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Apple Releases New MacBook Pros with Santa Rosa
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Absolutely. WoW isn't that demanding a game; heck, my old Sony Vaio S360 with a 64MB Mobility Radeon 9700 could even play WoW smoothly.
The 8600M GT, even with only 128MB of VRAM, should have absolutely no problem with WoW.
Really my current PC with AMD 64x2 2.21 GHZ Vista 7800 GTX 256MB sometimes gives me some lagging problems but maybe cause I have the settings really high also could be Vista as well. I love playing Wow i just wanna be sure if I get the 128MB it wont hiccup or lag when I play it.
How about on the 17"MBP with the 1900 x 1200 High Res Display? Anyone think this is a No No for 3d gaming? I'm no mad gam3r but will indulge here and there, nothing major Doom3, BF1942, Civ3 etc..
I have read through the posts...but haven't seen anyone say yes or no to my question...
Has anyone that ordered their new MBP this morning had it shipped? My iPod has shipped, but not the MBP...
Has anyone that ordered their new MBP this morning had it shipped? My iPod has shipped, but not the MBP...
Why? I would think that 3D games would look spectacular at 1900 x 1200. The GPU should produce excellent frame rates even at these resolutions.
Why are you worried about the 17"?
Any chance of a 13inch MBP or an ultraportable any time soon
I am in a bit of a bind on what to buy and hoping for smaller macbook pro (13inch) or lighter. Any chance of one coming out this summer, especially as news reports said Apple was buying 13 inch LEDs (for what?)?
I am impressed with the new Macbook Pro 15inch, but the footprint and weight are a bit high. The 13inch Macbook is not bad, but not a real update and almost the same weight (so hard to justify buying).
I'll charge whatever I buy to work so money is not an issue between them. Just balancing weight and portability vs. screen size and improved performance on the MBPs.
What do you guys realistically guess is the chance of a lighter mac portable either at WWDC or later this summer?
Thoughts or suggestions guys? Thanks, its appreciated.
I am in a bit of a bind on what to buy and hoping for smaller macbook pro (13inch) or lighter. Any chance of one coming out this summer, especially as news reports said Apple was buying 13 inch LEDs (for what?)?
I am impressed with the new Macbook Pro 15inch, but the footprint and weight are a bit high. The 13inch Macbook is not bad, but not a real update and almost the same weight (so hard to justify buying).
I'll charge whatever I buy to work so money is not an issue between them. Just balancing weight and portability vs. screen size and improved performance on the MBPs.
What do you guys realistically guess is the chance of a lighter mac portable either at WWDC or later this summer?
Thoughts or suggestions guys? Thanks, its appreciated.
Good update - definitely my next computer purchase. I plan on picking one up within the next few weeks.
After waiting so long and my sanity going down the drain since March I finally have my first Mac.
I wanted the 17'' originally but some of those changes just didn't justify the newer prices so I went ahead and settled on the stock model higher end 15'' and I just couldn't wait for something to be delievered. So I ran to an Apple store and bought. Couldn't be happier and there is a lot to get used to. Here's to a new life on a Mac
I wanted the 17'' originally but some of those changes just didn't justify the newer prices so I went ahead and settled on the stock model higher end 15'' and I just couldn't wait for something to be delievered. So I ran to an Apple store and bought. Couldn't be happier and there is a lot to get used to. Here's to a new life on a Mac
If you can afford it - by all means.
There's redundancy - if one of them is in the shop, you can still use the other.
There's backup (another form of redundancy) - if you keep your files sync'd across both, when a disk fails or if the laptop is stolen you still have all of your files.
There's performance - laptop drives are *awful* compared to what's available for desktops and external drives, and desktops can have much larger and more useful screens. To me, laptops are about portability, and a 17" laptop would only be interesting to me if it were waterproof and heatproof so that it could double as a surfboard and an ironing board. As a computer, it's just too big to even consider;.
I'm pretty close to affording it. I just hate having to keep both synchronized. Then there's the video card issue with the MacBook. I see 15.4" as being huge as it is. I'm not terribly concerned with drive space on a laptop. After thinking about it, I'm terrified about damaging an Apple laptop. I see so many PowerBooks and MacBook Pros with dents. It almost makes it pointless to take it out of the house.
Refurbished MacBook...eh. I hate the GMA950 too much.
4200 or 5400 or 7200 rpm
You can get good reviews about best laptop hard drives currently on market from the links I posted here
http://digg.com/hardware/Best_Laptop_Notebook_hard_drives_a_recent_review/
My take, forget about 4200 or 5400 rpm, get 7200 rpm - either Hitachi 7k100 or Seagate 7200.1 FTW!
You can get good reviews about best laptop hard drives currently on market from the links I posted here
http://digg.com/hardware/Best_Laptop_Notebook_hard_drives_a_recent_review/
My take, forget about 4200 or 5400 rpm, get 7200 rpm - either Hitachi 7k100 or Seagate 7200.1 FTW!
FSB & RAM = Memory Controller Limitations
I haven't read through all 47 pages (wow) yet, so in case no one has answered you yet, here is the answer:
Intel has a 667 MHz memory controller built into the chipset that effectively limits the throughput from the CPU to the RAM despite the higher (800 MHz) FSB. It is likely the memory controller will be increased to 800 MHz with the SR revision when Penryn is released.
See this thread.
Also, see read these URLs posted by Eidorian:
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/GM965/index.htm
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ile_platform/2
I haven't read through all 47 pages (wow) yet, so in case no one has answered you yet, here is the answer:
Intel has a 667 MHz memory controller built into the chipset that effectively limits the throughput from the CPU to the RAM despite the higher (800 MHz) FSB. It is likely the memory controller will be increased to 800 MHz with the SR revision when Penryn is released.
See this thread.
Also, see read these URLs posted by Eidorian:
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/GM965/index.htm
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ile_platform/2
Just a possible warning..
Tread verrrrry carefully if you want to do triple booting with Refit. For some reason Refit installs okay but no menu appears and both endpoints (that is, the main partition AND the "Windows" partition) end up going to the Boot Camp partition ONLY and you can't access OS X anymore.
Of course, I might have done something wrong, but it was all pretty straightforward and to the letter as usual.. so it might be an issue with the SR MBPs and using Refit/Boot Camp.
Time to reinstall OS X from scratch and all the apps again for me ;-)
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Update: Booting to the reinstall disk, choosing "Startup Disk" and choosing the OS X partition did the trick.. even though no entries from the regular "Option" Boot Camp menu work after installing rEFIt. So I've got OS X back, but need to do a post mortem and/or work out how to get rid of rEFIt ;-)
Tread verrrrry carefully if you want to do triple booting with Refit. For some reason Refit installs okay but no menu appears and both endpoints (that is, the main partition AND the "Windows" partition) end up going to the Boot Camp partition ONLY and you can't access OS X anymore.
Of course, I might have done something wrong, but it was all pretty straightforward and to the letter as usual.. so it might be an issue with the SR MBPs and using Refit/Boot Camp.
Time to reinstall OS X from scratch and all the apps again for me ;-)
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Update: Booting to the reinstall disk, choosing "Startup Disk" and choosing the OS X partition did the trick.. even though no entries from the regular "Option" Boot Camp menu work after installing rEFIt. So I've got OS X back, but need to do a post mortem and/or work out how to get rid of rEFIt ;-)
I did it -- first Mac in 15 years, from a Centris 610 to.....
Any thoughts about the following?
1. 15.4" C2D 2.4 Glossy
2. 2GB RAM -- plan to upgrade to 4GB (though the Apple Store rep said that I could only use "Apple Certified" memory so as not to void my warranty) -- what 3rd party memory is "Apple Certified", and this sounds hokey anyway, what gives?
3. 160GB 5400 RPM drive -- this is where I'd like some counseling and consolation from the group. I needed the computer now rather than in 4 weeks when there would of course be some problem and I'd have to send it back, leaving me Mac-less for longer. I rationalized that I could always upgrade the HD via an Apple certified shop and with an Apple certified drive (one Genius said this is true, another said not true, so any clarification would be great). I don't do significant audio/video editing, but do do some, and hope I don't take a huge hit. This one factor delayed my purchase all day, but I finally thought that the 5400 wouldn't be bad (would use external 7200 anyway for significant work and to back stuff up anyway). I'm staring at the unopened box still sweating the decision (10% restock fee if opened). I hope I made the right decision with the 5400. 4200 perpendicular architecture was a strong consideration and I did read the logic from many others today and while theoretically sound, didn't find hard data corroborating the theory. Thought 5400 was good compromise.
4. AppleCare -- when does AppleCare kick in anyway ?-- after the 1 yr warranty on the computer runs out, or right away? Should I have therefore waited a year to get Apple Care?
Also:
5. an 80Gig black iPod $150 after $199 rebate (is there another iPod revision due soon? -- what is expected in revision? if anything significant will save this one unopened and sell on eBay when new one comes out and use proceeds to buy new one),
6. one of the basically free Canon printers ($9.95 after rebate), the MP460
7. and a MagSafe airline adapter.
All sitting unopened (have infant son very time demanding need to wait till he is asleep).
Total with institutional discount after tax right at $3000 (for computer and acessories, not infant son )
Any thoughts about the following?
1. 15.4" C2D 2.4 Glossy
2. 2GB RAM -- plan to upgrade to 4GB (though the Apple Store rep said that I could only use "Apple Certified" memory so as not to void my warranty) -- what 3rd party memory is "Apple Certified", and this sounds hokey anyway, what gives?
3. 160GB 5400 RPM drive -- this is where I'd like some counseling and consolation from the group. I needed the computer now rather than in 4 weeks when there would of course be some problem and I'd have to send it back, leaving me Mac-less for longer. I rationalized that I could always upgrade the HD via an Apple certified shop and with an Apple certified drive (one Genius said this is true, another said not true, so any clarification would be great). I don't do significant audio/video editing, but do do some, and hope I don't take a huge hit. This one factor delayed my purchase all day, but I finally thought that the 5400 wouldn't be bad (would use external 7200 anyway for significant work and to back stuff up anyway). I'm staring at the unopened box still sweating the decision (10% restock fee if opened). I hope I made the right decision with the 5400. 4200 perpendicular architecture was a strong consideration and I did read the logic from many others today and while theoretically sound, didn't find hard data corroborating the theory. Thought 5400 was good compromise.
4. AppleCare -- when does AppleCare kick in anyway ?-- after the 1 yr warranty on the computer runs out, or right away? Should I have therefore waited a year to get Apple Care?
Also:
5. an 80Gig black iPod $150 after $199 rebate (is there another iPod revision due soon? -- what is expected in revision? if anything significant will save this one unopened and sell on eBay when new one comes out and use proceeds to buy new one),
6. one of the basically free Canon printers ($9.95 after rebate), the MP460
7. and a MagSafe airline adapter.
All sitting unopened (have infant son very time demanding need to wait till he is asleep).
Total with institutional discount after tax right at $3000 (for computer and acessories, not infant son
)My disk results were quite low (26.97) on my 2.4 MBP, and I'm not sure why. Perhaps Spotlight was indexing the drive? I had just completed the Migration Assistant. I'll run again later and see if my results change.
Yeah, but ask just about anyone here, and they'll suggest either VLC or MPlayer.
FJR1300, Santa Rosa really isn't a marketing term, and looking at Apple's website, you can see why the wouldn't use it. But the 800MHz Front side bus coupled with the 2.2 and 2.4 GHz processors, coupled with the new max RAM of 4GB are all results of the new chipset (Santa Rosa)
diamond.g beat me to it.
Don't buy 800MHz RAM as it will never be fully utilized in this laptop because of the memory controller in the current SR chipset.
Also according to Intel, DDR-3 will not be used until the release of the Montevina platform.