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Apple Releases macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 With Messages in iCloud Support

HopefulHumanist said:
No, that’s a straw man. The point is that iMessage may the reason someone chooses a Mac over a PC. They do most of the same things; iMessage is something that differentiates one from the other.
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if the issue is about iMessage, I really don't care
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rrm74001 said:
The checkbox for 'Enable Messages in iCloud' is missing, wouldn't you agree?
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ah ok... thanks for clarifying it

Came
 
chrisdazzo said:
HOO-RAY! Hopefully this solves the issues I was having with the last beta wherein moving a flash drive crashed Finder, and I can't command-click to open folders because Finder "isn't available". Combo update ahoy?

Build version 17F77 in the Dev portal.
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MacBird said:
Yes, 17F77 is what it says after installing the update.
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This is a different build number than the last beta (17F70a), soooo, no one found any references to new hardware? (Yes, this is possible, the first beta of 10.13.6 could have new hardware left out.)
 
HopefulHumanist said:
No, that’s a straw man. The point is that iMessage may the reason someone chooses a Mac over a PC. They do most of the same things; iMessage is something that differentiates one from the other.
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Agreed. For developers, engineers and some other more technical users—and even some less technical ones :)—the biggest differentiator is that a Mac can run Windows.
 
First time EVER having issues installing a macOS update. During the download (2.2GB), it jumped from 85% downloaded to 100% so I knew something was wrong. Then it offered to install the update, which proceeded to fail with a scary message about running Diagnostics. Did that, no problem. Rebooted, checked for updates... nothing. Then the update popped up, and it was only 1.63GB so obviously the update was partially installed and I only needed to download the remaining portion. That took forever on my ADSL connection. We'll see how the install goes.

Man, I hate the App Store app! Apple needs to get their stuff together and rebuild that app using a native interface, not the web crap.
 
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groovyd said:
It would have to be built into the filesystem to work properly.
[doublepost=1527890031][/doublepost]Here's something weird... even though the option to enable isn't in my preferences like they say or iCloud I managed to find something about it in their new reduce clutter dialogs...

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I know this seems weird, but if ANYONE here has problems enabling the messages in the cloud option - INSTALL THE UPDATE AGAIN! :)

It was already suggested here a few times, and i did not think much of it. But i downloaded the update from the link here: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1965?locale=en_GB (also suggested by others) and installed it over the OS even though it already reported 10.13.5.

And boom - works.

Thanks for the suggestions from everyone here.
 
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macintoshmac said:
There was a time when Apple refrained from vapourware. Today, under Cook, they are beginning a dangerous trend into vapourware that brings the respect level down several "notches".

It is one full year and now they are delivering it. These guys used to perfect things in the back before releasing, and one could buy products and use services right on the day of announcement, not any longer. I do not know why, understand why, but I do not like this trend.

Messages in Cloud: 3 days before iOS 12 instead of shipping with 11.
HomePod was announced to come months later, released even more months later.
iMac Pro, previewed. Why! Just launch when ready!

There used to be pride in it. But I do sincerely feel that any kind of personalisation, any sort of character of a company was lost the day Jobs passed away.
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Hmm, do you not remember there time Steve Jobs announced push notifications in iOS 2 (or iPhone OS 2 at the time), for it not to actually be released with iOS 2? In fact, it was a good full year later when the feature finally came out with iOS 3

I'm not saying Tim Cook is great, or that Steve Jobs was bad, just that non-revisionist history helps to add some perspective.
 
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MacWanker said:
Before I update, can anyone who has updated confirm that messages in icloud is turned off by default?
No desire or intention of using it.
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Okay, but you realize the messages are fully encrypted end-to-end, and not even Apple has the keys, right?

Moving Messages to iCloud just sweetens the whole experience. I'm discovering that they were actually always stored in iCloud, just not always displayed in the Messages apps on all devices, and not kept in sync between devices. Now they are. This is a much better Messages experience. One set of messages everywhere.
 
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Secondempire said:
Urgh. I still experience the bug where the Messages app displays the telephone numbers for contacts, instead of their names which I have saved in Contacts.

Messages in iCloud is working fine though.
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Add country code to your contacts numbers, that fixes the issue.

And yes it’s very annoying
 
MacBird said:
I can stereo-pair two HomePods via iTunes now, took a couple of attempts though.
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Hey! thanks for the headsup, just checked again and it works!
(despite not system level, and Apple Music only, but certainly a welcome update)
 
Ronis_BR said:
The option appeared right after I enabled Keychain, so it seems definitely related. However, there is nothing mentioned on the Apple website.
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I had the same situation. Out of curiosity, I checked my iOS devices (where iMessage cloud syncing was working fine) and my iCloud keychain was enabled on them. I enabled iCloud keychain on the iOS devices some time ago as it is required for HomeKit - I believe encryption keys and/or other HomeKit related information used by HomeKit are stored on the iCloud keychain. Since we can't do HomeKit stuff on the Mac (are you listening Tim?), I had no reason to enable keychain in iCloud on the Mac. Once I enabled it, BINGO - the missing iCloud preference options for iMessage appeared. So it would seem that iMessage stores an encryption key or something in the keychain and is required to make it work. I guess Apple assumes everyone has the iCloud keychain enabled by now lol.
 
No airplay2 and no return of Displink capability. Remaining on .3 because its safer than upgrading.
 
Mine still doesn't show up. My updates have been behaving weirdly, with some updates telling me I already have the newest version even though I know I don't and they're in the update window.

Is there a preference file I should delete to reset updates?
 
noraa said:
Hmm, do you not remember there time Steve Jobs announced push notifications in iOS 2 (or iPhone OS 2 at the time), for it not to actually be released with iOS 2? In fact, it was a good full year later when the feature finally came out with iOS 3

I'm not saying Tim Cook is great, or that Steve Jobs was bad, just that non-revisionist history helps to add some perspective.
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I was talking about a general trend. Thanks for the info, I did not know that as I started with iOS in 2011 with iPhone 4S. :)
 
I used DosDude1's tool to upgrade my 2008 Unibody MacBook to High Sierra and whenever I try to update it something goes wrong. Any fixes? I'm stuck on a beta of 10.13.5
 
Was my iPad Air supposed to be synced with all of the messages from my iPhone X? And same with my MBP and iMac? The iPad Air is missing pretty much all of my latest messages that are on m X.
 
efktd said:
Was my iPad Air supposed to be synced with all of the messages from my iPhone X? And same with my MBP and iMac? The iPad Air is missing pretty much all of my latest messages that are on m X.
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All conversations are merged. They probably haven't finished uploading/downloading yet.
 
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Anyone else having issues playing HDCP content (e.g. Films/TV Shows purchased from iTunes)? The film doesn't play, the mouse cursor becomes jumpy, and eventually iTunes just gives up and says my system can't play HDCP content, despite it working before this update.
 
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