Added the wink, as I don't want to give folks ideas....
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Apple Releases Major Update and Free Trial for Final Cut Pro X
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Added the wink, as I don't want to give folks ideas....
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A lot of production teams need new managers
apparently
Three months for XML and more. Plus updates to motion and compressor, keeping in mind they had to test all of it against two OS versions.
I'd say given that, three months isn't so bad
I'm a little afraid to ask what school is graduating students that don't know the answer to this or can't google it for themselves
you misread it. the XML support doesnt merely enable backwards compatibility (which would be a feature in itself, yes), but enables any import for third-party -- yet another feature. whether you think its a great feature or not, a feature it remains.
I am sad. Really wanted to try the trial but I was slapped in the face because my 'pro' machine is, well, no longer pro. Seems anyone with a machine over 2-3 years old have entered the world of the obsolete. My 'upgraded' video card in my 2006 mb is not sufficient enough to run fcp x. ATI 3870, oh well, guess I won't be trying it out anytime soon. 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664
Just to play devil's advocate here:
Apple released this stating specifically this is not so much an upgrade, but a complete redesign of the Final Cut Pro series. They released it at a VERY reasonable price.
BUT I think their heads were in the sand releasing it lacking so many important professional grade features. They may not had been as forward thinking as they should have with the professional in mind on the release. If you are going to release a professional software with complete overhaul, you probably want to make sure it has everything that is vitally needed in the software BEFORE it is released.....OR release it as a paid Beta with the very competitive price of $299 for early adapters while keeping previous versions available and supported until the general fixes are comfortably completed.
They dropped the ball on this release, but they obviously acknowledge this and are working to fix it. Offering the trial is helpful, keeping the previous version available is also key. At some point FCPX will obviously be up to spec with what professionals need, and THEN the complaints will end, but is definitely one time Apple deserves what they hear.
Apple released this stating specifically this is not so much an upgrade, but a complete redesign of the Final Cut Pro series. They released it at a VERY reasonable price.
BUT I think their heads were in the sand releasing it lacking so many important professional grade features. They may not had been as forward thinking as they should have with the professional in mind on the release. If you are going to release a professional software with complete overhaul, you probably want to make sure it has everything that is vitally needed in the software BEFORE it is released.....OR release it as a paid Beta with the very competitive price of $299 for early adapters while keeping previous versions available and supported until the general fixes are comfortably completed.
They dropped the ball on this release, but they obviously acknowledge this and are working to fix it. Offering the trial is helpful, keeping the previous version available is also key. At some point FCPX will obviously be up to spec with what professionals need, and THEN the complaints will end, but is definitely one time Apple deserves what they hear.
I am sad. Really wanted to try the trial but I was slapped in the face because my 'pro' machine is, well, no longer pro. Seems anyone with a machine over 2-3 years old have entered the world of the obsolete. My 'upgraded' video card in my 2006 mb is not sufficient enough to run fcp x. ATI 3870, oh well, guess I won't be trying it out anytime soon.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664
Get this right here:
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It's what I'm using in mine and it's the ONLY way you'll also get CUDA support for Adobe stuff if you have a 1st gen mac pro.
You're arguing with people who use software to edit pet videos and skateboarding competitions it's a losing battle.
I'm glad Apple fixed SOME of the issues but the multi-cam in 2012 just means most professionals won't switch until at least 2012.
I'm glad Apple fixed SOME of the issues but the multi-cam in 2012 just means most professionals won't switch until at least 2012.
Maybe its an oversight, but has anyone yet seen a way to export just a portion of your timeline? This is the one thing I miss in the FCPX. Everything else I'm a big fan of. I am 100% a "professional editor" and have now transitioned most of my workflow to FCPX. I still run FCP7 for a few projects that need to maintain compatibility with other editing stations, but usually I'm the one cutting and I can't tell you how much time FCPX has saved me. I just need to not have to make an entirely new project just to copy and paste in the clips i want to isolate to render.. thats all.
And enough with this "iMovie on steroids" crap. What the heck was FCP7 other than iMovie, but much more powerful?
And enough with this "iMovie on steroids" crap. What the heck was FCP7 other than iMovie, but much more powerful?
You know, Apple made only one mistake with FCPX. They called it Final Cut Pro when they should've called it Final Cut Express. They should've released it as more prosumer software than pro software and held off on the latter until it was ready for the pro market.
Honestly, I've used both FCPX and FCP7. I'll say right out that I'm not really a pro user. I was dabbling in it for a few small projects. I can say that from that standpoint, I like FCPX a whole lot better. The backend overhaul was desperately needed, the interface is easier to get into, "Render All" is no longer a constant necessity, and it actually works seamlessly with H.264 video. Like I said, I'm not going into this as a pro user, but more as the prosumer. If Apple had aimed FCPX at that market as FCEX then there would have been a lot less griping.
Honestly, I've used both FCPX and FCP7. I'll say right out that I'm not really a pro user. I was dabbling in it for a few small projects. I can say that from that standpoint, I like FCPX a whole lot better. The backend overhaul was desperately needed, the interface is easier to get into, "Render All" is no longer a constant necessity, and it actually works seamlessly with H.264 video. Like I said, I'm not going into this as a pro user, but more as the prosumer. If Apple had aimed FCPX at that market as FCEX then there would have been a lot less griping.
I must be really good...
I use any program to compile video and audio, that's it. I make wonderful spots on this piece of crap Edius system here at work! How? Easy! I edit in my effects and titles in After Effects (and Photoshop). Then, I bring that file into *INSERT NAME OF SYSTEM HERE* and then bring in the audio (which I've mastered in Audition) and match them up...good to go. To me, if you are using Premiere/Final Cut/ Edius/Avid to do more than compile finished pieces - you are waiting your time or don't know how to edit with anything other than PRESETS.
Josh
I use any program to compile video and audio, that's it. I make wonderful spots on this piece of crap Edius system here at work! How? Easy! I edit in my effects and titles in After Effects (and Photoshop). Then, I bring that file into *INSERT NAME OF SYSTEM HERE* and then bring in the audio (which I've mastered in Audition) and match them up...good to go. To me, if you are using Premiere/Final Cut/ Edius/Avid to do more than compile finished pieces - you are waiting your time or don't know how to edit with anything other than PRESETS.
Josh
Can someone help me? It's showing up in the UK MAS and both FCPX and Motion are showing the 'installed' button but for some reason Compressor isn't even though that's installed too. I can't see any updates for them when I go to the updates section? Can someone help please?
I've seen this movie before ...
... when "typography" was obsoleted by Apple & Adobe with the MacPlus and PageMaker. It doesn't end well for those who do not adapt*.
Just saying ...
*Sometimes "new paradigms" are worth learning. What's that old saying, oh ya, "Adapt, or perish."
... when "typography" was obsoleted by Apple & Adobe with the MacPlus and PageMaker. It doesn't end well for those who do not adapt*.
Just saying ...
*Sometimes "new paradigms" are worth learning. What's that old saying, oh ya, "Adapt, or perish."
exporting XML to COLOR?
Does anyone know if the new XML-support will enable you to send a project to COLOR?
I am honestly not to worried about the editing capabilities of FCPX - they'll get it right eventually. I've already edited a few projects on it - and I like, although it is not perfect yet ... and until then, I will just use FCP7
But cutting out COLOR makes me worried!! The color-grading in FCPX is horrible, cumbersome and no way near COLOR. And probably never will be!! So, I am hoping to slowly migrate to FCPX, but keep using COLOR - if possible !?!?
Does anyone know if the new XML-support will enable you to send a project to COLOR?
I am honestly not to worried about the editing capabilities of FCPX - they'll get it right eventually. I've already edited a few projects on it - and I like, although it is not perfect yet ... and until then, I will just use FCP7
But cutting out COLOR makes me worried!! The color-grading in FCPX is horrible, cumbersome and no way near COLOR. And probably never will be!! So, I am hoping to slowly migrate to FCPX, but keep using COLOR - if possible !?!?
Most of the defenders I see of fcpx are small independent editors. Bottom line is that fcpx cut tons of major tools out from under the editors in larger production houses that were necessary everyday things that they need to use keep their production pipeline running smoothly.
Of course if you're a small one man/two man operation you can be more adaptive. Many companies do not operate in this way and are collaborating with other offices and studios with their own professional specifications that projects need to comply with.
Of course if you're a small one man/two man operation you can be more adaptive. Many companies do not operate in this way and are collaborating with other offices and studios with their own professional specifications that projects need to comply with.
give Apple some time
Give FCPX some time to evolve and grow.
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. The inverse proposition also appears to be true: A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be made to work. You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system.
-Carl Emil
Give FCPX some time to evolve and grow.
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. The inverse proposition also appears to be true: A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be made to work. You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system.
-Carl Emil
I agree with you, and I think you hit the nail on the head.
The big disconnect is that both these types of people/editors (both the ones who are independent and the ones who work for large production houses) are considered PROFESSIONAL EDITORS, and rightfully so... they both edit video for money in a professional context. So when people gripe about FCPX not being for Pro editors, it's only partially true. The issue is, who gives Apple more money in the end... Production houses who are buying large seats of licenses, or individual pro editors? This is who Apple focuses on, and I think the answer is pretty clear given their recent trends.
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Also, does anyone know how to trigger FCPX to update? the MAS sees both FCPX and Motion as being installed on my machine, but it only prompted me to update Motion and I can't find a way to install the update to FCPX manually, thru the MAS, or thru apple software update?
Anyone have similar issues?
I am 94% a professional editor. At first I was very angry so I changed over 20 editing suites to Adobe Premier. The cost was huge, the training was expensive, but now that this FCPX update came out, I find that I made a mistake changing over to Adobe. I am now changing back to FCPX for all 20 editing suites and my corner office. By the end of the day, all my machines will be back on FCPX. Accounting is asking why I spent so much money based on emotion. I told them to FtheFOff. I am the manager.
ETA: I have edited over 150 shows to boot.
ETA: I have edited over 150 shows to boot.
I personally disagree.. I'm a pro.. and I'm using it.
I think X is a fantastic piece of software and am welcoming it 100%. Knee jerk reaction for sure, but I took it on as a challenge, honestly I now hate when I have to go back to 7. Once you submit to its way of thinking you'll start to understand that Apple actually did know what they were doing (missing features and botched release aside).
Right. Did you think that any of those companies were going to immediately switch over to a dramatically new version of Final Cut anyway?
I'm starting to understand Apple's moves here as being a bit more sophisticated and nuanced than most detractors are giving them credit for. Who would think - legions of internal marketing and development teams actually know more about releasing products than random, anonymous Internet users?
1) They release a major upgrade to a piece of software at an excellent price point, fully expecting smaller-scale users to be the first ones to switch. They know that certain features won't make this x.0 version, but that won't stop plenty of casual users from testing the waters. It's also the perfect chance to test the product in the field before it gets picked up by major studios.
2) Over the next few months/years, they release the "key" features that will allow higher and higher tiers of editing shops to migrate their processes. Today we get XML, XSAN, etc. Next year it'll be multi-cam and who knows what else.
3) Within a few years, FCP 7 will be a memory of the past, and younger editors will have been trained on FCP X from the outset. Larger studios, at least the ones who weren't on Avid to begin with, will switch over. Some major motion film will be finished in FCP X, and finally it'll be a true replacement for its predecessor.
Sounds like a damn good plan, actually.
I'm running System Updates and going to the App Store and I'm not seeing the update for FCPX...I got the Motion update but no go here. Any ideas?
Since I have never tried it, might as well give it a shot. Got rid of my mac pro's so hope my 2010 mini w/8gb ram will do. No a pro but have edited weddings and stuff. Anyone know if AIC will import since I don't have the original footage anymore? Been using iMovie 6 with plug ins for years that work pretty good. Tried FCE but didn't care for it. Took longer to edit but still came out good. Guess I will find out after the download.