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I find it comical that Apple takes the time to point out that "over 70" new emoji's have been added to the release (and even give said update its own section in the announcement!).

Are those emoji not a feature significant enough for a minor update?

It really gives you a sense of where Apple's priorities are these days...

It really doesn't.

Ah, the usual emoji thread.

Q: Why is Apple adding more emoji?
A: Because emoji are a driving factor in getting people to install updates. That's critical especially for updates that also contain security patches.

Q: No seriously, why?
A: Because a new version of Unicode has more available. While Apple is also part of the process deciding which future emoji make it into the standard, they have to agree with the results, just like everyone else. Otherwise, you end up in a situation where Android or Samsung or Windows have emoji that don't render on Apple's OSes, which people will rightfully blame Apple for (and possibly consider it an argument to move to a different OS).

Q: Their software quality has been going downhill.
A: That's not a question.

Q: OK. Shouldn't they invest resources into improving software rather than adding emoji?
A: It's not an either-or proposition. Adding emoji is largely graphics designer work; most of the software engineering (such as a picker for different skin tones) has already been done years ago. So, adding emoji doesn't take up many software engineering resources, and even if it did, Apple has thousands of other software engineers spread around numerous teams. Make the argument that Apple should focus less on features and more on quality, not the argument that in order to do so, they should stop adding emoji.

Q: But emoji are stupid!
A: Also not a question, but a valid opinion. Millions upon millions of people love them, though, and if you don't, they're really not particularly in your way. Not everything Apple does is about you.
 
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Mine keeps downloading, as it is about to finish, the progress bar goes away and I get the same message about update available, hit it again, and the download starts all over again. I tried restarting but no luck.
Same thing down here in Argentina...
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You better check that translation, because you're incorrect. Sorry
I live in Argentina and have never heard of that use for the word Catalina. Nevertheless it seems to be common in my neighbor country Chile.
Carlos
 
Same thing down here in Argentina...
Fixed, I didn’t realize that after the download finishes and you see the update thing again, don’t click it, instead look at the top right you will see a little notification that is prompting you to restart, hit that and the update will start
 
Yes because emojis are the best thing made since sliced bread, even Android updates make them a highlight in their updates, like I couldn’t care less. That’s so childish.

Should release notes only mention aspects that are the best thing since sliced bread?

Sounds like a pretty high bar.
 
I am on the Catalina Beta for 10.15, not 10.15.1. I removed the profile a while back to stop receiving beta updates because I wanted to get back onto official releases. I am still on a 10.15 beta release, but when I go to System Preferences > Software Update, there is no update available. I have refreshed several times (Command + R), but it still says there are no updates available. Am I going to have to wipe my computer and reinstall an official release of macOS in order to update to Catalina?
 
Tossing in another report of installer hangs. I have 3 machines I just set up today (all older MacMinis). Nuke and pave installs, fresh 15.0 then immediate 15.1 update, all are hung with "about a minute remaining". Been like this for over an hour on all three.

One of them is set as a software cache server so I'll hold off on any more until that one completes. Hopefully the rest will go quicker pulling from the cache since Apples servers seem to be having issues.
 
Catalina, in Spanish, means Poop. I’m not saying, but probably a good choice of naming this OS?
Jajajaja

Menudo inventazo. En mi vida he oído Catalina como sinónimo de caca. Catalina solo es un nombre de chica y no significa nada.
 
Looks like Apple's CDN is wonky again; the first half of the update downloaded at a full gigabit/sec but it's slowed to a crawl. Oh well, no rush to update, I'll try again tomorrow.
 
Jajajaja

Menudo inventazo. En mi vida he oído Catalina como sinónimo de caca. Catalina solo es un nombre de chica y no significa nada.
Yo estoy de acuerdo contigo, pero si consultas en la página de la real academia española verás que Catalina es excremento. Realmente nunca escuché esta acepción. Para mí Catalina es un nombre y nada más.
 
I was able to find Mac Pro 2019 but not able to find 16 inch MBP at all from 10.15.1

Find CoreTypes.bundle and then show contents.
 
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With everything I've seen and heard about Catalina, I'm waiting till 10.15.4 (and I pretty much never wait). It's maybe not quite as bad as Lion was when it was released, but it's not far off...

I tried to live with Catalina for over a week. The latest issue I had with it was the problems with Adobe Bridge and Photoshop ACR. Those were just totally broken on my machine. Now I'm back to Mojave and it's purring along.
 
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I am on the Catalina Beta for 10.15, not 10.15.1. I removed the profile a while back to stop receiving beta updates because I wanted to get back onto official releases. I am still on a 10.15 beta release, but when I go to System Preferences > Software Update, there is no update available. I have refreshed several times (Command + R), but it still says there are no updates available. Am I going to have to wipe my computer and reinstall an official release of macOS in order to update to Catalina?

Does the left pane say something like "This Mac is enrolled in…" (some beta/developer/etc. program)? If so, you can click Details… to change that.

You can also try, in Terminal:

Code:
sudo softwareupdate --clear-catalog

And then:

Code:
softwareupdate -l

That should list it, and the System Preferences app should then also show it.
 
Fixed, I didn’t realize that after the download finishes and you see the update thing again, don’t click it, instead look at the top right you will see a little notification that is prompting you to restart, hit that and the update will start
Hey! That did it. Thanks for the tip. If you ever come to Argentina, I do owe you a beer. It is installing right now.
 
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NO NO NO NO NO.
Supporting new emojis requires graphics designer resourcing, not software architects. Do you believe, for example, that Apple should scrap their marketing department simply because their money could be better spent on engineering?
Do you really not think that adding emojis requires apples resources? Apple has limited resources. Make the OS stable vs adding in trivial icons. You realize it takes programmers to implement graphics in apps and support in the apps correct?

How is this a hard concept for you?
 
Do you really not think that adding emojis requires apples resources? Apple has limited resources. Make the OS stable vs adding in trivial icons. You realize it takes programmers to implement graphics in apps and support in the apps correct?

How is this a hard concept for you?

It's PNG images in a font (Apple Color Emoji). It doesn't take a programmer to do anything. You draw the image, export it as PNG, then probably ages ago some programmer wrote a tool to merge that PNG into the font.
 
Went to install, complained about not enough space on Macintosh data. Rebooted and now I seem to have a ghost partition and have two Macintosh Data. As a result its impossible to install as says I need 18.33gb free.

WTF!? Any ideas?
 
I am on the Catalina Beta for 10.15, not 10.15.1. I removed the profile a while back to stop receiving beta updates because I wanted to get back onto official releases. I am still on a 10.15 beta release, but when I go to System Preferences > Software Update, there is no update available. I have refreshed several times (Command + R), but it still says there are no updates available. Am I going to have to wipe my computer and reinstall an official release of macOS in order to update to Catalina?

Well I had same problem so I gave up and put the beta profile up. I got the last few versions of 1015.1 beta. Along comes the official 10.15.1 and it saw it and would install it. The download process was very slow so I also removed the beta option and it reset the download back to starting over but it downloaded faster and installed over the last 10.15.1 beta with no trouble and now my MacBook is updated to current release and no longer in beta program where I wanted it.
 
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