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Apple Releases New MacBook Pros with Santa Rosa
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You could also say they're charging 20% more for 10% more speed, 25% more HD, and 50% more video RAM...
But yeah, usually the base models are the best values at the time of product release. They'll do everything you want, and for once, the memory specs on the base model is acceptable. (Usually you have to upgrade the RAM of the base model.)
Then for the older products (i.e. refurbs, closeouts, etc) the high end model is the best value because of the discounting, as compared to the current systems. So if you're looking at the Special Deals, look at the formerly higher end stuff.
But yeah, usually the base models are the best values at the time of product release. They'll do everything you want, and for once, the memory specs on the base model is acceptable. (Usually you have to upgrade the RAM of the base model.)
Then for the older products (i.e. refurbs, closeouts, etc) the high end model is the best value because of the discounting, as compared to the current systems. So if you're looking at the Special Deals, look at the formerly higher end stuff.
The interesting thing is though, the 160gb 5400rpm vs 200gb 4200rpm, once you fill it to 74gb, barefeats have shown the 200gb is faster than the 160, the transfer rate has dropped to 30mb/s or so i think, but it's faster. So it's more the transfer rate than the spin speed.
Anyone see any benchmarks on the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT? I'm looking for some that will tell me if the $500 for 256mb of graphics memory is worth it- I hope to be gaming on the system in windows, which that chip should be able to do fairly well.
The way around dropped frames during import on such a slow drive is to capture to a clean partition. I did this on a Wallstreet (with a third party 466MHz chip) running a 4200rpm drive. This also helps with playback too.
As for external drives, I'd get a 3.5" 7200rpm drive. If one insists on a 2.5" external, then yes, nothing slower than 5400rpm.
The refurb prices didn't go down today though.
It's still a better deal to get the low-end Santa Rosa model.
The 8600M GT is good. You'll want as much video RAM as you can get.
i ordered with 160gb 5400 drive then read here about everyone waiting for 7200rpm dirves......went away did research and can't believe everyone is waiting 6 weeks for such cack extra performance! Once I have a clear idea of what dirves the 5400 and 7200 are i will post bench marks
Indeed the extra performance vs shorter battery life is really not worth the £80+ upgrade.
Indeed the extra performance vs shorter battery life is really not worth the £80+ upgrade.
Never said you did treat me like a college student, but you don't have to brush comments off like you are above them because you work in the industry. Plenty of other folks round here do to.
The iMac has better hardware period. What else needs to be said. It is a desktop built from half desktop and half laptop parts with much bigger fans that keep it running a lot cooler.
And when it comes to video editing, the two most important things to consider are the HDD you are dumping the video to, and the RAM for rendering and playback. Since the RAM is the same on both machines, the HDD will be the kicker for the iMac... bigger, cheaper, faster HDD. Not to mention a bigger, sharper, clearer, screen. Combine that with the fact that the iMac has more usable space for other components like FW and USB ports, and speakers (the cute stuff) you will have a better machine, for less money, that can hands down out perform a laptop of any kind. Maybe not a Lieberman, but who wants to pay $10,000 for a laptop?
Whether it be Windows, Linux, or MacOS X, Dell, HP, or Apple... the desktop is just built stronger and for more expansion than the laptop ever will be. Even if you stick the same components in both machines and change only the HDD, the desktop will be the winner in video editing when it comes for specs, price, and expansion.
You do know what you are talking about with this stuff... I am finding it hard to believe that we are even arguing this point.
Really? Everything I've read pointed to monthly developer CDs as well as any OS updates.
If that's the case then I may as well buy Leopard for the student price as well.
Glad to be on the same level then. I'm not one to brush off comments. I apologize if I did.
The only desktop component in the iMac is the hard drive.
Which is why I was asking about MBP. Vs. iMac. Expect some flak for that comment.
What is everyone's advice?
I definitely want a 15inch MBP I just don't know whether to wait for the WWDC Keynote in regards to Leopard/Software promotions/coupons???
Any help would be appreciated
I definitely want a 15inch MBP I just don't know whether to wait for the WWDC Keynote in regards to Leopard/Software promotions/coupons???
Any help would be appreciated
I just got the new MBP.. canceled my online order and purchased it from the local apple store
i'm at work right now but the black levels on it look amazing.
pics please!
You have balls man...
I had to capture on my iBook and hated it.I would also recomment a full size drive since they are much cheaper and offer much more space and the dollar/GB ratio has gotten ridiculously low. They do offer 2.5" drives that run at 7200rpm but they are hundreds of dollars more.
O rly?
I could be wrong, but from what I've seen on the site, the iMacs across the board were spec'd pretty similar to their respective MBP's in a lineup, which isn't surprising, since the iMacs also use lappy components, with the exception of the desktop HDD. The iMac has never been THAT much more powerful than the Macbook Pro to run circles around it. If anything, I'd say they'd pretty much stay neck and neck.
I would hope that hardware alone would make it run faster, if at all true, since I was under the impression that both iMacs and Macbook pros came equipped with the same exact OS.
Not unless you buy one after it's announced - even then they make you pay like $10.00. That's how it's been in the past...
Yep, I'm not dumb, but the question really is is it worth $433? Up intil about 6 months ago I was running on my desktop gaming box a ati 9800pro with 128mb of memory, then i got the x850pro with 256. Yeah, I noticed a difference, i was able to run my games at higher resolutions- and Yeah, in the future it's only gonna need more memory, but really, is it such a big jump that it's worth it? I'm not expecting to play at ultimate resolutions, 1024x768 ish is good enough, you know?
Bought the new LED Macbook Pro
I saw that the macbook pros had been updated so I went out and bought one! Its awesome....the specs are
15.4 in LED
160GB HDD
2.4GHz
2GB RAM
The screen is amazing. It is bright and clear and evenly lit unlike the older macbook pros. It is extremely fast!
I LOVE IT!
I saw that the macbook pros had been updated so I went out and bought one! Its awesome....the specs are
15.4 in LED
160GB HDD
2.4GHz
2GB RAM
The screen is amazing. It is bright and clear and evenly lit unlike the older macbook pros. It is extremely fast!
I LOVE IT!
O rly?
Which iMac are you talking about specifically? The base model is all around spec'd well under the current MBP. I could be wrong, but from what I've seen on the site, the iMacs across the board were spec'd pretty similar to their respective MBP's in a lineup, which isn't surprising, since the iMacs also use lappy components, with the exception of the desktop HDD. The iMac has never been THAT much more powerful than the Macbook Pro to run circles around it. If anything, I'd say they'd pretty much stay neck and neck.
I would hope that hardware alone would make it run faster, if at all true, since I was under the impression that both iMacs and Macbook pros came equipped with the same exact OS.
If the redesign rumors are true, I would guess the new iMacs will move away from the laptop components. Apple would be able to increase their margins by switching to the desktop stuff. It would increase the performance disparity, but one is a desktop and the other is a laptop - people should expect a disparity...
first post on a forum from my new 2.4 GHz 15" MacBook Pro!
So...pending photos, what benchmarks should I run? At work now, camera is at home
Take a mirror and use the Isight to take pics
Kidding, but how about some gaming benches or audio encoding
With a thinner, brushed metal model? Which rumors?
I hit a texture quality wall long before I hit a resolution one.
The 8600 is about a $100-$125 relative value - I wouldn't spend 5 times that just to double the memory...
Thanks man, that's exactly the kind of information I needed to make an informed decision. Dropped frames aren't going to cut it, and I'm glad you pointed out that the HDD speed would affect FCP as well even if on external. But yes, I'm on FCP, so I'll be getting the 160 (either speed) it looks like! Thanks for your help!
Hmm.. now there's an interesting solution. As soon as I'm not worried about paying for rent, I'll be all over that. Thanks!