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.a said:okay, your're right - $3999.- wouldn't be an apple-price$4499.- as low-end quad and $5999.- as highend. pixar would buy some for sure - i would think over them twice ...
waiting for the wwdc (and i am sure, there will be no new workstation) and after that, i'll order a pmac dual 2.5 and a pbook 17".
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There would actually be very few situations where a low end quad for $4499 or a high end for $5999 would make sense. That's roughly the price of buying two separate computers.
Take the high end:
Two x dual 2.5/512/160 GB/ATI video/etc - $6000
vs.
One quad 2.5/1024/2x160 GB/single ATI video
If this were priced at $5499 rather than $5999, it would make great sense for both Apple and the few customers who need that kind of power.
jragosta said:
I did say in my original post (#772) that the "agency approval" was most likely due to electrical or some sort of safety certification.
ANyway... please do us a favour and keep the crocodile hunter over there.
jragosta said:
But then, you have it in one computer. Quad processors in a single system will have different performance characteristics than two dual processor systems. A quad system will have massively better response times and much lower I/O overhead than two clustered dual systems. If you want to try and get them the same, add some type of high-speed communications card to the two dual systems. See how much that costs. And the speed still won't really be the same. There's reasons to put more processors in one system instead of clustering more systems.
I would say that the "subject to agency approval" has something to do with the liquid cooling, probably some extra tests it has to pass if it has liquid running inside an electrical device, probably be sorted out before they ship, in lates july or whenever they eventually are released?, and lets hope its not like the ipod mini and it doesnt get released internationally for a few months later, hell we still havent got ipod minis here
Slightly OT
Also yeah with the croc hunter ....we disown him, he has nothing to do with australia he represents pretty much no real aspect of australia, just US stereotypes.....and hes an idiot
Also yeah with the croc hunter ....we disown him, he has nothing to do with australia he represents pretty much no real aspect of australia, just US stereotypes.....and hes an idiot
RAM
Just wondering if be any advantage in having ram from the apple store in a G5 over third party RAM, as the third party RAM can be got for a fair bit cheaper (over here at least)
Just wondering if be any advantage in having ram from the apple store in a G5 over third party RAM, as the third party RAM can be got for a fair bit cheaper (over here at least)
aussiemac86 said:
Yep - it's been said a million times over on this site - DON'T buy RAM from Apple - it's a rip-off. Buy with a solid thrid party (i.e. Crucial) and you'll be far better off.
**To all aussies planning on buying a mac**
Before you buy direct from apple check out
http://www.macshack.com.au
They are advertising the new 2.5's for $5089 ( As opposed to $5299 from the apple store)
There may be some extra charges somewhere but i couldnt find any, have a look
They also offer pretty good deals on the rev A's
Before you buy direct from apple check out
http://www.macshack.com.au
They are advertising the new 2.5's for $5089 ( As opposed to $5299 from the apple store)
There may be some extra charges somewhere but i couldnt find any, have a look
They also offer pretty good deals on the rev A's
Spades said:
Of course - which is why I suggested releasing a quad.
I think, though, that you'll find that clustering works quite well for the majority of things that most people are using it for. For things like video editing, graphics work, and so on, gigabit ethernet will provide plenty of bandwidth.
Given that most people can get by with a clustering solution - and that two dual computers are more expensive to make than a single quad with similar features, it's not likely that many people will pay more than twice the cost of a single G5 system - at least for the work that most Macs are used for.
The argument makes much more sense when you get into the xServe. There, it is entirely possible that a quad xServe is worth more than two dual xServes for many (most?) customers.
jragosta said:
Yes, but can I get a 128MB video card that won't intrude on the adjacent PCI slot? As far as I know, any and all of the Radeon 9800 variations block the adjacent PCI slot. The 9600 is only 64MB and the only way I see being able to get a 128MB 9600XT is as an option with a new machine.
Anyone else know anything different?
$349 ATI 9800 Pro Mac Edition Is 128 MB BUT only 4x AGP and 1920 x 1200 Max Res
The $349 ATI 9800 Pro Mac Edition (requires 300 watt Power hook up) Is 128 MB BUT only 4x AGP and 1920 x 1200 Max Res. This is half speed of new 128 MB 9600XT stock 8x AGP in the dual 2.5 and won't support the new higher resolution 30" display coming out soon. So I think buying the old G5's will keep you from being able to hook up a new 30" Apple Display with new higher resolution of 2560 x 1600.Studio Dweller said:
Multimedia said:
You sound pretty sure of the specs of the 30" display...
Do you know something I wish I knew?
The 30" resolution is part of this Think Secret new displays article
The 30" Resolution Is Part Of This Think Secret New Displays Article.hotwire132002 said:
90nm Processors Use Different Sensor Technology In Cooling System
Almost For Sure. Salesman told me they are. Then thinking about the cooling system they would almost have to be to conform to new cooling system required for all 90 nm processors. I don't mean the liquid cooling only on the 2.5's. I mean the temperature sensors that are different than those for 130 nm versions. He also said the new models are all even quieter than the previous series and the 2.5 is quietest of all because of the liquid cooling that allows the fans to spin even slower. But we haven't heard it from an engineer yet that I know of.mewzrh33 said:
Multimedia said:
Good point. Even if the performance of the 90nm 2.0 GHz G5 chips is the same, the wattage is said to be about two-thirds of the older 130nm chips. That would a big plus for reducing the room heating effect, which is quite noticeable in the summer.
We're talking about perhaps 60 watts less heat output from a pair of the new chips, vs. the old ones. Which might allow the fans to run slower or less often, also.
Several press articles have said that the just-announced dual 1.8 GHz and dual 2.0 GHz G5's are still 130 nm chips, contradicting Apple's white paper which says that all G5's now have 90nm chips. Someone claimed to have been told the same thing in a phone call to Apple.
I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks when the new machines start getting delivered. But it would be nice to have official clarification in the meantime.
It's done.
Just ordered a dual 2.5Ghz G5. The order is completed.
I was charged $150 in tax, even though the shipping address is Washington DC, is it the shipping or billing address that they decide whether or not to tax? Anybody know?
Anyways, I've been reading this site hardcore for the past three months. I was hoping for the 3 Ghz, but hey, I guess I'll take what I can get.
Just ordered a dual 2.5Ghz G5. The order is completed.
I was charged $150 in tax, even though the shipping address is Washington DC, is it the shipping or billing address that they decide whether or not to tax? Anybody know?
Anyways, I've been reading this site hardcore for the past three months. I was hoping for the 3 Ghz, but hey, I guess I'll take what I can get.
Studio Dweller said:
You can purchase nice video cards from 3rd party vendors and put them in yourself.
And no, it won't intrude on the PCI slot. I was just at ATI's site, the 9800 Mac SE with 256 megs of vRAM still only takes up the AGP slot and doesn't intrude on any neighboring slots.
Multimedia said:
I read the article earlier but I must have missed the resolution. Thanks!
Speaking of monitors, who thinks we'll see them by WWDC? I really don't want to have to use my G5 with my old Envision EN-5200e (15"). If they don't come out by WWDC, do you think I should get one of the current models? They told me that if I buy a monitor by the end of the month, they should be able to put it on my AppleCare plan.