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Apple Releases OS X Mavericks Developer Preview 3

omro said:
When in Finder, while viewing your files in list mode. Go into a folder like Documents, resize the name column so that you can see your file names in full. Then go to another folder, like Downloads and then back to Documents. The name column is back to the default size, not the resized size.
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DP2 did the same thing (unfortunately... was hoping for that to be fixed this time around, pretty annoying).

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larrylaffer said:
I did notice that...on my laptop running Mountain Lion :D
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They have made changed there, though. They used to have "Arrange by" and "Clean Up by", and now "Arrange by" is gone (which I never used anyway, personally) with just "Clean Up by" now. (IMO, the way "Arrange by" worked was dumb anyway.)

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tywebb13 said:
Nobody has been able to explain to me what the first number in a build means - especially when I ask them about 3. 13 may well be mavericks but what was 3? The first number in a build is the major version but major version 3 seems to be missing for mac os x. If such a build exists, what is it? Builds for major releases of Mac OS X (I have left out updates and developer previews to make the pattern clearer):

2E14 (Kodiak International version)

?

4K78 (Cheetah)
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Timing looks about right for when iOS was spun off and the "iPad" (at the time, 2001/2/3-ish, give or take going by Steve Job's biography, who knows what it was called) was just starting development ... maybe the very first version of that?
 
How is the UI lag on retina macbook pros with the new Mavericks OS?

I am looking for people who had UI lag with Mountail Lion and what it looks like now with Mavericks.

Also, is Mavericks more RAM hungry than Mountain Lion? How is the memory management in it? Better than Mountain Lion or is it more demanding?
 
Serban said:
Can anybody that has this build and has a mac with SSD or Fusion Drive try to see how long the shut down last? i want to report to apple.
Thank you
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Yup, Fusion drive here. Shutdown's quick, haven't noticed any out-of-the-ordinary speed or slowdown.
 
I've noticed a quite improved Safari. Pages that wouldn't load in DP2 now work properly and it also seems like Safari has become more efficient. I have like 1 hour more of battery (estimated) doing light web browsing. I can't confirm that, thought. It may be because of the actual usage I'm doing.
 
RobertMartens said:
It is you who is getting brighter. But aren't you just fishing... for a compliment?

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I can't keep up.

Ok, ok,

It is actually you who has gone back to the default size?
Hmm that doesn't really work.
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Is it just me or is it utterly stunning looking? ;)
 
Usually a shut down OS(windows or MACOS) with SSD take about 2 to a maximum 5 seconds. Is this the case now or Apple should know that?
 
demodave said:
OK, so does the new Maps app finally allow your friggin' laptop to figure out where it is? I thought that the original iPhone used some WiFi data pinging to locate your phone as a part of "assisted" GPS. I want my damn laptop to know where it is *automatically* so that, for example, it can set it's own damn clock without my help.

I love Apple, but for pity's sake, this should be a no-brainer by now. It's called a laptop, even if it *is* too hot to sit on your lap, but it used to be called a portable, meaning you could take it with you somewhere *other* than your desk/office/house. Come on, now! Figure it out!
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My MBP knew where it was in maps using DP2, not sure whether or not it still does on DP3.
 
jb510 said:
Mavericks isn't a possessive noun or a plural.
What would Mavericks, a surf spot be possessing?
There is only one Mavericks surf spot for which OS X 10.9 was named.

Now if your talking about OS X 10.9 AND the surf spot at the same time, you might say, "the Mavericks' are both awesome"
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I'm not aware of any circumstance where the use of an apostrophe to indicate a plural is correct. Feel free to correct me, with an appropriate citation from the Chicago Manual of Style or similar. Given you misspelt "you're" however, I'm not holding my breath...
 
Serban said:
Sorry to say but this may be the case for normal HDD..not for SSD or Fusion Drive.. until 10.8.3 my shut down was about 2-3 seconds.
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I have the base 15 rmbp. If I restart the system and shut it down say about an hour of use, the shut down process takes a few seconds. If I use my laptop for weeks without restarting and rely on sleep/hibernate, it takes longer to restart when I need to. Therefore I also subscribe to the understanding that this is a feature of the OS. You are correct that this didn't happen in lion. I'm running the latest version of ML.
 
omro said:
My MBP knew where it was in maps using DP2, not sure whether or not it still does on DP3.
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DP ... DP ... Ah! Developer Preview: I'm not a dev, so I don't have hands-on experience with the app. I'm certainly excited to see it in real life once it is released. Maps are by far one of the apps I use on my iPhone and I use them a fair bit on my laptop, too. I think Maps on an iPad look phenomenal. I would be thrilled to bring that into my car, but when driving across Texas, I don't think the signal would be very good. (To that point, I would love to be able to create a route, know the total length of the route, *and* the total distance remaining to destination. This doesn't work well in the current iOS apps, so far as I can tell.)
 
Poisednoise said:
I'm not aware of any circumstance where the use of an apostrophe to indicate a plural is correct. Feel free to correct me, with an appropriate citation from the Chicago Manual of Style or similar. Given you misspelt "you're" however, I'm not holding my breath...
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Clearly in a rumor site, english grammer is a bit off topic. Having said tha I agree with you. If Mavericks is the proper noun then the plural is Maverickses and the possesive of Maveicks is Mavericks' and the possessive of the plural is Maverickses'. Now let's get back to proper rumoring :D
 
Valkyre said:
How is the UI lag on retina macbook pros with the new Mavericks OS?

I am looking for people who had UI lag with Mountail Lion and what it looks like now with Mavericks.

Also, is Mavericks more RAM hungry than Mountain Lion? How is the memory management in it? Better than Mountain Lion or is it more demanding?
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Zero Delay. Its a joy to use. I have been using Mavericks since DP1. The scrolling speed of Safari and finder is astonishingly fast. General UI is "Super Snappy"

The memory management is way better. There are some bugs (its a beta) but way better

All Hail :apple:
 
jbellanca said:
Yup, Fusion drive here. Shutdown's quick, haven't noticed any out-of-the-ordinary speed or slowdown.
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Note: When you shut down the computer, it obviously won't just cut the power. It has to exit all applications, giving them time to do things that absolutely need to be done before the shut down.

Any application can interfere with this. Application A might have to make sure that a lot of changes get changed to the disk before it allows the shut down, Application B might be written by some clueless **** that makes the app twiddle thumbs for 15 seconds. Since the OS cannot know, shutdown will be slow if Application B is running on your computer, and nothing the Mac can do about it.
 
aabdelsa said:
I have a rMBP and as you can see in the attached pic, when I search for anything it only pulls up dictionary... like the pic shows, i tried searching for the PDF "First Aid..." and i get nothing but the dictionary hit. Any ideas?
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somethings you could try: check spotlight preferences, reindex hard drive -- spotlight preferences > privacy, add your hard drive. close system preferences.

reopen system preferences remove your hard drive from the exclusion list.
(this will force it to reindex spotlight.)
 
gnasher729 said:
Note: When you shut down the computer, it obviously won't just cut the power. It has to exit all applications, giving them time to do things that absolutely need to be done before the shut down.

Any application can interfere with this. Application A might have to make sure that a lot of changes get changed to the disk before it allows the shut down, Application B might be written by some clueless **** that makes the app twiddle thumbs for 15 seconds. Since the OS cannot know, shutdown will be slow if Application B is running on your computer, and nothing the Mac can do about it.
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And the reasoning behind slow shutdown when I shut down all applications beforehand?
 
Serban said:
Can anybody that has this build and has a mac with SSD or Fusion Drive try to see how long the shut down last? i want to report to apple.
Thank you
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2.9 GHz Intel Core i7 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 OS X 10.9 (13A510d) mid 2012 MacBook Pro with SSD

Shutdown took about 12.9 seconds
 
Valkyre said:
How is the UI lag on retina macbook pros with the new Mavericks OS?

I am looking for people who had UI lag with Mountail Lion and what it looks like now with Mavericks.

Also, is Mavericks more RAM hungry than Mountain Lion? How is the memory management in it? Better than Mountain Lion or is it more demanding?
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I installed Mavericks on an external hard drive through USB 2.0 and for the most part the UI lag is gone. I still experience UI lag when switching from desktop to full screen safari when safari is on the Top Pages layout. I think this is because those previews of the pages are always changing. I am excited at the fact of how smooth safari is compared to Mountain Lion and now I can use safari instead of webkit.

I haven't paid attention to the memory management, but I hope it is better because the integrated card now uses 1GB of memory compared to the the previous 500MB.
 
APPLE-FANATIC said:
Just curious, how many developer previews are released (on average) before GM? Apple is really cranking things out pretty quickly!

HAPPY MONDAY :D
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It's not like there is anything complicatedly groundbreaking here.
 
Michael Goff said:
And the reasoning behind slow shutdown when I shut down all applications beforehand?
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Same reason, since you won't have shut down all applications unless you are in the habit of killing all processes in the activity monitor. There's a process (or processes) somewhere, written by a clueless **** or otherwise, waiting for an event to occur before it shuts down.
 
gnasher729 said:
Note: When you shut down the computer, it obviously won't just cut the power. It has to exit all applications, giving them time to do things that absolutely need to be done before the shut down.

Any application can interfere with this. Application A might have to make sure that a lot of changes get changed to the disk before it allows the shut down, Application B might be written by some clueless **** that makes the app twiddle thumbs for 15 seconds. Since the OS cannot know, shutdown will be slow if Application B is running on your computer, and nothing the Mac can do about it.
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Everything was fine up until 10.8.2. They messed it up in 10.8.2 and now it's being dragged to the Mavericks as well.

Anyone who tells me that 30+ seconds long shut down is suddenly by design is a joker. I wasn't born yesterday.
 
r.harris1 said:
Same reason, since you won't have shut down all applications unless you are in the habit of killing all processes in the activity monitor. There's a process (or processes) somewhere, written by a clueless **** or otherwise, waiting for an event to occur before it shuts down.
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And people rarely shut down all applications before a shutdown, because it means they won't be restarted when you launch the Mac again. I have to shutdown my rMBP every night for security reasons (so a thief has to find the hard drive password to get at my password), and shutting down things would be very inefficient.
 
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