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They updated the icon for the new mac pro. It used to show the old mac pro tower.
 

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769mb for a late 2013 rMBP

460mb (or there a bouts) for a 2012 MBA

Wonder why the huge difference in size?

why there was 769MB update for my Macbook Air 2013(Haswell)?
 

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If you care to read the posts, I explained before that there are 2 deltas (a full delta and smaller delta patch) and a combo.

The mac app store will determine which one you need.

It seems you got the full delta.
 
10.9.2 is giving me problems with external USB drives not spinning down when my iMac sleeps, and it won't awaken unless I hit the power button instead of the keyboard.
 
The SSL bug allows man in the middle to see what is supposed to be encrypted traffic in clear txt. It isn't a back door into your OS.

I didn't say the site was an exploit through the SSL bug. Just that if you were to want to setup a malicious site, one that every mac user was going to in a matter of days would be a good place to start.

Java or flash exploit for example.

Anyway, point is, do we know where it came from?
 
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If you care to read the posts, I explained before that there are 2 deltas (a full delta and smaller delta patch) and a combo.

The mac app store will determine which one you need.

It seems you got the full delta.

Thanks for the info :)
 
SMB is even worse. WTF Apple.

Not here. Haven't got the time to test it thoroughly yet but so far SMB seems to be WAY better than 10.9.1 on my late 2012 Mac Mini. As in I can actually save files over SMB now :eek: from my Windows 7 virtual machines in VMWare Fusion on another Mac (iMac mid-2011, now also with 10.9.2) and don't have to go by my QNAP NAS as an intermediary.
 
Huh? You aren't making any sense.

a) There is no "Settings|Settings" in the menu at all in Console.app. There only is Preferences, and nowhere does it say anything about window arrangements/settings.

The size of the Terminal.app window depends on the number of rows and columns set in Preferences > Settings > Window.

b) You may have misunderstood my post. The point I was trying to raise is that when I go to Console.app, the window opens in the default 'small' size, and when I resize the window to make it bigger, then quit the app with the whole window resized to a bigger size, then... when I open the app again, the window has defaulted back to its original size. It does not remember or retain the window size. The expected behavior should be that when you resize a window, then quit the app, upon relaunch, the app should remember the new window size. This behavior applies to Safari, iMessage, Notes, TextEdit, and pretty much all the built-in apps that are resizable.

To test this behavior on 10.9.2, open Console, widen the window (or make it taller, doesn't matter), quit, then reopen Console. You should see that the window does not retain your resized parameters.

Make sense?

No, I think you misunderstood. This is the expected behavior for Terminal.app and most terminal emulators.

EDIT: UpdateAddict already corrected me on this one, you were referreing to Console.app, and for some reason I read that as Terminal.app. Sorry for the confusion...
 
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God I hope it fixes the issue with Microsoft Silverlight on Netflix where it stops streaming in HD (I doubt it) and also Apple TV needs a update where it fixes Netflix from snapping back to SD.

That is not an issue with silver light or Apple TV, it's your net connection and Netflix automatically compressing your stream to keep it playing, will drop back quality in order to reduce buffering.
 
This is hilarious because of how true it is! Just one of the reasons I disliked windows. CONSTANT annoying updates prompting me to restart my machine!

This is not true. Windows updates are the second Tuesday of the month. There are also very rare occasions when Microsoft issue an emergency fix.

these updates run in the background unless you run them manually.
 
No, I think you misunderstood. This is the expected behavior for Terminal.app and most terminal emulators.

No. When KoolAid-Drink says Console.app, he/she literally means Console.app, the log/event/message viewer that comes with OS X. It's 100% not a terminal emulator.

I can corroborate that the bug exists in the 10.9 Console. In both 10.6 and 10.8, Console remembers what the window size was when you last quit out of it, exactly as a standard app would. Not so in 10.9. You can even see the error message it prints to itself every time you launch it.

The other user in the conversation already owned up to misinterpreting Console as Terminal.

Sorry, when you said Console I thought you meant the Terminal. You were talking about the app showing system messages, right ?
 
It's a bug and is annoying as hell. Kill it already, Apple!! :mad:

It is not a bug, it is a feature and you can switch it off in the preferences:
preferences -> Privacy -> Smart Search Field - > Do not preload Top Hit in the background
 
What build number?

Yes milo. I know I answered your question already much earlier in this thread. But I did so very quickly. How so?

How to find a build number for an OS X update (including betas) BEFORE you download it.

If you use a direct link such as the ones I posted at https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18814779/ there is a trick you can use to check the build number even before you download and install it.

Change the extension from .pkg to .pkm

Download the .pkm file and open it with textedit.

For example for the delta for 10.9.2 that was released today, near the top of the .pkm file (a very small file, like 295KB) is

identifier="com.apple.pkg.update.os.10.9.2.13C64.delta"

That tells us that today's release is build 13C64.

(Beta direct links can be found at apple's developer forums and this trick applies to them too. Apple are very consistent with this).
 
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I always find "FaceTime Audio" naming is a bit ridiculous. The point of FaceTime was a video call and communicate face to face and no longer voice only, hence the name.

But now it back again to basic with Audio only and contradict the root idea, it's like inventing an electric car only to add diesel option later in the process. Why?

I know not every time people would find video call feasible, at times it may seems inappropriate or awkward. I'm okay with that, but maybe Apple should just call it VoiceTime. I know it's only naming but hey, isn't that all Apple about? :D

I agree with your sentiment I also find "HD Audio" naming ridiculous. Everything about HD says video.
 
No. When KoolAid-Drink says Console.app, he/she literally means Console.app, the log/event/message viewer that comes with OS X. It's 100% not a terminal emulator.

I can corroborate that the bug exists in the 10.9 Console. In both 10.6 and 10.8, Console remembers what the window size was when you last quit out of it, exactly as a standard app would. Not so in 10.9. You can even see the error message it prints to itself every time you launch it.

The other user in the conversation already owned up to misinterpreting Console as Terminal.

Ugh, sorry, I don't know what I was thinking...

Thanks :)
 
I agree with your sentiment I also find "HD Audio" naming ridiculous. Everything about HD says video.
Really? "High Definition" somehow can't apply to audio? Seems it would make as much sense applying to it as to video. Just because we've been using the term HD for video a lot doesn't mean that it somehow makes no sense if applied to something else.
 
The SSL bug allows man in the middle to see what is supposed to be encrypted traffic in clear txt. It isn't a back door into your OS.
Not just that, it allows a fake site to appear to be completely authentic.

With DNS poisoning, I could tell a DNS to provide the wrong IP address when typing in bank.com

You'll load a website that looks exactly like bank.com - but it isn't actually from them, meaning you send all your bank info to me.

With working SSL, you'd either not have a certificate, or it'd give a red alert. With Mavericks however, it would give the "All Clear" bar.

I can easily make everything actually work just fine, I'll set up the server to make all the communications with the real server so you can carry out your transactions and such as normal. But I'll be watching the entire time, and I can make modifications as I please. Depending on the bank, I may even be able to change recipients of a transfer - but hide every part which would give it away.

For other services, you'd provide me all the information I needed to keep a permanent login. You'd unknowingly give me the password, and the two-step verification key.
 
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Not just that, it allows a fake site to appear to be completely authentic.

With DNS poisoning, I could trick a DNS to provide the wrong IP address when typing in bank.com

You'll load a website that looks exactly like bank.com - but it isn't actually from them, meaning you send all your bank info to me.

With working SSL, you'd either not have a certificate, or it'd give a red alert. With Mavericks however, it would give the "All Clear" bar.

I can easily make everything actually work just fine, you can carry out your transactions and such as normal. But I'll be watching the entire time, and I can make modifications as I please. Depending on the bank, I may even be able to change recipients of a transfer - but hide every part which would give it away.
Well, not with Mavericks anymore.
 
Well, not with Mavericks anymore.
Not anymore, no. But the nature of any SSL failure will allow that to happen. If it happens in Windows, thats what'll happen. If it happens to a Linux Distro - thats what'll happen.

Basically, it allows impersonation and faking to appear authentic, regardless of how its introduced. It is also a potential source of malware - mostly these days - since we can trick automatic updaters into supplying a false patch.
 
No, Mail is _not_ at the level of 10.8 and previous versions. There's still a serious outstanding issue of subscribed IMAP folders that not adressed. This is a feature that's been working for all previous versions of OSX, and it causes every Mavericks user at our company to download and index >3 million e-mail residing in our Public Folder section. These folders were previously only accessible by active selection, now everything is access by all, all the time. The amount of mail is is causing Spotlight to stop working properly which in turn causing Smart folders and search to stop working, message count almost always broken (still in 10.9.2) and Mail has to be restarted several times a day to even get new mail, and when it get's new mail, there's hundreds or even thousands to fetch since it also fetches all new mail in the Public Folders. We can't deploy Mavericks at our company!
This issue is acknowledged by Apple in Radar, but they haven't done anything about it. I'm starting to think that they never will...
 
I noticed after the 10.9.2 upgrade that the power button will no longer will put the 15" Macbook Pro with Retina (late 2013 model) to sleep anymore. This was working fine on 10.9 and 10.9.1.
Submitted a feedback report to Apple.

That's intentional. You just have to hold it a bit longer in 10.9.2 (like half a second). They probably did this so people wouldn't put their computers to sleep when accidentally pressing the power button instead of the back space key while typing.

Also if you hold it more than a second I think you will get the ”Restart, Sleep, Cancel, Shutdown” dialog (I haven't tried yet, this is just what I have been told). Holding the power button for about five seconds or longer forces is to power off (just like pre 10.9.2).
 
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Installed the update with no issues on my 2013 MBA. I even installed this update with only 19% battery left. Done through the Mac App Store app. :D

- No Spotify issue.
- No FaceTime issue. (I actually needed to block someone, love that feature!)
- No frozen installing screen.
- No WiFi issues.

Those having that issue should really consider backing up and doing a fresh install of Mavericks and then updating.

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That's intentional. You just have to hold it a bit longer in 10.9.2 (like half a second). They probably did this so people wouldn't put their computers to sleep when accidentally pressing the power button instead of the back space key while typing.

Also if you hold it more than a second I think you will get the ”Restart, Sleep, Cancel, Shutdown” dialog (I haven't tried yet, this is just what I have been told). Holding the power button for about five seconds or longer forces is to power off (just like pre 10.9.2).

I can verify the power button dialog. I think it's a sweet idea even though I have only, accidentally, put my machine to sleep a handful of times.
 
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