What about after clean installs? I did three clean installs of Mountain Lion and after every single one I had slow shutdowns. All three installs were on a mid 2012 retina MBP 15. I made sure all updates were installed and did multiple shutdowns without installing anything or setting up iCloud and I still had slow shutdowns.
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Apple Releases OS X Mavericks Developer Preview 3
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What about after clean installs? I did three clean installs of Mountain Lion and after every single one I had slow shutdowns. All three installs were on a mid 2012 retina MBP 15. I made sure all updates were installed and did multiple shutdowns without installing anything or setting up iCloud and I still had slow shutdowns.
Because it's not caused by 3rd party applications or user tweaks. Apple caused it. Now gnasher has to apology every time it's mentioned.
All kinds of ridiculous excuses.
I had that problem in ML and no amount of reindexing helped - here was my fix:
Boot to recovery partition
From Utilities menu, choose Terminal, type resetpassword
Select "reset home folder permissions and ACLs"
Zero Delay. Its a joy to use. I have been using Mavericks since DP1. The scrolling speed of Safari and finder is astonishingly fast. General UI is "Super Snappy"
The memory management is way better. There are some bugs (its a beta) but way better
All Hail
You guys made my day! Thanks a lot for your feedback, extremely good news!
As for the last part about the intergreted card using 1gb instead of 500MB i am confused. What exactly do you mean?
If that was the case, then using the terminal trick to lower the close-out timer for APPLE SERVICES wouldn't be speeding up shutdown as much. It isn't clueless ****s, unless you're saying Apple is clueless.
Guess I'm inefficient then. It's a habit I haven't broken myself of from using Windows where there isn't an option to restore windows when you turn it back on.
I did notice that...on my laptop running Mountain Lion
lol wow, how the heck did I miss that?
Same thing. There's a process (or processes) somewhere that wait for an event to occur. Those processes could definitely be OS-level, and since everyone for whom this is a concern seems to indicate it showed up in one of the ML OS updates, I'd suspect that to be the case.
If you start the system in verbose mode, you might be able to figure out which processes are taking longer when you shut down.
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It may or may not be Apple, but the gist of gnasher's argument is the same - there's a process or processes delaying shutdowns. No need to apologize, I would think.
While this may be at the top of yours and others' priority lists of items to fix, it apparently isn't at the top of Apple's, so you may have some time to wait before you see it resolved, if ever.
As a user i don't really care. Leaving such bug is inexcusable and others coming up with all kinds of 'explanations' why is just beyond ridiculous sometimes.
You guys made my day! Thanks a lot for your feedback, extremely good news!
As for the last part about the intergreted card using 1gb instead of 500MB i am confused. What exactly do you mean?
The integrated card uses the built in RAM as memory unlike the dedicated card which comes with it's own RAM. For, example my machine has 8GB of RAM and currently the integrated card uses 500MB of that RAM leaving 7.5GB for the OS and applications. In Mavericks the integrated card uses 1GB of that 8GB leaving 7GB for the OS and applications. When the discrete card is being used all 8GB of built in RAM is available for the OS and applications to use because the dedicated card has its own 1GB of RAM to use.
Thanks for the clarification, indeed that sounds troubling, but I am sure that it is for the best. My only concern is that I have 8gb of Ram and with a fresh restart in ML without any open programs I see that ML leaves me 6GB of Ram.
I guess from what you say I can expect Mavericks to leave me with 5.5gb of ram. (if I consider ML and Mavericks to require the same amount of ram for the OS)
Thanks again.
also another factor -- external devices plugged in. i know sometimes it can take a while for my computer to boot or shut down with my external hard drives plugged in. some of those things have their own shut down sequence which usually has to be done before your whole computer can shut down.
Yes, in fact nine builds of the OS, some named as DP and some named as updates.
Still needs work but loving it for the most part, the UI is the snappiest since 10.6. And I don't know how I got by without tabbed finder.
Of course there will be. This is a major OS update, they don't send those out with just a couple betas. And it's not going to be released until fall. But the way the releases are named or numbered has absolutely nothing to do with how many are released.
Air Battery Life
Are you guys seeing improved battery life on the older Air (2012)? I was hoping for more from Mavericks then I am getting, not much improvement at all really
Are you guys seeing improved battery life on the older Air (2012)? I was hoping for more from Mavericks then I am getting, not much improvement at all really
Can't use dishanywhere.com to watch my dvr since using Mavericks DP. DP 1, 2, and 3, same thing. Get a message " Tried in Chrome and Safari, get
We're sorry, but your current web browser, operating system, or the combination of both is not currently supported by the SlingPlayer plug-in. Please click here for more information."
Anyone else who is a Dish customer, notice this?
We're sorry, but your current web browser, operating system, or the combination of both is not currently supported by the SlingPlayer plug-in. Please click here for more information."
Anyone else who is a Dish customer, notice this?
Anything changed about the system requirements? I have a Macbook Mid 2009 with ML and am REALLY hoping Apple doesn't change Mavericks and drop support for it.
The OS X Mavericks Developer Preview supports the following Macs:
iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later), (15-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later), (17-inch, Late 2007 or later)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
Mac Mini (Early 2009 or later)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
Xserve (Early 2009)
It's obviously they detect your using an unknown operating system which is OS X Mavericks. It's a DP it's not a public release so obviously it's not gonna recognize your plug-in
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure I had updated correctly as I didn't notice a single change.
Cluelessness abounds everywhere, and Apple isn't immune, if this is an example of such. It seems to be an issue for a number on this and other fora and if it makes it to the top of Apple's "fix-it" priority stack, it will get addressed. Obviously, filing a bug report (assuming you've done since you seem to be a developer), will go that bit further to making it happen. Speed to address it depends entirely on what's ahead of it in the queue.
That's fine, and this is obviously something that's a big deal to you. Personally, I'm not interested in providing (or trying to provide) excuses for anyone, just telling you why it's happening. Take it however you want. While it's great to come to this forum and vent, your problem is really getting it to be a priority with Apple.
As a user and customer, you don't care about the software development process. That makes sense. However, that doesn't make the process less complex nor does it make your priority Apple's current focus for their resources, unfortunately (if only!
).