According to Apple's FCPX site, it doesn't say a word about FCP7 compatibility. I'm interested to hear if people are able to import FCP7 XMLs or if they're still left in the dark...
It doesn't mention it and it doesn't do it. Sorry folks.
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It doesn't mention it and it doesn't do it. Sorry folks.
It was unbelievable to leave out the function to import prior version projects. The rest I can understand them 'omitting', for now anyway.
Perhaps a manual change here and there to accomodate the import of 'old coded' projects into a new software architecture (which they've now done with the XML bridge) but to leave it out entirely in the beginning?
Why alienate 10 years of clients and their time-intensive projects?
Rank stupidity.
Other than that I've been looking forward to a trial for my hobby editing self. Downloading now
Perhaps a manual change here and there to accomodate the import of 'old coded' projects into a new software architecture (which they've now done with the XML bridge) but to leave it out entirely in the beginning?
Why alienate 10 years of clients and their time-intensive projects?
Rank stupidity.
Other than that I've been looking forward to a trial for my hobby editing self. Downloading now
NATIONAL TV!? WOW! I've cut 150 shows and countless hours of additional footage in every format under the sun for international broadcast on FCP7 relying on Multicam, tape export, XML and OMF export, etc...features that don't exist in FCPX. As a professional cameraman and editor, I'm sure it works for you if you're the ONLY one working on your project. But I too am a professional cameraman and editor and work with international news agencies and large post-production houses where collaboration is necessary and the features in FCP7 and Premiere are crucial. But like you said...it's not for everyone.
Adding pro features that require the purchase of a $400 third-party plugin to work?
Pull your head out of your ass.
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Did you even read the article? I requires a $400 plugin to work.
Agree with everything you said. I find myself missing FCP X when I go back to FCP 7.
Trying to upgrade FCPX and get this very odd message:
I bought FCPX, compressor and Motion all with the same acount. Compressors tells me I have to buy the app again, Motion works and downloads the update and FCPX gives me that weird message. How on earth it could be linked to another account is really beyond me?!?
But you know, feel free to rehash all the same pointless pro and con crap arguments, we really need more people telling each other they are pro and don't need / do need whatever feature.
I bought FCPX, compressor and Motion all with the same acount. Compressors tells me I have to buy the app again, Motion works and downloads the update and FCPX gives me that weird message. How on earth it could be linked to another account is really beyond me?!?
But you know, feel free to rehash all the same pointless pro and con crap arguments, we really need more people telling each other they are pro and don't need / do need whatever feature.
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In a EULA does it say anywhere "this product is a work in progress?"
No it doesn't.
If you want to apply the reasoning that fixing missed mistakes and bugs constitutes a "work in progress" then almost every product released is released in an unfinished state and the street date is nothing more than a fiscal marker to start generating profits.
Your car can be recalled for "bug fixes" does that mean when you buy a new car you are agreeing that your car is only partially made?
What about when the dev team are reassigned to work on a newer version and there is nobody left to fix the bugs? Is it finished then or is it still a work in progress?
Stating that a product may contain errors and stating that it isn't actually released as a final product are two different things.
All the FCP X bashers are a riot. How about you get over yourselves?
So Apple released a less than perfect product... yikes the cult of Apple is offended! They are working toward putting this product in the hands of their "pro" customers, but for now it works perfectly for many more customers.
First think about what it costs to develop a new software platform. Then think, what if a company could massively expand it's customer base, and use these new customers to pay for the development of truly great elite features?
Enter FCP X. If you are into the DIY film production scene like I am, then you know there are thousands of people making films on shoestring budgets. They don't need all of what FCP 7 did, but they definitely need more than iMovie or other like products can offer.
I'm one of those people. I have a pro audio background but have just started learning video this year. I'm able to produce very nice products on FCP X using the skills I've learned in audio, and just a bit of study in video. What's more I was able to get in for a reasonable price.
You all can tell me how wonderful Adobe Premier is... well enjoy... I have a house to pay for.
By the time the thousands of people like myself are ready for the pro features I'm confident they will be in FCP X and Apple will have us as loyal customers who will continue to buy their products into the future...
What about the Pros right now?? Welll unless I'm mistaken... they all have FCP 7 already right? Did they need FCP X this year? I don't think so.....
So enjoy the FCP X bashing all you want.... I spent under $400 and have a wonderful setup that is easy to use and produces products that I could only ever dream of being able to do on another setup....
Kev
So Apple released a less than perfect product... yikes the cult of Apple is offended! They are working toward putting this product in the hands of their "pro" customers, but for now it works perfectly for many more customers.
First think about what it costs to develop a new software platform. Then think, what if a company could massively expand it's customer base, and use these new customers to pay for the development of truly great elite features?
Enter FCP X. If you are into the DIY film production scene like I am, then you know there are thousands of people making films on shoestring budgets. They don't need all of what FCP 7 did, but they definitely need more than iMovie or other like products can offer.
I'm one of those people. I have a pro audio background but have just started learning video this year. I'm able to produce very nice products on FCP X using the skills I've learned in audio, and just a bit of study in video. What's more I was able to get in for a reasonable price.
You all can tell me how wonderful Adobe Premier is... well enjoy... I have a house to pay for.
By the time the thousands of people like myself are ready for the pro features I'm confident they will be in FCP X and Apple will have us as loyal customers who will continue to buy their products into the future...
What about the Pros right now?? Welll unless I'm mistaken... they all have FCP 7 already right? Did they need FCP X this year? I don't think so.....
So enjoy the FCP X bashing all you want.... I spent under $400 and have a wonderful setup that is easy to use and produces products that I could only ever dream of being able to do on another setup....
Kev
All the FCP X bashers are a riot. How about you get over yourselves?
So Apple released a less than perfect product... yikes the cult of Apple is offended! They are working toward putting this product in the hands of their "pro" customers, but for now it works perfectly for many more customers.
First think about what it costs to develop a new software platform. Then think, what if a company could massively expand it's customer base, and use these new customers to pay for the development of truly great elite features?
Enter FCP X. If you are into the DIY film production scene like I am, then you know there are thousands of people making films on shoestring budgets. They don't need all of what FCP 7 did, but they definitely need more than iMovie or other like products can offer.
I'm one of those people. I have a pro audio background but have just started learning video this year. I'm able to produce very nice products on FCP X using the skills I've learned in audio, and just a bit of study in video. What's more I was able to get in for a reasonable price.
You all can tell me how wonderful Adobe Premier is... well enjoy... I have a house to pay for.
By the time the thousands of people like myself are ready for the pro features I'm confident they will be in FCP X and Apple will have us as loyal customers who will continue to buy their products into the future...
What about the Pros right now?? Welll unless I'm mistaken... they all have FCP 7 already right? Did they need FCP X this year? I don't think so.....
So enjoy the FCP X bashing all you want.... I spent under $400 and have a wonderful setup that is easy to use and produces products that I could only ever dream of being able to do on another setup....
Kev
Yawn. Another non-editor talking out of his ass.
The Pros haven't been the core audience for a while and Apple hasn't been hiding this fact. When they cut Shake they basically said they weren't going to ignore the pros but the key audience was consumer/prosumer. Plugins etc are how the pros could get the supercharging they wanted.
Ironically, I can't help but wonder just how many Pro editors actually expected FCPX to be perfect for even the first six months, how many are disappointed by this software, how many didn't plan to use FCS3 for at least another year and seat up accordingly etc. Versus how many 'I call myself a pro cause I get paid for it but I lack a truly professional mindset' prosumers thought they were getting FCS3 at a steal in this new version and blew up when they didn't and thought they might actually have to buy $700+ in 3rd party stuff for the same results
It's not that it's "less than perfect"...it is NON-FUNCTIONAL in many PROfessional workflows...hence my previous comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_mixing_and_mastering
It depends on what audio editing you are doing, the thing its a a lot easier to do some, not all, audio editing/tweaking inside FCP X than it ever was inside FCP 7. Yes it was an a mistake not to include I/O export in FCP X but they are correcting that.
Free Trial?
Hmm, I might just get my first taste of Apple's Final Cut product.
I've only ever used iMovie, since iMovie 1.
Did you know you make can make stunning videos with iMovie? If you know what the hell you're doing?
Did you also know that if you have a knack for shooting and editing, it doesn't really matter what software you use to edit it?
Hmm, I might just get my first taste of Apple's Final Cut product.
I've only ever used iMovie, since iMovie 1.
Did you know you make can make stunning videos with iMovie? If you know what the hell you're doing?
Did you also know that if you have a knack for shooting and editing, it doesn't really matter what software you use to edit it?
So this means that all the money I spent switching over to Adobe Premier for my production team, even though I had a working Product in Final Cut Pro, and was mad that FCPX didn't have all the features I wanted from day one is a waste?
I mean what production team doesn't immediately switch to a new product on the day of release with no established workflow or knowledge of the product, and foregoes their working product, then only to switch to an entirely new environment because the new product doesn't have what we need to work, and the old one is well.... old, even though it worked fine.
It only costs us thousands of dollars in costs and lost production....but hey, now we have three licenses of Video Editors....
I mean what production team doesn't immediately switch to a new product on the day of release with no established workflow or knowledge of the product, and foregoes their working product, then only to switch to an entirely new environment because the new product doesn't have what we need to work, and the old one is well.... old, even though it worked fine.
It only costs us thousands of dollars in costs and lost production....but hey, now we have three licenses of Video Editors....
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It only failed if you expected it to be a copy of FCP7 but in 64 bit from day one. But keep in mind that FCP took 7 versions to get where it was, and Apple never hid that they were doing a total rewrite from line one.
Now sure they could have waited until everything was in place, and all the bugs were fixed. But folks were already griping that it had been two years and nothing. If you told them that they had to wait another two years for Apple to perfect the software, test on every possible hardware and software setup with every possible OS, well the bitching would be just as loud.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't sums it up nicely
A very amateur one. Which is why I suspect (or at least hope) you were joking and forgot to drop a wink at the end
My beef with FCPX is that it eliminates so many standard editing paradigms that have been around since the birth of NLEs. I think the magnetic timeline causes more problems than what it help solves.
People bitch about how they can't use it in a professional environment because you can use it with shared storage systems and multiple workstations and such, but I am going to assume that will be fixed over time.
if it took them almost 3 months to get in XML support, then who knows how long it will take them to fix the other stuff.
