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Thanks. I was wondering if Artist View would adopt the artist pictures, making it consistent with iOS 7. Perhaps near release.

I really don't get why Artists (or Genres) need pictures. It unnecessarily bloats the interface out imo. Especially on iOS.
 
They changed it to a checkbox and changed the wording, it's no longer a "theme" and it specifically says it changes the dock and menu. Looks like they changed their minds, or a full theme version won't be ready for 10.0.



It's not in Mavericks.

yes it is:
 

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At long last we get RPN mode in calculator! This probably doesn't affect most of the people but RPN is so much better and easier to use and I am very happy to see that Apple has finally brought it in :)
 
Yes, I know that... I'm just saying that Apple would not release this to "non-devs" with this Public beta if bugs were to a very minimum.

Most people who signed up for the public beta are just avg. Joe's and want it early.

What's the point in having a public beta if there are no bugs. Might as well have people wait like the rest of us...
 
I signed up for the public beta for when it's released. Can anyone tell me how stable they normally are, and whether it would be OK to use on your primary laptop?

You do not want to use this update in a "normal" environment. It will drive you absolutely bonkers. WIFI issues have not been fixed in this build, nor has the attachments in email been brought back ( i.e if someone sends you a photo it will show a broken link and you need a 3rd party image viewer to view them externally ) This isnt just annoying issues like that.. its the issues where your wifi will just turn off and you need to reboot 100 times and worst case reinstall to get back. Lots of bugs being thrown down in the developer forums today.

I think apple intended this to be a public release when they made the roadmap a few months ago, but Yosemite is so far from public release with so many bugs that Apple did the right thing and waited till it was better. I expect to see a DP5 come out in a few weeks and see how it goes.
 
I really don't get why Artists (or Genres) need pictures. It unnecessarily bloats the interface out imo. Especially on iOS.

On iOS it looks just as Album view does. No extra bloat. The artist view then boots you into an album view.
 
Like the new iTunes icon, just they should have made it blue like it always has been, instead of orange/red.
 
Cover Flow

Still holding out hope they bring Cover Flow back! Any view options for that? One of the best visual aspects of the old iTunes, in my opinion, which is why I'm still using 10.7. :)
 

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On iOS it looks just as Album view does. No extra bloat. The artist view then boots you into an album view.

hmm, not sure I follow, but this is what I mean:

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Not only are the artist pictures unnecessary but they are also way too big there, which forces each field to be bigger vertically & leaves less room for artists names horizontally. You can barely see 5 artists on the screen at once.

I also hate how pressing through into an artist will put you in a song view with album "headers", meaning if you have a lot of albums for an artist you have scroll through to the bottom.

I dunno. I am not a designer or anything, but the layout of the music app on iOS 7 makes no sense to me at all.
 
Downloading Yosemite

This is starting to get interesting.

Does anyone know if there is a full DP4 or do I need to get an older version and update to DP4?

You can either upgrade from any version of Mac with a bigger download file size, or DP3 and have a smaller file size for the upgrade.

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Are we getting iTunes 12 on Mavericks? Is it going to look like that on all versions of OS X or just Yosemite?

Most likely just Yosemite, it would stand out a lot on Mavericks or earlier.

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What's your first impression on iTunes 12 ? The current iTunes is pretty slow so I was hoping 12 isn't. Even though it's a beta version it might be better/faster.

It seems to be a lot faster for me than iTunes 11 was.
 
Guys, Developer Previews are NOT feature complete. Dark mode is advertised as applying to menus, dock, Finder, and even apps. It is still early in development and not yet time to hone the eye candy. Features like Hand Off and SMS over iMessage seem to be taking priority because they are especially tricky to implement well. Same goes for the eye candy in iTunes. They haven't even stylized all of the sidebar icons yet, just look at the icon for "Books" and you will see. Just about any aspect of the visual design, even including system font, could change drastically before release.
 
Guys, Developer Previews are NOT feature complete. Dark mode is advertised as applying to menus, dock, Finder, and even apps.

No, they never advertised it applying to apps. The screenshot they showed at WWDC showed only the menu. Yes, there was a terminal command to add a work-in-progress dark mode that changed windows, but the wording in DP4 (says Dock and Menubar only, removed the "theme" text) suggests that they changed their minds. Of course, anything could change.
 
well its not removed now its just appears when you select playlists( see pictures i posted) it actually make sense now also when you plugin your phone it auto appears so no complains

Guess not. I still generally like it being there for placement, but as long as its still there when my phone's plugged in I can live.
 
hmm, not sure I follow, but this is what I mean:

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Not only are the artist pictures unnecessary but they are also way too big there, which forces each field to be bigger vertically & leaves less room for artists names horizontally. You can barely see 5 artists on the screen at once.

I also hate how pressing through into an artist will put you in a song view with album "headers", meaning if you have a lot of albums for an artist you have scroll through to the bottom.

I dunno. I am not a designer or anything, but the layout of the music app on iOS 7 makes no sense to me at all.

I think its great. It lets you see what the artist looks like. They kept the sizes the same as the album art. They slightly redesigned the views. Got rid of excess space here and there.. not sure about image size.
 
hmm, not sure I follow, but this is what I mean:

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Not only are the artist pictures unnecessary but they are also way too big there, which forces each field to be bigger vertically & leaves less room for artists names horizontally. You can barely see 5 artists on the screen at once.

I also hate how pressing through into an artist will put you in a song view with album "headers", meaning if you have a lot of albums for an artist you have scroll through to the bottom.

I dunno. I am not a designer or anything, but the layout of the music app on iOS 7 makes no sense to me at all.

Completely agreed. Drove me insane until I discovered Picky a couple months ago which is essentially the pre-iOS7 music app with some new features.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/picky-filter-queue-browse/id497110916?mt=8
 
This looks good, but the UI redesign is so minor. There is no radical changes. Handoff and the phone stuff is really exciting. Say what you want about Windows 8, but it sure was a radical design change. Very brave. Yosemite is more like nuances. I get excited for features, but I no longer get excited for design.
 
Great!

Honestly, Yosemite is brilliant. I'm finally wanting to use Safari, no more Chrome for me. Airdrop is brilliant, handoff is really convenient and useful. I think Safari is now by far the best browser for social media and sharing. Today's update of iTunes has improved iTunes. It's simple, a little bit easier to navigate, and the 'flat-er' design looks excellent. I like the direction Apple is headed.
 
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I don't know if anyone has already mentioned it but shouldn't "dark mode" be dependent on the application you run? I mean:

FinalCut: Dark
XCode: Light
Photoshop: Dark
Finder: Light

And what about support for multiple screens? Tools and menubar on one screen in light mode, dark mode on content screen?

And wouldn't it be nice if there was an API for that? So that a programmer can for example automatically set the mode on first startup?

Just a thought. Because this is what I actually expected dark mode to be. A little confused. What good is the current implementation for? I do not want to manually switch mode everytime a switch an application.
 
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