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Apple Releases New Sandy Bridge Quad-Core iMacs with Thunderbolt

devilstrider said:
lol Man there is no way I'd spend that much money for that convenience. Hell it will be dust in that iMac in less that a month after you get it. Might as well save a lot of money and do it yourself.
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Gotta be honest I'd be a little concerned too. You're right that the price is high but has anyone done the upgrade themselves with no dust appearing inside the screen??

After spendin the bucks on the machine and separate SSD, it's just not worth it if the screen is compromised
 
devilstrider said:
You mean major dust. It had dust in it that the human eye could not see. Please don't tell me you have it in a clean room for 2.5 years. lol
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What i can't see i'm not worried about, but it looked pretty clean when i took it out, but yes that room is pretty clean.
 
devilstrider said:
lol Man there is no way I'd spend that much money for that convenience. Hell it will be dust in that iMac in less that a month after you get it. Might as well save a lot of money and do it yourself.
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Don't do it. Upgrading the iMac (well, the 2010 model anyway and I'm assuming it'll be the same with the 2011 one) goes beyond being a pain to being downright user-hostile. For a start you basically have to dismantle the whole system, including the display, and even when you've done that Apple don't include the relevant mounting bracket unless you pay for Apple to install the SSD when you order it. It also wipes out your warranty and there's a fair few ways to break the bloody thing.

If you really want an internal SSD buy from Apple. Otherwise wait and see what options Thunderbolt drives offer in a few months, that's probably going to be the easiest way to add seriously quick storage.
 
Apple not aware of the App Store?

Are they kidding for the price of pre-installed software? Not heard of the App Store. I mean - $199 for Aperture?:D
 
Whats the memory spec to upgrade.....is it still the same as the '10 refresh?

DDR3 PC3-10600, DDR3 1333Mhz(non-ECC)
 
andui said:
This is insane. Apple still charges $200 for another 4GB ram:eek:. Is this ram made out of gold or diamonds? 4 GB ram costs $40 for pc.

I already have a better system since January.

-Sandy Bridge i7 2600k @4.2 GHZ
-12 GB RAM 1600MHZ (faster ram than the new iMacs, cost me only $120 for 12GB)
-Ati 5850 ( faster than those mobile gpus )
-Can install OS X 10.6.7 on it, but I don't need it.

It all cost me $500(when I upgraded);)
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"Sandy Bridge i7 2600k @4.2 GHZ" You mean overclocked to 4.2GHz just like the iMac??

Also has anyone heard of these guys overclocking to 4.33GHz
 
toddybody said:
+1

LOL, those kinda' folks are ignorant^N
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As someone who has personally assembled several home-made machines using good cases and parts, you are glossing over some of the pitfalls with the home-built approach:

1) Components (esp. cases) almost always look better online than they are in reality.
2) Even sturdy parts have quality issues like vibrations, poor tolerances (things don't fit exactly right), cable routing issues, sound...
3) The fun of getting everything installed (drivers, etc.) to work properly out of the box can be a matter of minutes, hours, or days depending on which components you happen to pick
4) Cut hands due to very sharp internal edges (minor annoyance)
5) Supporting failed parts... RMA'ing, replacing and following up with manufacturers individually to get a working machine

But hey, once you get through all of that, the dollar cost is usually significantly lower and there is a sense of accomplishment. But, let's not pretend it's for everyone.
 
Three Displays?

J-Rock said:
The previous generation specifically stated in the tech specs that it could be used as a monitor for a mini-displayport source. I'm hoping to use this as an XBOX 360 display (paired with the $150 HDMI to mini-DP converter). Does anyone know if this option will be supported by the new 2GB nVidia card?
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I can't seem to find that either - has this option disappeared with the arrival of Thunderbolt? Is it just me or are the new 'Tech Specs' layouts a lot less tech speccy than they used to be and a lot more typical Apple 'user friendly'?

Also there are two contradictory sections in the iMac pages over on apple.com first it says that with two Thunderbolt ports on the 27" that you could add another display on the second port, meaning 1 internal and 2 external. But in the tech specs it says that you can add a display up to 2560 x 1600, without mentioning the option for up to 2 additional displays - does anyone know which is correct?

Exact copy under performance/thunderbolt is:

The 27-inch iMac includes a second Thunderbolt port for even more expansion possibilities. Connect up to six more devices or a display or two.

Exact copy under tech specs is:

Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to a 30-inch display (2560 by 1600 pixels) on an external display

Does that last one imply PER display?

Any thoughts would be helpful as I (as I am sure many others have) have longed for an iMac to run more than one additional display.
 
J-Rock said:
I've been watching every day for this update, and will be ordering a configure-to-order 27" this evening. I'm looking at upgrading everything but the ram, and ordering that separately. The previous generation specifically stated in the tech specs that it could be used as a monitor for a mini-displayport source. I'm hoping to use this as an XBOX 360 display (paired with the $150 HDMI to mini-DP converter). Does anyone know if this option will be supported by the new 2GB nVidia card?
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This, to me, is the most glaring omission of today's refresh - the elimination of Target Display Mode in the 27" models.

TUAW is reporting that Target Display Mode is gone. At least, Apple's not mentioning it anymore. No-one's got their hands on one of these yet to try it, but they're speculating it may have something to do with Intel's TB Controller chip and/or the fact that there's two thunderbolt ports now, so whatever juju/mojo Apple used to enable Target Display Mode in the 09/10 models doesn't work anymore. :(

EDIT: Just saw on the MR front page that Apple has confirmed to them that the TB Ports still allow Target Display??

"While we were unable to find explicit mention of support for Target Display Mode on the new iMac product pages, an Apple sales representative has confirmed to us that the new 27-inch models do continue to support the feature through the new Thunderbolt ports."

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/03/target-display-mode-missing-in-action-on-new-imacs/

nxent said:
awaiting the benchmarks to see how these stack up against the mac pro's...
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Likewise!
 
geordieny said:
"Sandy Bridge i7 2600k @4.2 GHZ" You mean overclocked to 4.2GHz just like the iMac??

Also has anyone heard of these guys overclocking to 4.33GHz
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4.2 GHz is nothing.

I do believe they are talking about the Turbo bin overclocking available on non-K Series processors. That is multipliers available beyond the standard Turbo Boost.
 
All I want to know is how the new GPU's stack up against desktop versions....

All I want is the equivalent to the 6870 1gb desktop version. All the power I'll need for a long, long time.
 
I'd like to know if the new internal hdd connections are the old sata 2 and not the new sata 3. I'd like a 2011 iMac to be able to use the new speed of the sata 3 ssd drives.
 
Will the 21.5" models be able to be used as an external monitor now that it has Thunderbolt? Thanks :)
 
pro:
-Thunderbolt
-every model with Quad Core
-does the mid 2010 model supports HDD + SSD option? If this is new: thumb up

cons:
-the smalles iMac still has 500 GB HDD. Min. 1 TB should be standard in 2011.
-only the biggest one still supports upgrade to HD 6970M with 2 GB VRAM. Where are 1 GB VRAM option for 21,5 inch or as standard?
-still 256 GB SSD option, which is very expensive. Where are 64/80/128 SSD option?

So very disappointing in general.
 
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Marx55 said:
No matte displays. No purchase. Sign the petition for Apple matte displays at:

MacMatte (matte petition)
http://macmatte.wordpress.com
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Nope :). Glossy screens don't annoy me at all. When the sun blazes into the study just before setting I close the blinds. A small price to pay to have photos and games looking beautiful (on my Macbook Pro at least, can't wait to get my 27" glossy iMac).
 
Obi-Wan Kubrick said:
Same here! I now have 3 lines of dead pixels going down my screen.
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+1

iMac 27'' i7 with Lion in the summer or wait for the probably redesigned Macbook Pro with Ivy Bridge in 2012 ??? My 2.16ghz Core Duo Macbook Pro has really started to show its age :(

Decisions, decisions :rolleyes:
 
fyrefly;12505160 TUAW is reporting that Target Display Mode is gone. At least said:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/03/target-display-mode-missing-in-action-on-new-imacs/[/url]
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This seems to be all over Apple's 'Tech Specs' like they say scaling with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.8GHz but they don't ever mention for which actual model (from memory older ones used to scale relative to their 'standard clock speed - so slower cpus will scale to a slower maximum clock speed) so apparently they ALL scale to 3.8GHz? So sick of this 'it is better for the consumer NOT to know' - how the hell do I make an informed choice if I don't know what actually sets models apart? It's a this one's bigger so it must be better approach :( (which is likely true but I would like to know WHAT makes it better)
 
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