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Apple Releases OS X 10.11.5 El Capitan With Bug Fixes and Performance Improvements

normang said:
Anyone else actually experiencing this issue? If not, then its probably a hardware issue, not a software issue, if you think its a software issue, did you do a clean install and see if does the same thing? If you assumed its OS X without any real trouble-shooting and no else has a similar issue, perhaps its time to dig a little deeper..
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I do. I use the old BT keyboard and mouse. It seems the issues have become less frequent since I disconnected my Bose Soundlink mini.
I have not yet installed 10.11.5 - hope to see some testimony here that the freezing issues have been fixed.
 
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newyorkguy said:
windows logo comes up at startup. wtf?
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Ha, ha, that was a good one...oh wait..it happen to me too?!... ;)

We laugh, but El Cap has been trending lately like the "Old Microsoft" concerning "fixing" things that break with every update...

Windows 10 "seems" kind of stable lately..."Just Works"...wait...I said "What?????"
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Guy Clark said:
But as with all OS X releases it will be a risky upgrade until the third point update.
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On a serious note (my posts lately are venting sarcasm about the reality of Apple's innovation lately), for the first time ever I have second thoughts about upgrading to the next OS X or OSMac (whatever). OS X El Cap is STILL not stable and the next is coming out in a few weeks to start this circus of instability all over again....?????????!!!!!??

And when I look across the yard at instability Microsoft with their now stable OS...I say wtf? What has happen to Apple lately?
 
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star-affinity said:
A clean install a few days ago? I even upgraded the installation I have from a previous major OS X version and I don't see any apps crashing after the 10.11.5 update. Maybe you have bad RAM or something? Should't behave like that.
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Can't be the hardware. It's seems at least worse than the latest betas of 10.11.5 on both of my Macs (MBP 17" Late 2011 and iMac 27" Late 2015). Only the iMac got a clean install last week I think.
 
Wow... Installed yesterday night. Today I'm having several problems - Mail has already "quitted unexpectedly" several times, also I get "startup disk almost full" warning (about 500MB free - but yesterday I had about 12GB free on my 512GB SSD). I assumed the new update took all this space and simply offloaded some stuff to external drive, freeing up about 15GB. And after I few hours I get the warning again - the drive is almost full again. WHAT THE HELL is going on!
Just offloaded more stuff (5GB). Will watch closely what happens now. I'll update my post if anything changes.
 
HOW TO UPDATE THE RECOVERY PARTITION

You can update the recovery partition too to a 10.11.5 version using the following steps (the update via mac app store or delta or combo don't do this):

1. Download the Lion Recovery Update from https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1464?locale=en_US . (And before you ask, YES. I mean LION recovery update!) Make sure it is in your downloads folder. Download the full installer for 10.11.5 from the mac app store. Right click on the Install OS X El Capitan.app file and click Show Package Contents. Go to Contents/SharedSupport/. Copy the InstallESD.dmg file into your Downloads folder.

2. Download and decompress the file recovery.sh.zip from http://4unitmaths.com/recovery.sh.zip and move recovery.sh into your Downloads folder if it's not there already.

3. Open Terminal and type the following commands:

chmod +x ~/Downloads/recovery.sh
sudo ~/Downloads/recovery.sh

4. Wait a few minutes for it to finish and return back to a prompt. Reboot with holding down the option key to test your recovery partition.
 
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Sandstorm said:
Wow... Installed yesterday night. Today I'm having several problems - Mail has already "quitted unexpectedly" several times, also I get "startup disk almost full" warning (about 500MB free - but yesterday I had about 12GB free on my 512GB SSD). I assumed the new update took all this space and simply offloaded some stuff to external drive, freeing up about 15GB. And after I few hours I get the warning again - the drive is almost full again. WHAT THE HELL is going on!
Just offloaded more stuff (5GB). Will watch closely what happens now. I'll update my post if anything changes.
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Improve your disk management. You should always try to keep at least 10-15% free.
 
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east85 said:
I would search terminal in spotlight

open it up

type

sudo killall Finder

and hit enter. then try again. this should restart finder, afterwards reattempt installation and see if the problem remains.
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Thanks for the advice. No joy, though. Finder isn't running (even though the dock is, which is how I was able to get to Terminal). sudo reboot works, and lets me back in to the OS, but it's still at 10.11.4. But whenever I click "restart" in the App Store to start the update to 10.11.5, it goes off into deep space. I can still run apps but not the finder.

This is via the app store and via the 10.11.5.dmg updater. Weird, huh? Whatever script the update runs seems to kill the finder too soon or something.
 
23 attempts later I have given up trying to install this update. I get an "OS X El Capitan Update" could not be verified every time, whether I:

  • Update via the App Store
  • Download the update from the support site
  • Download the combi update from the support site
  • Disable, re-enable, disable, re-enable automatic date&time
  • Reboot dozens of times
  • Disabled all applications / add-ons
  • Disconnected all peripherals
  • Click update whilst holding my nose and drinking a glass water.
  • etc..

What a truly magical user experience.
 
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Update: I was finally able to get the update to install. I downloaded the standalone updater, rebooted in Safe Mode, then ran the updater .pkg. It took about 20 minutes total (7 minutes, then 11 more after a reboot). My guess is that something else I'm running prevented a clean shutdown to install the update.
 
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dynamojoe said:
Update: I was finally able to get the update to install. I downloaded the standalone updater, rebooted in Safe Mode, then ran the updater .pkg. It took about 20 minutes total (7 minutes, then 11 more after a reboot). My guess is that something else I'm running prevented a clean shutdown to install the update.
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Appreciate your posting that up.

24 failed attempts now. :mad:
 
WBRacing said:
Appreciate your posting that up.

24 failed attempts now. :mad:
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[doublepost=1463491005][/doublepost]I updated this morning and several of my applications aren't recognized anymore. Nothing seems to work as before. I'll try to reinstall the update after work tonight and check the forum for any news.
 
I have a MBP early 2008 4g 250GB 15". It ran superb on Snow Leopard. When Mavericks came to town, I updated to it and it destroyed my Mother Board (which Apple replaced for ~$300.) I stayed away from subsequent OSX's until El Capitan was released. I made sure that I did "clean" install, and it works superb!

I am now looking to perhaps replace my Mac with a new MacBook 12", but cannot seem to part with my trustworthy MBP.
 
alphaod said:
Did 10.11.3 cause your display to shut off and then never wake back up?
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the previous version was shutting down the external display with no fix with pulling out the thunderbolt and plugging it back in, the first occurrence in about 20-30 minutes after starting to work with it. It happened before that update too but only every couple of days. This update does not fix this issue - happened again after 30 minutes. I think I might give apple a call about it.
weirdly it didn't happen with an iMac in target display mode.
 
nemguy said:
Still in Yosemite 10.10.5...let see how this 10.11.5 behave so, I can decide if I move to El Capitan...
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I'm going to do the same with 10.12 and wait until ~ this time next year for the x.x.5 patch release before taking the plunge. I'm getting old.
 
Installed with my external display connect ..
name99 said:
This most likely represents a problem with the hard drive. Get an app like DriveDx that can tell you the SMART status in detail. Unfortunately Apple's SMART support is basically useless in terms of either the data it gives you or the analysis it provides. DriveDx costs around $30 or so but is worth it, IMHO.

If it IS the hard drive, the easiest solution is to buy an external SSD (drive should be around $300 for a 1TB drive, I recommend Samsung 850 EVO, a good USB3 enclosure [that supports UASP for extra speed] should cost you around $20, I recommend Inateck) and run your system off an external SSD.

Hard drives are still the suckiest, most likely to die, least likely to tell you, part of the system :-(
[doublepost=1463456449][/doublepost]I can't speak as to any other changes yet, but it is immediately obvious on older machines (this is a 2007 class machine) that Remote Desktop performance has been DRAMATICALLY improved. Running Remote Desktop to this machine used to use up about 100% of a CPU on that machine (around 50% for the remote desktop work, which I assume was mainly data compression, and around 50% is excess Window Server work). Now it's negligible, less than 20%.

You can even do insane things like watch a movie playing on the remote machine, and the playback is smooth and non-tearing. Damn! It's not EXACTLY the crisp performance of a Sandy Bridge or later machine (which uses h.264 encoding hardware built into the GPU of those chips) but it's as close as you can reasonably expect on a machine that is 9 years old!
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your doing a lot of talking most of the people complaint have expensive computers , we have quad core i5s and better ...(cheap) Dual core i5 prolly work fine ...(cheap) I3s prolly work fine... They introduced new (cheap)dual core ever since then there has been a problem... No one need a new hard drive or external ssd ... The update has fixed a lot and the stability of the os is better on all different processors .. That was the problem .. Many different processors running same osx .. I can say this update is more responsive ... I haven't had the problem with freezing that used to occur very random like 3 times a week .
 
No more really long beach balls , not freezing so far , iTunes is smoother.. Update is looking solid so far .. For Past few months going on my late 2012 iMac has been annoying .. I can see I'll be on my iMac more
 
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jackth29 said:
What used to happen?
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My Mac will not shut down or restart because Finder will not close. Force Quit will not work either. Also random apps with not quit/exit the dock. I have to hold down the power button in order to restart/shutdown my computer. Also Safari has been randomly freezing with beach ball.
 
El Capitan was supposed to be a bug fixed/performance improvements release but till now it hasn't fixed many of the long-standing bugs introduced in Yosemite. I still can't securely empty trash because some files are in use for no reasons, All My Files folder doesn't update the listing, Wifi disconnect are frequent and Finder is really buggy etc. I wonder if Apple will make the El Capitan bug free before releasing a new nuisance this year? These days one is forced to upgrade to a new OS X hoping that it has less bugs than predecessors but nothing substantial actually happens. Only Craig Federighi is busy boasting about the adoption numbers...
 
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Even the first beta in June last year was better than what I have now. It was just a faster and better Yosemite.

In the meantime I gave up Disk Utility, Mail, iTunes, App Store, Finder, Photos, Safari, iMassage, iCloud and don't need a single one of the other stock apps, because there are better alternatives or I never really used them before.

It's time for Linux very soon.
 
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Erdbeertorte said:
Even the first beta in June last year was better than what I have now. It was just a faster and better Yosemite.

In the meantime I gave up Disk Utility, Mail, iTunes, App Store, Finder, Photos, Safari, iMassage, iCloud and don't need a single one of the other stock apps, because there are better alternatives or I never really used them before.

It's time for Linux very soon.
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