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Nice ad, but...

At six seconds into the video, when the little boy says "Hi, Grandpa," look at the screen on the phone. You can see the grandparents, and then in the tiny secondary view of the person making the call, you can see ... a grown man! :eek: :D


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That would be the grown man holding the iPhone. Look at all the hands on the left side of the frame. It appears to me that a man and woman are holding their two kids. You can see a woman's hand holding the "hi Grandpa" kid, and another baby's arm next to him.

I think that the ad should have showed that the grandparents could use FaceTime to see their grandkids, rather than show the first few moments of the call - before the parents turned the phone toward the kids - but I don't think you spotted any shenanigans.
 
Face time is kind of superfluous when you could just use skype.
Skype is superfluous when your phone comes with FaceTime built in and it's much better quality. Why download a 3rd party app if you don't have to? I recently HAD to Skype with a friend in Tokyo (I'm in Osaka) and the reception was soooo FN piss poor. There was a constant loud whirring noise and the video was very pixelated. Japan has really fast fibre and this was late at night when there's not much traffic. I FaceTime with my mum back home and it's quite good. Not perfect but much better than Skype. The audio is flawless and the video is quite good. The only thing Skype is good for is cheap international phone numbers.
 
I was just going to say something along the lines of this. I think I've used Facetime only a few times since it came out. I did use it while I was down in Central America last summer, but I don't think I've used it since.

I was actually wondering how often the people on here actually use it? Do you guys use Facetime on a regular basis?

My mom calls me everyday and we talk for at least half an hour, she calls my aunties three times a week as well. I used it to chat with my friends on the weekend.

Fine but it won't ever be an option for me until it is cross-platform. Not all of my friends have iPhones.

I agree. Some of my friends don't have Apple devices so we use Skype or Google Hangout sometimes, or SMS and regular call. But with the people who do have access to facetime, we never want to use any other thing, it smooth, stable and the video quality is much better.
 
Apple is selling more devices than it ever has. Just the market got bigger overall with cheap junk phones and tablets overflowing it. Lets not even begin to get into actual usage data which clearly shows iOS as the winner by far.

Here's what Apple sold in the last quarter:

- 31.2 million iPhones (down from 37.4 million sold in the first quarter of 2013)
- 14.7 million iPads (down from 17 million sold a year ago)
- 3.8 million Macs (down from 4 million sold a year ago)

profits are down 18%.

Apple is NOT selling more than ever - they're selling considerably fewer devices than they used to. At the same time, they're bleeding market share in the phone and tablet sector - both of which have grown considerably while Apple has been selling fewer devices. The computer market share has stagnated somewhere below 5% in an overall shrinking market.

So please stop trolling here.
 
Really cool to see how FaceTime has given us more options to communicate without required plans from carriers.

Really interested to see how FaceTime Voice Only in iOS 7 will shape that even more, and how the carriers will respond.
 
Apple is selling more devices than it ever has. Just the market got bigger overall with cheap junk phones and tablets overflowing it. Lets not even begin to get into actual usage data which clearly shows iOS as the winner by far.

The usage data only shows that iOS users consume more Internet bandwidth than others, and that can mean anything and nothing. It could mean that those Apple products don't work properly without an Internet connection, it could mean that IOS users spend more time on YouTube than others or play more online games. But it certainly doesn't show in any way that iOS is "the winner by far".

But yes, the market got bigger and it now also includes the vast majority of the human race -- who happen to live in second and third world countries where people will never have the money to buy an Apple product. That's the reason why all those cheap "junk" phones are now being produced and sold: To bring communication technology to those who were not born with a golden piss pot under their beds. That's something that Apple (and its average customer base) very clearly will never care about.

Facetime vs Skype:
Facetime only works on Apple gadgets, Skype works everywhere. You don't need to be a genius to figure out which solution will win this competition, even if the other one might actually work better in some cases and regions.

Hint: It won't be the one that only works on one rather expensive platform.

Eventually, open platforms will ALWAYS win.
 
Here's what Apple sold in the last quarter:

- 31.2 million iPhones (down from 37.4 million sold in the first quarter of 2013)
- 14.7 million iPads (down from 17 million sold a year ago)
- 3.8 million Macs (down from 4 million sold a year ago)

profits are down 18%.

Apple is NOT selling more than ever - they're selling considerably fewer devices than they used to. At the same time, they're bleeding market share in the phone and tablet sector - both of which have grown considerably while Apple has been selling fewer devices. The computer market share has stagnated somewhere below 5% in an overall shrinking market.

So please stop trolling here.

The losses is because of LOWER MARGINS.

The Mac marketshare is stagnating at around 6-7%, not below 5%.

So please stop trolling here.
 
Here's what Apple sold in the last quarter:

- 31.2 million iPhones (down from 37.4 million sold in the first quarter of 2013)
- 14.7 million iPads (down from 17 million sold a year ago)
- 3.8 million Macs (down from 4 million sold a year ago)

profits are down 18%.

Apple is NOT selling more than ever - they're selling considerably fewer devices than they used to. At the same time, they're bleeding market share in the phone and tablet sector - both of which have grown considerably while Apple has been selling fewer devices. The computer market share has stagnated somewhere below 5% in an overall shrinking market.

So please stop trolling here.

The Company sold 31.2 million iPhones, a record for the June quarter, compared to 26 million in the year-ago quarter. Apple also sold 14.6 million iPads during the quarter, compared to 17 million in the year-ago quarter. The Company sold 3.8 million Macs, compared to 4 million in the year-ago quarter.

5.2 mill more than last year with iPhone. 2.4 mill less iPads, and 200k less Macs.

Thats 2.6 million more devices.
 
What in the $*%# are you talking about?

Macs were NEVER anywhere near the #1 selling PCs, and they never advertised as such. Maybe #1 for education, but nothing else.

(Only from 1977 to 1980 when the Apple II was around, and there was no such thing as an IBM PC would Apple been the #1 selling PC. But after 1981, Apple was never best selling. It's been over 30 years since Apple had 'dominance')

A chill pill tends to work for your issues. Try one. It's really not that serious. :cool:

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These kind of ads I really like, Apple focusing on what their product can do vs. Nokia's ridiculous ad showing, "My camera is better than Your Camera".
 
Eventually, open platforms will ALWAYS win.

I'd love if this were the case! But where is it? :(

Years and years after skype set the standard for voice/video over a data connection, we still don't have a real alternative... And the world is crying out for a skype that isn't skype!

Why on earth have hangouts decided that listing by conversation is better than listing by contacts (unless I'm missing something huge here).
Open audio and video codecs that are scalable and comparable (better...) than anything proprietary have always existed, so where is our defacto oss client/solution?
 
Why does almost everybody keep bringing up Skype over FaceTime? Yes it is offered on more platforms, I use it everyday for business calls but there's no video chat on the iPhone version of Skype so what's the point here? :confused:
 
I bet they could slip a Samsung phone into one of these ads and no one would notice.
 
Why does almost everybody keep bringing up Skype over FaceTime? Yes it is offered on more platforms, I use it everyday for business calls but there's no video chat on the iPhone version of Skype so what's the point here? :confused:

Ummm, of course there's video calling on skype's iphone client, has been for years.
To reverse your argument, how is facetime even comparable (pre-ios7?) when it doesn't allow (proper) voice-only calls? Almost as silly as another previous comment that said that facetime on the iphone was the first native implementation of video calling on a mobile phone :)
 
Ummm, of course there's video calling on skype's iphone client, has been for years.
To reverse your argument, how is facetime even comparable (pre-ios7?) when it doesn't allow (proper) voice-only calls? Almost as silly as another previous comment that said that facetime on the iphone was the first native implementation of video calling :)

He was probably meaning in relation to this ad.
 
Exactly. Most smartphones have basically the same features these days, but what makes iPhones stand out to me is that they're just straight-up easier to use. You can complain that they're not customizable enough until you're blue in the face, but ultimately, at least in my experience, they work. They do what you need them to do and do it quickly by cutting away all the clutter that can possibly be cut. I've used several Android phones and the main thing I noticed was that they're a lot like iPhones but with more clutter. More menus to navigate, essentially twice as many home screens (in the case of the Galaxy S phones, there's an app screen like iPhone's and an Android home screen on top of it for no reason), and a bunch of junk that makes it harder to navigate for your joe-average user. It's not that I CAN'T navigate Android, it's that I'd RATHER not have to navigate at all-which is how I feel using my iPhone. I've had multiple Android users come to me asking how to change a setting or something, and I'm able to do it for them. The thing is, I don't get iPhone users doing the same thing nearly as much, and I know a lot of iPhone users.

Not to be a fanboy... which this post definitely came off as... but I guess I'm on this site for a reason. :D

"It just works." :apple:

/fanboy soapbox



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If you don't mind using the king of dropped calls...

Probably shouldn't feed the trolls. :p









Thank you! This is exactly how I feel as well. Most phones do the same thing, but what makes them different, or special, is the way they do it! The experience, and I believe Apple has that. And yes.. I have had many Android phones up to a year ago before I switched to the iPhone. Happy with it, and sticking with it.
 
If that's not a stupid reason, I don't know what is.

FaceTime works. FaceTime is probably on more phones than Skype, because Skype has to be intentionally downloaded, but FaceTime is just there for iOS devices.

If I want to make a call and a friend has an iOS device - no brainer, it will work. If my friend has an Android device, different story. Most of my friends don't have Skype or any other video calling software installed, thus I can't video call them. FaceTime wins.

I see you're under the emotional effect of the video ad. come back tomorrow with a non-hormonal reply.
 
grandma, just download tango... it's an app. yes, you download it on your phone... yes, your iPhone. From the App Store... The blue button that looks like an 'A'...10 min. laterYes, click the install button. What? No, I don't know your password... Who set up your phone? no no, your iPhone...another 10 min. laterScrew it, i'll call you on facetime.
Wow, if she's really that bad off she should be using a Jitterbug.
 
I was actually wondering how often the people on here actually use it? Do you guys use Facetime on a regular basis?

Yes, once or twice every two weeks.

At the minimum, it definitely beats the cost of international calling by a huge mile. Sometimes our Facetime conversations go over an hour. Then add on the benefits of seeing each other, possibly collaborating on things.

Just last week, two households needed to decide on some cabinet type and color. We could not get anyone to agree on anything by email. Then on facetime, both of us got on the web, looked at pages, occasionally pointing the phone to the PC, pointing at things for the right type and color etc. (I think) We came to some agreement after half an hour of talking about it! ( We needed to use the rear facing camera for such things, thanks Apple for making that switch so intuitive and easy).

For this purpose, we could have used screen sharing etc. but that is all too geeky a stuff for my counter party. Icing on the cake, I put them on my big screen TV using Apple TV, so a few of us on my side can participate in this family activity.

So it is not about technology. It is about getting day to day things done, in whatever way it feels comfortable to people.

Whenever I use Facetime across continents, it indeed feels a bit unreal that it is even possible to do this. I wonder if iPhone owners know about Facetime enough to put it to use.

So, I very much agree with basic message of the Apple Facetime Apple commercial. And this should inform people that this great feature exists and they should use it to enrich their lives.

One thing Apple can do to surface this feature better is to properly integrate this with the Phone app. It is currently not intuitive on the iPhone how to setup a Facetime call. Since the experience is similar to a phone call, it is probably better to have a button right on the Phone app.
 
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