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Magic Trackpads are pretty much standard requirement now for desktop Macs in my opinion. If you are using just a Magic Mouse you are always going to miss out, there just isn't enough room to pull off anything but really basic gestures.


I tried Magic Trackpad with my iMac i can't say i'm comfortable with it on a desk. Also Apple is cutting corners even with basic gestures for Magic Mouse. I have Jitouch installed on Snow Leopard (also works with Lion) all gestures i have set up with it work just fine: 2 / 3 finger swipes, clicks, taps all kinds of combinations work just fine in about 95 times out of 100. I'd say it's pretty good accuracy.
 
ah i don't like it. wastes my precious SSD with only 128GB. well i hope they include on in the usb stick when i buy the new macbook air in the future.

The recovery partition does not contain install files--you have to download it. The partition itself is about 1 GB.
 
I tried Magic Trackpad with my iMac i can't say i'm comfortable with it on a desk. Also Apple is cutting corners even with basic gestures for Magic Mouse. I have Jitouch installed on Snow Leopard (also works with Lion) all gestures i have set up with it work just fine: 2 / 3 finger swipes, clicks, taps all kinds of combinations work just fine in about 95 times out of 100. I'd say it's pretty good accuracy.

Yes and that might be good enough for you but for a lot of users it might not be. Apple is going to put whatever gestures it feels are comfortable to use on the Magic Mouse.

The good news is there will always be stuff like Jitouch out there to give you what you want. In the mean time I doubt Apple is happy with the limited experience that the Magic Mouse would give Lion users, and are probably going to make a major push for the Magic Trackpad like I said.
 
Yes and that might be good enough for you but for a lot of users it might not be. Apple is going to put whatever gestures it feels are comfortable to use on the Magic Mouse.

You know if you put it as an option some one might like it too, no one is asking for some geeky gestures turned on by default. I think it's not that hard to understand. Magic Mouse really can handle 3 finger swipes and taps with no problems (i have very big hands) if i can do it ...
 
Thank you. But really, it looks very un-Apple. It's been this way for years, and I find it incredibly annoying.

If Apple's decided to step up their copying or "borrowing" or whatever you want to call the thing they do to make existing features even better, they should copy Sparrow or something. Sparrow is art. And if you play around with Sparrow's interface, it's all so obvious. So natural.

The iPad uses some elements from Mail.app's sidebar. Except they make a lot of sense in iPad's mail app. There's a clean separation of accounts, especially the choice to either operate straight from the inboxes, or to use each account natively with native features. Makes perfect sense.

Enough with the rant. Thank God there are so many other *good* things about Lion.

So why don't you use Sparrow instead of Apple Mail?
 
Can't wait to see how bad and long it takes to download OS X Lion to install on the computers. Considering how many people are going to upgrade its going to be an interesting ride.:rolleyes:
 
I'm getting two issues with Mail which are important:

1. In the options/Viewing, I check the option for "Display unread messages in bold font" and nothing happens. I tried restarting Mail and it still doesn't show my unread messages as bold.

2. I also remember in DP4, before the update, that there was Reminders there as well, but it seems to be removed and only available in iCal. Does anyone else see Reminders in Mail?
 
I think this is a new feature. The option to use the dashboard with the old overlay style, rather than as a space.

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Glad to see this - I mostly use dashboard to use the calculator widget, usually to work with numbers that are on the screen so I need to be able to see 'through' the dashboard.
 
Man. Am I the only one that hates the linen background Apple is using? I feel that is going to grow old quick...

Nope, you're not alone, and it's creeping in everywhere... Lion, iOS. It just seems so un-Apple to me, more like the kind of thing everyone Oooo!ed and Ahhh!ed about when Windows 95 came out. Apple seems to be adopting more and more virtual interface designs, the new Calendar.app is probably the most obvious example. It maybe looks more breakthrough on iOS devices where it hasn't been seen before, but on a Mac I just find it a bit gimmicky and inconsistent.
 
Different Sizes

Any idea why the download comes in different sizes for different machines? My MBA (Oct 2010) got the 656MB update while my Mac Pro (1,1) got the 994MB update?
 
Nope, you're not alone, and it's creeping in everywhere... Lion, iOS. It just seems so un-Apple to me, more like the kind of thing everyone Oooo!ed and Ahhh!ed about when Windows 95 came out. Apple seems to be adopting more and more virtual interface designs, the new Calendar.app is probably the most obvious example. It may be looks more breakthrough on iOS devices where it hasn't been seen before, but on a Mac I just find it a bit gimmicky and inconsistent.

That background texture and colour is very neutral and i like it very much. I even use it as my desktop background on Snow Leopard. Whoever made it is THE MAN.
 
Lots of people couldn't even install DP4... so I guess this update is not for them ((

I cant install Lion dp4 on my new MBP 2011 15.4" !!!
WTF Apple... its your newest and best laptop ever... no Lion support ?

Apple released a fix for the 2011 MBP install issue! The DP4 build 11A480e installs without a problem in any Mac.

Try install with this one! Then you can use it and update it! ;)
 
Really ? I used DP 1-3 as my primary OS but with a SL dual boot option just in case snce DP4 I have used it exclusively. Mail is a touch flakey but CS 5.5 offce 2011 are solid Xcode works well and the sync with iOS 5 is superb.

I agree with BlackMangoTree. I did the same thing as you, but found the opposite to be true. I couldn't work in Lion for more than an hour or two before I got frustrated with not being able to perform basic tasks without glitches and bugs, and would end up booting back into SL. DP4 seemed to straighten out the vast majority of that, and after running it for a couple of days on my secondary partition I plunged into the void and upgraded my primary partition. This update has seemed like a step backward so far, however. Basic things like swiping between pages in Safari are not working now, and they were before.
 
I agree with BlackMangoTree. I did the same thing as you, but found the opposite to be true. I couldn't work in Lion for more than an hour or two before I got frustrated with not being able to perform basic tasks without glitches and bugs, and would end up booting back into SL. DP4 seemed to straighten out the vast majority of that, and after running it for a couple of days on my secondary partition I plunged into the void and upgraded my primary partition. This update has seemed like a step backward so far, however. Basic things like swiping between pages in Safari are not working now, and they were before.

Yep, DP4 seemed to iron out all the major glitches for me too, to the extent that I got close to installing it on my primary partition. However, this update has made me glad I didn't.
 
It works here.

It did for me too at first but seems to stop working at random until I restart Safari. I never had a problem previously with DP4 so it definitely looks like a new bug has been introduced. It's a bit of a concern at this late stage that this sort of thing is still happening (I would expect things to be getting pretty stable, not less stable as we're only about 6 weeks away from release based on Apple's own timescales)
 
because apple makes you install from an drive that boots to 10.6.7 first.... Install 10.6.7 first then lion on the MBP.

Thats not true!

I made a clean install on my 13" 2011 MBP! If he has a bootable usb/dvd/partition with the install files, he can boot from there and make a clean install without a problem...as long it's 11A480e version! ;)
 
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