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Apple Releases macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 With Messages in iCloud Support

 
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Attirex said:
Only reason Apple created iCloud support for Messages is so users eat up their allotted storage even more quickly, thus motivating them/us to upgrade and hand over more $$$ to AAPL. $ad.
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Yeah, totally, it's not like a lot of customers would actually find the provided features useful...oh, wait...
 
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Ronis_BR said:
Yes, I did.
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This has probably been said earlier (several times), but I had to go to general Settings and sign in on the iCloud tab again "to activate certain features" or words to that effect, then the check box in Messages>Preferences came up, and required clicking "sync now."

IOW, I had to do something both in Settings and in Messages to turn this on.
 
Quick Question: If I was to delete Safari (have deleted caches, history, done virus scan, etc., but it keeps freezing) would installing this update restore a fresh, working copy of it?
 
groovyd said:
Apple has really lost their way I think...
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Not sure I'd go quite that far but High Sierra/iOS 11 definitely aren't their proudest moment. It sure would have been nice if it had said "Hey this update failed" rather than me trying to puzzle out why I didn't have the option. The only reason I found it so quickly is that this isn't the first HS point release that did that to me.
 
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Ronis_BR said:
After enabling Keychain, everything worked fine. After 1 min. all my messages back to 2010 was synced :D
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Very strange I've seen nothing saying Keychain was required... I bet that's my issue too and I've not been able to use Keychain in quite a while. I bet our IT dept is blocking it so this won't even work for me. Ugh.
 
Dr. Know said:
Very strange I've seen nothing saying Keychain was required... I bet that's my issue too and I've not been able to use Keychain in quite a while. I bet our IT dept is blocking it so this won't even work for me. Ugh.
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The option appeared right after I enabled Keychain, so it seems definitely related. However, there is nothing mentioned on the Apple website.
 
groovyd said:
You know what the file system needs is a secure hash for each file data so that for example if two files were the same it would just keep one copy and point to that. I bet half the files on my system are duplicates of some other file somewhere else. Along with soft moves and copies that should seriously accelerate things like OS updates.
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There's probably an app for that.
 
This might be an impressively stupid question, but googling has yet to provide an answer so here goes. Also I'm pretty bad at googling stuff.

When I enable messages in the cloud on both my Mac and iPhone how does the sync work exactly? I have different messages on each, so how will they be synced? Everything lumped together? Will the messages on my Mac replace the ones on the phone, or the other way around?

Thanks!
 
tywebb13 said:
Security Update 2018-003 for El Capitan:

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1967?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Security update 2018-003 for Sierra:

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1968?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Safari 11.1.1 for El Capitan:

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...4h9362w3chkwj2ihqn7/Safari11.1.1ElCapitan.pkg

Safari 11.1.1 for Sierra:

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...lnxjguf8eud13h6gkd8c6i/Safari11.1.1Sierra.pkg
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For El Capitan you might be better off updating to Security Update 2018-003 via the mac app store instead of the dmg file because curiously the dmg updates to build 15G21012 whereas the mac app store gives you a slightly higher build 15G21013.

I discovered this after installing it via the dmg, yet the update still appeared in the mac app store - because it detected that the dmg version was a lower build.
 
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Mefisto said:
This might be an impressively stupid question, but googling has yet to provide an answer so here goes. Also I'm pretty bad at googling stuff.

When I enable messages in the cloud on both my Mac and iPhone how does the sync work exactly? I have different messages on each, so how will they be synced? Everything lumped together? Will the messages on my Mac replace the ones on the phone, or the other way around?

Thanks!
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Any message conversation not on either device will now be there. Any conversation that is on the same device will be "merged" - I THINK, or updated to be the same on all devices.

Interestingly enough, some of the conversations on my Mac did not move over to my phone. They were in the past few days too. Also, older messages on my Mac with attachments - those attachments are not in the conversation on my phone. They are blank bubbles. Not sure why.

I wish there was MORE INFORMATION from Apple about this. Too many questions and not enough answers.
 
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guzhogi said:
I'd be interested to see how Duet Display works with this. 10.13.4 broke it.
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10.13.4 broke a lot of things. I have a hunch Apple has not done anything to address most of those issues and I wouldn't be surprised if 10.13.5 breaks even more things. I've really started to lose faith in Apple over the last two years.
 
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Markoth said:
Okay. Please keep us updated on percentages. I'd like to know when it's at 30%. I fear I may have missed it. :|
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Both machines have been upgraded for about 3hrs now. No problems. The download did slow down a lot for a bit but eventually resumed.
 
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