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Funny how Apple sends such a mixed message about software. Teaching kids swift sure tugs at the heart, but all those hard working macOS developers don't get a proper release announcement in the keynote - they just quietly update the web page with the Sierra available date. Better than El Crap when they faked a "leaked" email - such a stupid slap in the face to software engineers.

But Apple has always been a hardware company - which is why they show such a blatant lack of respect to software development.

I stayed away from El Crap on my main system because it sucked - and the faux "leaked email" announcement was a "tell" that they knew it.
Hopefully Sierra is better, but I haven't touched it yet.
 
Can you nerds who have downloaded Sierra (I can't/won't because I have a late 2008 MB) do some digging and find some clues as to the next MBP? Please and thank you.
 
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Not beta testing, so I don't know yet, but I'm curious as to whether Siri will perform better than dictation on OS X.

I hardly ever even use dictation because I have to wait 5 to 10 seconds after hitting the hot key before the microphone even turns on, and I have 50 Megabit cable service, so...

If Siri buffers for 10 seconds everytime I want to use it, I probably never will.
 
Not beta testing, so I don't know yet, but I'm curious as to whether Siri will perform better than dictation on OS X.

I hardly ever even use dictation because I have to wait 5 to 10 seconds after hitting the hot key before the microphone even turns on, and I have 50 Megabit cable service, so...

If Siri buffers for 10 seconds everytime I want to use it, I probably never will.

Enhanced dictation would solve your problem, it can be used offline.
 
When I installed Windows 10 it let me know that if I wanted to use Cortana voice search ALL of my keystrokes, searches, and web history would be sent to Microsoft. Does anyone know how much data Siri will be sending back to Apples servers? Would apple even disclose any recording of keystrokes or web traffic if it were to do such a thing?
 
When I installed Windows 10 it let me know that if I wanted to use Cortana voice search ALL of my keystrokes, searches, and web history would be sent to Microsoft. Does anyone know how much data Siri will be sending back to Apples servers? Would apple even disclose any recording of keystrokes or web traffic if it were to do such a thing?

All of that stuff is online.
 
When I installed Windows 10 it let me know that if I wanted to use Cortana voice search ALL of my keystrokes, searches, and web history would be sent to Microsoft. Does anyone know how much data Siri will be sending back to Apples servers? Would apple even disclose any recording of keystrokes or web traffic if it were to do such a thing?

ALL of your keystrokes are not sent to anyone. Please stop this silly rant.
 
Public Beta only or Devs too?

Please take a few minutes to read the opening post (the front page news article) in its entirety. In the second sentence:

"one day after the launch of the golden master for developers."

There was a separate Mac Blog post about a golden master for developers … one day ago ;-)
 
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Nothing for me, been on the dev track.
 

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I signed into the beta.apple.com website and there was the download link for Sierra GM. However they labeled it as GM candidate. I will get back to y'all on the build.
 
When I installed Windows 10 it let me know that if I wanted to use Cortana voice search ALL of my keystrokes, searches, and web history would be sent to Microsoft. Does anyone know how much data Siri will be sending back to Apples servers? Would apple even disclose any recording of keystrokes or web traffic if it were to do such a thing?

Siri sends back whatever is necessary for it to translate, compute, and send back the response.

In the case of Open Settings, your voice data for the session "Open Settings" will be sent back to Apple along with your IP address and list of installed applications, so it can translate open settings on it's end, formulate the proper URI for settings. (e.g. settings:\\dosomething), then it sends that URI back to your device using the IP address you supplied so it can execute that URI on your device.

Apple may capture some of your data in the form of a hash which will be made on your phone. This hash will be sent up to Apple for intuitive suggestions for you. It's not like they send everything up to their servers, just bits and pieces.

The quick
the lazy dog
the dog
quick fox
the brown
jumps over
brown fox
over the
quick brown
fox jumps
the fox
.

If you had an idea of what I wrote, it's because you are familiar with the sentence "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." (used to simulate every letter of the alphabet in fonts)

It's a common phrase, but as you can see if it were anything else, you'd have no idea what I typed. Especially if it were encrypted from a hexadecimal format with some strong encryption.

The fact is the data isn't easy to understand unencrypted, harder to break encrypted, and this still isn't the last form, it's probably uploaded after being compressed into a binary tree. Which means you are streaming about 100 1s and 0s for what would be this post.

Microsoft screwed up because they didn't mention anything about anonymizing your data, they just say we collect it.
 
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