted of a grand total of seven fixes! Everything else has been security updates.
Which again is completely wrong. OS X, Linux and Windows have different release and development cycles. These cycles sometimes dictate when they release bug fixes and patch sets (10.6.5 and the like are patch sets). Microsoft wanted to control the load on their servers (actually its Akamais) so they changed their patch release schedule to the Tuesday patchday as we now know it. This means you can plan ahead as an IT professional which you can not do with Linux/OS X. On the other hand this causes a very very big problem: you have to wait for a fix which you don't with Linux/OS X. That's why Microsoft is lagging behind when things go bad regarding security of their products. Open source projects such as Firefox and Linux tend to respond an awful lot faster.
Due to the open nature regarding open source products it is very easy to check for bugs. The closed nature of Microsoft does not allow you to do this. That's the main reason why open source products have a lot more bug fixes than closed source ones. However this is not entirely true since you need people looking for bugs and fixing them. Since OS X uses quite a lot of open source it is not uncommon that it'll receive quite a lot of updates at times. Then again, there is Adobe Flash which eats away 42% of the security fixes in 10.6.5 (you don't get those with Windows; you need to redownload Flash yourself)! As you can imagine with Flash gone in future releases of OS X as well as Java this will decrease the amount of bug fixes.
And then we have something called severity and impact. The amount of bugs found do not say anything about those two aspects. Yet those two aspects define "risk" which is the most important thing about a bug. That's what you want to use when talking about bugs. That combined with the amount of time they need to get the bug resolved is what defines if a piece of software is utter crap or not.
So the only thing you're actually saying is that you have absolutely no clue what on earth you're talking about. In other words, move along, nothing to talk about...
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Ontopic: I've seen two Macs that had their firewall switched off after being updated. One Mac still had the firewall turned on. They prolly have changed something regarding firewalling on the other machines I guess.
Are you implying that at Apple engineers use hackintoshes to test new OS releases as their main machines?
I wouldn't be surprised.Are you implying that at Apple engineers use hackintoshes to test new OS releases as their main machines?