Apple Releases Penryn-Based MacBook Pros with Multitouch

[Acuity Mac Guru]

Just got my new MacBook Pro

2.6G
4G RAM
200G 7200RPM Drive
15" Screen

Very sweet, Multi-touch is nice.

Arrived 2 days early, was suppose to be here Wen by 10:30 and it got here today.

 

[chr1s60]

Just got my new MacBook Pro

2.6G
4G RAM
200G 7200RPM Drive
15" Screen

Very sweet, Multi-touch is nice.

Arrived 2 days early, was suppose to be here Wen by 10:30 and it got here today.

Nice. When did you order yours? I got an email last night saying mine had shipped, but so far all the tracking shows is the data transmitted.

 

[kenners]

Ordered a 2.6 with 7200rpm with matte screen on Feb 26, it left Shanghai 3-1, arrived Anchorage 1:27 pm 3-1, left Anchorage 3-2 @ 12:00 am, arrived Memphis 12:39 pm, departed Memphis 4:02 pm and is "In transit" for the past 16 hours ? due at Wa State prior to Wed 10:30 am

It arrived today before 10:30 am PST, roughly 1 to 2 days early, even thinking about opening it

 

[skiesforme]

Happy !

What is this throughput your talking about?.. was it your airport wireless card inside the new mbp that had a problem? Even ever since the first mbps that was released wireless downloaded and speed was blazing fast.

Yes the airport card inside the new MBP was defective. It won't give me "browsable" throughput forget about streaming multimedia on the web. Now since I got a replacement I am happy with blazing fast speeds !! Yohoooooooooooo

 

[devman]

Every window in OS X is a texture (assuming Quartz Extreme). More VRAM means more open windows can be stored in the video card's VRAM and not have to be "loaded" whenever they become visible.

(Brutally simple explanation, I know, but it gets the point across.)

you're right it is too simple.

A cocoa drawing app (for example) that simply does NS or CG drawing into a view is one thing.

A cocoa drawing app that makes use of CALayers and uses multiple of them for things like - well, layers! and animated layout previews, etc. etc. is entirely another matter regarding textures.

 

[Koolio27]

Just got my MBP 2.5Ghz from FedEx this morning, which was 1 day earlier than the expected arrival date!! All in all, it was shipped from Shanghai on March 1 and got to MA on March 3.

Man, I'm so psyched since I've waited over 1 year to upgrade from my Powerbook G4.

 

[chr1s60]

I am kind of mad, my estimated arrival is 4 days of shipping even though I paid for expedited 2-3 day shipping. Some people seem to have been getting theirs ahead of schedule, so I think I will wait before I contact Apple wanting a refund for my $15.

 

[Norris3eb]

Mbp

I ordered my MBP on Friday (leap day) as well. The website told me 7-10 days ship. I purchased through Guitar Center, though (great financing options).

I did the BTO...

17", 2.5Ghz, HD 1920x1200 Matte, and 2GB RAM (Went to Fry's, and picked up 4GB of AData Ram for $74.00)

Are the estimates on the website typically reliable? Or do the laptops come in relatively quick?

 

[harrison1000]

Just got my MBP 2.5Ghz from FedEx this morning, which was 1 day earlier than the expected arrival date!! All in all, it was shipped from Shanghai on March 1 and got to MA on March 3.

Man, I'm so psyched since I've waited over 1 year to upgrade from my Powerbook G4.

You Lucky B... I ordered mine last week and just got a despathed email from Apple but I just called them yesterday to ask why after being shipped would It take 8 days to arrive in Scotland. thay gave me the bad news it should take about 4 days from Shanghai but the lorry has been involved in a accident which will delay my order, no other info at the moment, If this happens, normally the goods are transfered to another vehicle which delays goods by one day but I guessing here that some damage has occured. was hoping to have a play with my new toy over the weekend, looks like that idea is scuppered for another week

 

[skorpien]

Mine just shipped today and expected to be here March 10th! Great news considering expected ship date was Mar. 6-11 with estimated arrival date being around Mar. 24. Can't wait... Been longing to be Windows free for a couple of years now.

 

[BornToMac]

Thank You Jesus

Ouch. Have they always charged you for the Apple remote? Because they do now. $19.

yes but now you get a schnazzy cloth to clean the screen w/!!!

 

[mactastic1971]

I am kind of mad, my estimated arrival is 4 days of shipping even though I paid for expedited 2-3 day shipping. Some people seem to have been getting theirs ahead of schedule, so I think I will wait before I contact Apple wanting a refund for my $15.

Its 2-3 business days shipping.
If it shipped on Friday and is arriving on Tuesday - even though thats 5 days inclusive, its only 3 days shipping.

 

[TimeWaster101]

Blast this is a hard decision for me:

A. I could get the current MBP in a month by my birthday and have it to use ALL summer! I still love the current design.

B. Wait for the next model. What if I don't like the new design. But maybe it'll be better looking? But I don't really want an air styled design. I like the curved rectangle look of the MBPs and MBs. However, regardless of how amazing the new design may look, what about all the issues there could be. The last thing I want to do is be fixing my computer all the time in college.

I really don't think I personally will notice a performance update with Montevina and I don't think the specs will change much. People keep saying it will be thinner, but here's why I disagree:

1. Mac laptops already have heating issues. Make the thing any smaller and it'll overheat (BAD!).
2. The nvidia 8600M is about the best that can fit and the 8800M is larger and creates more heat. Apple needs to future proof itself. If they get too ahead of themselves and make every thing super thin, there will be no room for extra features. Its better to have more space for extra features, than make an already very thin laptop thinner. Honestly, anyone who thinks 1" is too thick needs to take a shopping trip through the PC isle and compare.
3. if they make it thinner, it may resemble the Air's style (all curvy and such). While the air looks amazing, on a larger laptop, all the weird curves make not look right and may make the computer look too complicated and I associate Apple's design with simple. Simple usually is better. What is it I hate about the look of every PC laptop? All the stuff. Too many designs, to busy, and too clunky. I love that when you close a MB or MBP the whole thing is symetric and smooth. Also I'd rather have a solid laptop than one that resembles a wedge from the side (slopes from 1" to .5" or something)

But its a hard decision. I don't want to buy now then see the new one and wish I'd waited. Yet if the new is nothing special, I'll wish I'd bought already.

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR 2 CENTS!!!! Also does anyone have evidence for a redesign this summer. What if they wait until Nahelem. or will Nahelem premier on the Montevina Platform. Also this mumbo jumbo of the Air raising the bar for Apple's designs. HOW? THe air is a bare minimum computer. You can't create a notebook like the Air and fit the Pro's specs. So what of the air besides keyboard, magnetic latch, and bigger trackpad would they put? Make it curvier?

 

[chr1s60]

Its 2-3 business days shipping.
If it shipped on Friday and is arriving on Tuesday - even though thats 5 days inclusive, its only 3 days shipping.

Mine actually arrived today even though it was scheduled to be delivered Friday. I was originally mad because it shipped monday and was scheduled to be here Friday.

 

[diamond.g]

Blast this is a hard decision for me:

A. I could get the current MBP in a month by my birthday and have it to use ALL summer! I still love the current design.

B. Wait for the next model. What if I don't like the new design. But maybe it'll be better looking? But I don't really want an air styled design. I like the curved rectangle look of the MBPs and MBs. However, regardless of how amazing the new design may look, what about all the issues there could be. The last thing I want to do is be fixing my computer all the time in college.

I really don't think I personally will notice a performance update with Montevina and I don't think the specs will change much. People keep saying it will be thinner, but here's why I disagree:

1. Mac laptops already have heating issues. Make the thing any smaller and it'll overheat (BAD!).
2. The nvidia 8600M is about the best that can fit and the 8800M is larger and creates more heat. Apple needs to future proof itself. If they get too ahead of themselves and make every thing super thin, there will be no room for extra features. Its better to have more space for extra features, than make an already very thin laptop thinner. Honestly, anyone who thinks 1" is too thick needs to take a shopping trip through the PC isle and compare.
3. if they make it thinner, it may resemble the Air's style (all curvy and such). While the air looks amazing, on a larger laptop, all the weird curves make not look right and may make the computer look too complicated and I associate Apple's design with simple. Simple usually is better. What is it I hate about the look of every PC laptop? All the stuff. Too many designs, to busy, and too clunky. I love that when you close a MB or MBP the whole thing is symetric and smooth. Also I'd rather have a solid laptop than one that resembles a wedge from the side (slopes from 1" to .5" or something)

But its a hard decision. I don't want to buy now then see the new one and wish I'd waited. Yet if the new is nothing special, I'll wish I'd bought already.

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR 2 CENTS!!!! Also does anyone have evidence for a redesign this summer. What if they wait until Nahelem. or will Nahelem premier on the Montevina Platform. Also this mumbo jumbo of the Air raising the bar for Apple's designs. HOW? THe air is a bare minimum computer. You can't create a notebook like the Air and fit the Pro's specs. So what of the air besides keyboard, magnetic latch, and bigger trackpad would they put? Make it curvier?

Buy one now, then buy the new one and sell the one you buy now.

 

[skorpien]

Buy one now, then buy the new one and sell the one you buy now.

This is probably the best idea. Sure you might lose some money in the process, but you won't catch yourself wishing you had/hadn't waited. And if you don't like the design/specs of the new revision, then you could skip it altogether and keep the one you bought now.

 

[PeterC-7]

Blast this is a hard decision for me:

A. I could get the current MBP in a month by my birthday and have it to use ALL summer! I still love the current design.

B. Wait for the next model. What if I don't like the new design. But maybe it'll be better looking? But I don't really want an air styled design. I like the curved rectangle look of the MBPs and MBs. However, regardless of how amazing the new design may look, what about all the issues there could be. The last thing I want to do is be fixing my computer all the time in college.

I really don't think I personally will notice a performance update with Montevina and I don't think the specs will change much. People keep saying it will be thinner, but here's why I disagree:

1. Mac laptops already have heating issues. Make the thing any smaller and it'll overheat (BAD!).
2. The nvidia 8600M is about the best that can fit and the 8800M is larger and creates more heat. Apple needs to future proof itself. If they get too ahead of themselves and make every thing super thin, there will be no room for extra features. Its better to have more space for extra features, than make an already very thin laptop thinner. Honestly, anyone who thinks 1" is too thick needs to take a shopping trip through the PC isle and compare.
3. if they make it thinner, it may resemble the Air's style (all curvy and such). While the air looks amazing, on a larger laptop, all the weird curves make not look right and may make the computer look too complicated and I associate Apple's design with simple. Simple usually is better. What is it I hate about the look of every PC laptop? All the stuff. Too many designs, to busy, and too clunky. I love that when you close a MB or MBP the whole thing is symetric and smooth. Also I'd rather have a solid laptop than one that resembles a wedge from the side (slopes from 1" to .5" or something)

But its a hard decision. I don't want to buy now then see the new one and wish I'd waited. Yet if the new is nothing special, I'll wish I'd bought already.

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR 2 CENTS!!!! Also does anyone have evidence for a redesign this summer. What if they wait until Nahelem. or will Nahelem premier on the Montevina Platform. Also this mumbo jumbo of the Air raising the bar for Apple's designs. HOW? THe air is a bare minimum computer. You can't create a notebook like the Air and fit the Pro's specs. So what of the air besides keyboard, magnetic latch, and bigger trackpad would they put? Make it curvier?

The height-limiting factor isn't the heat, but the ports on the outside and the drives on the inside: notably the optical drive. The optical drive is here to stay for a while with Blue-Ray, and everyone seems to have also forgotten about the likelihood of FireWire 3200 arriving with Blue-Ray, which means that the Firewire 2 port will stay. As well there is the ethernet port - the thickest one and wireless isn't ubiquitous enough or quite fast enough for a desktop replacement to ditch it. Add room for gentle curves and there's a limit to how thin you can make the bottom shell. So the base should shrink minimally, but get progressively cooler and more powerful.

Hence we should likely expect to see styling changes such as a bigger track-pad maybe and definitely button carbon keys to simplify the look across the line. Coloured anodizing is also a maybe. This is likely to coincide with the introduction of Centrino 2 (Montevina).

The top shell is different. It's the hook-housings that are now the only limit to making it thinner. And since the hooks are also a major gripe, it seems likely that a thin lid with a mag latch is a distinct possibility. The only thing against it would be how well a thin lid would balance the aesthetics of the overall design.

Nehalem will debut on Montevina just like Penryn has on Santa Rosa. That is the standard Intel roadmap: cross processor/platform release in January, new platform in June. Montevina will have more impact for integrated graphics than dedicated cards. Expect performance enhancements more from software like Q-Time being optimised for SSE-4.

My advice is to buy now and plan for the Nehalem platform change which will be significant after June 09. By that time we should be seeing quad-cores on a four socket board with point-to-point CPU architecture (like the G5) instead of a frontside bus. July/August 09 is a long wait, and buying later in 08 is simply going to make the 09 change too close for a sensible cost-replacement cycle.

But you have to make up your own mind and that's my two cents worth. Happy birthday and enjoy the summer.

 

[TimeWaster101]

The height-limiting factor isn't the heat, but the ports on the outside and the drives on the inside: notably the optical drive. The optical drive is here to stay for a while with Blue-Ray, and everyone seems to have also forgotten about the likelihood of FireWire 3200 arriving with Blue-Ray, which means that the Firewire 2 port will stay. As well there is the ethernet port - the thickest one and wireless isn't ubiquitous enough or quite fast enough for a desktop replacement to ditch it. Add room for gentle curves and there's a limit to how thin you can make the bottom shell. So the base should shrink minimally, but get progressively cooler and more powerful.

Hence we should likely expect to see styling changes such as a bigger track-pad maybe and definitely button carbon keys to simplify the look across the line. Coloured anodizing is also a maybe. This is likely to coincide with the introduction of Centrino 2 (Montevina).

The top shell is different. It's the hook-housings that are now the only limit to making it thinner. And since the hooks are also a major gripe, it seems likely that a thin lid with a mag latch is a distinct possibility. The only thing against it would be how well a thin lid would balance the aesthetics of the overall design.

Nehalem will debut on Montevina just like Penryn has on Santa Rosa. That is the standard Intel roadmap: cross processor/platform release in January, new platform in June. Montevina will have more impact for integrated graphics than dedicated cards. Expect performance enhancements more from software like Q-Time being optimised for SSE-4.

My advice is to buy now and plan for the Nehalem platform change which will be significant after June 09. By that time we should be seeing quad-cores on a four socket board with point-to-point CPU architecture (like the G5) instead of a frontside bus. July/August 09 is a long wait, and buying later in 08 is simply going to make the 09 change too close for a sensible cost-replacement cycle.

But you have to make up your own mind and that's my two cents worth. Happy birthday and enjoy the summer.

Hey thanks so much for your input. I'm leaning towards the current model. I'm sure I'll be happy with either and I really need to get on with my life (not spend quite so many hours on this forum).

 

[ridehard]

Orded my Mbp on the 29th/02, shipped 03March
And still not here !

Oh the waiting ...

 

[Norris3eb]

It's Here!

I ordered my MBP on Friday (leap day) as well. The website told me 7-10 days ship. I purchased through Guitar Center, though (great financing options).

I did the BTO...

17", 2.5Ghz, HD 1920x1200 Matte, and 2GB RAM (Went to Fry's, and picked up 4GB of AData Ram for $74.00)

Are the estimates on the website typically reliable? Or do the laptops come in relatively quick?

OK..SO I got my MBP. It wasn't the one I ordered, though. I debated on sending it back, but decided just to keep it. The HD Screen isn't worth it.


So, for now, here's what I got:

17" MBP, 2.5 Ghz, 512 VRAM, 4GB RAM (Frys, $74), matte 1680x1050 screen. It's a BITCHIN' Fast machine. Tops my Windows PC..

I absolutely love it.

 

[Spag]

Delay

I received an e-mail this morning informing me of an "unexpected delay" which has extended my shipping date... hmmm...

my order:
MBP, 2.6GHz, 17" Hi-Rez Matte finish, 200GB@7200, 2 GB RAM (4 GB upgrade received last week from Crucial)

I placed the order on the 6th of March.

 

[catdog02481]

I have been calling the local Apple Stores incessantly about the 17"MBP hi-def with led backlighting. No luck, everyone says they are about to arrive any moment but still nothing so it could be the delay is the result of difficulty with the screen or high demand. I have the prev. generation hi-def 17" which i love in matte but a looking for better brightness.

 

[stevenfarrisohi]

Multitouch needs bigger touchpad

Upon reviewing the new MBP yesterday, I would have to agree that that MBP needs a bigger touchpad area. I have very skinny fingers and found myself unable to make some of the maneuvers.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Upon reviewing the new MBP yesterday, I would have to agree that that MBP needs a bigger touchpad area. I have very skinny fingers and found myself unable to make some of the maneuvers.

I have average fingers, kinda on large though, and I find the moves pretty easy to make. I agree that it needs to be larger, but it's not impossible to use MT on the smaller trackpad.

 

[happylau]

My first macbook pro

Well, I received my first Mac 2 days ago, a Macbook Pro 2.4, 2GB RAM, 200GB HDD 5400rpm, matte screen, spanish keyboard. It came one day earlier, luckily I checked the tracking info on time! It took 2 days to ship and 2 days to get to Boston with standard shipping.

First of all I'm now proud to say I've tried both Mac and Windows and absolutely adore the Mac experience. The software is so useful and nice

The screen is very very nice, matte is perfect for me because glossy used to give me a little bit of headache. The programs are easy to install and always work. The cameras and phones I've connected are detected and work perfectly so I really must say Mac has won a faithful customer.

The only problem I have is with Excel 2008 (ha...) because when I open certain sheets and click the + green button, Excel crashed and I can only press the power button and restart the computer... I've read many people have this problem.. Hope they fix it soon.

I absolutely love the trackpad, very very useful. I used to hate trackpads and always use a mouse 'til now!

I'm also thinking about buying 4GB of RAM from crucial or newegg (I think it's 78$) which would also be a major improvement, specially for running MatLab

Well, that's all, just happy