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Apple Releases Magic Mouse Software Updates

steerpikegg said:
I think the point here is that this mouse is supposed to be an advancement in technology, not a regression.

There are plenty of situations, for example when using CAD or 3D software, where being able to click more than one button at a time is a serious aid to productivity.

Just because you, in your limited capacity, don't need a middle button, don't assume that this is the same for everyone.

Lots of people actually use Macs for serious work, not just as toys as this 'magic' (mickey?) mouse would seem to indicate.
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Apple would be irresponsible if they shipped a mouse designed for professional uses with each Mac and saddle the vast majority of their users with the extra cost of a device they don't need. The mouse they ship is appropriate for the 90+% of customers of "limited capacity" (a rather condescending description of the majority of computers I'd say.)
A 'superuser' mouse would be confusing and useless to the vast majority of users. If you're doing CAD/CAM or 3D, you need to act like a professional and get the tool that's right for your 'limited focus'. I don't want to pay extra for a tool I don't need.

I personally see the touch interface to the mouse as quite an advancement.
 
LAS.mac said:
Why?
Maybe it does not help with the charge length. But surely helps reducing pollution from used batteries. Used alkaline batteries are theworst pollutant in the world, at the moment.
I think that disposable battery producers should be made responsible to recycle and recollect them, for free.
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No, they're not. They are made out of normal, safe metals since the early 90s, by mandate. (at least, in USA) That's why there's approximately 1 company in the USA that actually recycles them. Most places just throw them in the trash after you put them in a "recycle" box.

I mean, don't eat them. But they are fine for landfills.

It's the cost that has driven me to rechargeable batteries.
 
A 'superuser' mouse would be confusing and useless to the vast majority of users. If you're doing CAD/CAM or 3D, you need to act like a professional and get the tool that's right for your 'limited focus'. I don't want to pay extra for a tool I don't need.
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Seriously, if people find coping with 3 buttons confusing, I would have to question their ability to use a computer in the first place.

As for your second point, here in the UK, the Magic Mouse costs £55, which is more than the most expensive logitech mouse I can find, and more than most of Razer professional range, so I think, you are actually paying far more ultimately.

What this means for a professional user since apple don't have a 'no mouse' option when buying, is that they have paid once for a form over function mouse and then have to pay again for a useful one.
 
GQB said:
What are you talking about?... the whole body does NOT click. You simply tap.

I tried one out over the weekend, and they're killer. They are NOT trackpads. A moving trackpad makes no sense. But I bought (and am about to return) a Bamboo pen/touch. They're ok, but have a lag I really don't like. I've also notice stutter and unpredictability that I just don't like.

I'll be picking up the Magic Mouse as soon as they're available. And if that's not for another week, my life is not going to end.

Get a grip folks.
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The whole body DOES klick. I received my shipment notice today, too (Germany).
 
seedster2 said:
I am amazed that so many would order a mouse without never actually holding or using it. Moreover, considering apple's track record in this category, I would be even more skeptical.
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I'm with you. I want to try one in the store. I hate my current "mighty mouse" a lot, and would like to think they got it right with this one, but it also wouldn't surprise me at all if they didn't.

I like the idea, but it sure feels like pinch to zoom and two finger rotate are some obvious misses. There is also no way I get one before 10.6.2. I refuse to load additional drivers for a mouse. If my OS can't deal with it, I'm not interested in it.

Not to mention no boot camp / windows drivers. I wouldn't be too happy losing a lot of functionality whenever I switch to windows.

steerpikegg said:
Seriously, if people find coping with 3 buttons confusing, I would have to question their ability to use a computer in the first place.
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A little harsh eh? There are lots of people who are very smart in their field that find computers intimidating. Click, Right Click, Double Click, Click/Drag, Click/Hold - they all seem natural to those who work with computers everyday, but are anything but natural for people who didn't grow up using computers, but still need to use them for certain tasks.

Adding middle-mouse click to the whole plethora of mouse gestures just adds to it. It isn't really all that intuitive, and people who get confused by it are not necessarily stupid.
 
lm57400 said:
The whole body DOES klick. I received my shipment notice today, too (Germany).
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Then we're either talking about 2 different devices or it has functionality I didn't find. The Magic Mouse I used at the Apple Store responded to light taps from one or both finger. No clicking.
 
dernhelm said:
I'm with you. I want to try one in the store. I hate my current "mighty mouse" a lot, and would like to think they got it right with this one, but it also wouldn't surprise me at all if they didn't.

I like the idea, but it sure feels like pinch to zoom and two finger rotate are some obvious misses. There is also no way I get one before 10.6.2. I refuse to load additional drivers for a mouse. If my OS can't deal with it, I'm not interested in it.

Not to mention no boot camp / windows drivers. I wouldn't be too happy losing a lot of functionality whenever I switch to windows.



A little harsh eh? There are lots of people who are very smart in their field that find computers intimidating. Click, Right Click, Double Click, Click/Drag, Click/Hold - they all seem natural to those who work with computers everyday, but are anything but natural for people who didn't grow up using computers, but still need to use them for certain tasks.

Adding middle-mouse click to the whole plethora of mouse gestures just adds to it. It isn't really all that intuitive, and people who get confused by it are not necessarily stupid.
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In addition, the gripes about 'one button mice' (complaints btw by people who seem oblivious to the fact that Apple Mice have been '2 button' for years) are usually from people who want way more than 3 buttons... they essentially want their mouse to be the complete input device. Its these keyboard replacement mice I'm talking about.

I truly think there's such a thing as 'mouse fetishism'.
Again... people with tiny niche needs have to stop expecting Apple to design just for them.
 
GQB said:
Then we're either talking about 2 different devices or it has functionality I didn't find. The Magic Mouse I used at the Apple Store responded to light taps from one or both finger. No clicking.
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The Magic Mouse (attached to a new iMac) that I tried definitely clicked. It's like the entire front portion goes down and depending upon whether you are on left or rights triggers left or right click. It was definitely the new mouse. That's why I ordered one. I really liked the feel of it.
 
wolfpackfan said:
The Magic Mouse (attached to a new iMac) that I tried definitely clicked. It's like the entire front portion goes down and depending upon whether you are on left or rights triggers left or right click. It was definitely the new mouse. That's why I ordered one. I really liked the feel of it.
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Update this thread when it arrives. I think you're in for a bit of a surprise. (A pleasant one, IMHO.)
 
you must be talking about a completely different device. the magic mouse clicks. just like the mighty mouse, just like the glass trackpads. it's completley obvious when you use one. i've tried three different ones at the apple store; all click.

GQB said:
Then we're either talking about 2 different devices or it has functionality I didn't find. The Magic Mouse I used at the Apple Store responded to light taps from one or both finger. No clicking.
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the magic mouse that came w/ our new imac definitely clicks -- just tapping it doesnt do a thing (if it did, then navigating w/ out selecting would be a giant pain)...

status for individual magic mouse order has changed to: prepared for shipment :cool:
 
studio¹³¹ said:
the magic mouse that came w/ our new imac definitely clicks -- just tapping it doesnt do a thing (if it did, then navigating w/ out selecting would be a giant pain)...

status for individual magic mouse order has changed to: prepared for shipment :cool:
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When yours arrives, please don't break it by trying to crunch down on it to 'click'.
By 'click' they mean 'tap'. Really. Maybe the Mac speaker makes a 'click' sound... I don't know because the store is noisy.
What you're describing is the old Mighty Mouse, and if you got one with your new iMac, then either its not the iMac released last week, or there was a packing mistake.
 
odd that you're the only one who claims it doesn't click when plenty of us have clearly told you it does! how about more proof?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/new-imac-and-magic-mouse-unboxing-and-quick-hands-on/

http://gizmodo.com/5385834/apple-magic-mouse-hands-on



i suppose they must be breaking it since it obviously doesn't click. :rolleyes:
the magic mouse is 'buttonless' just like the glass trackpads (which also physically click, or are you going to argue that as well?).

GQB said:
When yours arrives, please don't break it by trying to crunch down on it to 'click'.
By 'click' they mean 'tap'. Really. Maybe the Mac speaker makes a 'click' sound... I don't know because the store is noisy.
What you're describing is the old Mighty Mouse, and if you got one with your new iMac, then either its not the iMac released last week, or there was a packing mistake.
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mdwsta4 said:
odd that you're the only one who claims it doesn't click when plenty of us have clearly told you it does! how about more proof?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/new-imac-and-magic-mouse-unboxing-and-quick-hands-on/

http://gizmodo.com/5385834/apple-magic-mouse-hands-on
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I'm going to be driving by the Apple Store tonight, and aware of my own imperfections as I am, will check again. I will admit that I did not even think of physically crunching down on a device designed to be triggered by a light touch. What would be the sense?

But from your own reference (the gizmodo link)...

"This time they also added physical feedback, so when you click the buttons, you actually get the entire surface to click—like the original clear Apple mouse."

Yes there is a 'click' that you feel... but it is not the 'click' of pressing down on a physical switch ala the Might Mouse. It is a sound/tactile feedback effect.

But watch this space tomorrow, at which time I'll either be confirming my statement or sheepishly admitting my mistake.
 
2 thumbs up so far for me, though using it only a week isnt that much time to make a solid judgement call. So far so good and just played through Prey with one. Great game by the way and the mouse did fine. I recommend it at this point. Apple has made a decent mouse again. and yes it clicks with a easier motion and am using scroll a lot more then did before.:apple:
 
Perhaps I have no idea what you're trying to get at here. What kind of 'click' are you referring to? It's not a sound, it's a physical click, just like the glass trackpads. Tactile feedback to me would be a vibration or depression in the surface (like on the BB Storm), neither of which the magic mouse does.

GQB said:
Yes there is a 'click' that you feel... but it is not the 'click' of pressing down on a physical switch ala the Might Mouse. It is a sound/tactile feedback effect.
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ehurtley said:
Well, either way, it would have to contain two sets, then (Leopard contains both PPC and Intel.) Merely being 64-bit doesn't mean it takes up twice as much disk space. Especially compressed.
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Actually, Snow Leopard has three sets(for Frameworks), while Leopard had four. For SL: 32-bit Intel, 64-bit Intel, and 32-bit PowerPC.
 
The MM does click you can SEE the movement, its about 0.9 mm, a tap will do nothing ( unless you tap hit it hard )


two finger swipe is a bit unpredictable at this time
 
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GQB said:
I'm going to be driving by the Apple Store tonight, and aware of my own imperfections as I am, will check again. I will admit that I did not even think of physically crunching down on a device designed to be triggered by a light touch. What would be the sense?


But watch this space tomorrow, at which time I'll either be confirming my statement or sheepishly admitting my mistake.
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That's the sound of a sheepish 'oh well.'
When I first tried it out, it never occurred to me to physically 'click' in the old-fashioned way. Why would you when all you have to do is tap, they way I've been conditioned on the iPhone.
Logical assumption, but obviously in error.
So yup, I was wrong.
 
sascha h-k said:
mighty mouse works with 1 battery also, so maybe magic-m too ?!
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I prefer just one Lithium battery as well. Lasts long enough, and the it feels lighter, which is important to me. I can't stand heavy, bulky mice.


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