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Apple Releases PowerBooks and iBooks
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CDs follow the way of records, audio cassettes and 8-track tapes
Per MB, CD & 2xDVD media are about the same cost, with one large difference - CD media are limited to sub-GB storage on one disc.
If you don't need much storage, then CD media can be a perfect solution (including inkjet printable mini-CD and business card size/shaped CDs).
For those needing minimal capacity, CD media are a dirt cheap solution, which will continue for a short while until low speed DVD media become as cheap per disc as CDs.
CD media/players/burners are neither mammals nor marsupials, they are dinosaurs -- soon to follow audio cassette tapes and 45 rpm records into the La Brea tar-pit.
Have you checked out the new laser labeling technology? HP is behind it and I'm hoping that Pioneer and Apple adopt the technology in drives and media. No ink! No paper labels! No mess! Goodbye Stomper / Avery.
http://www.lightscribe.com/
FLIP & BURN.
Yes I still use my Yamaha high speed CD burner/player with T@2 labeling technology (not very good, light scribe is going to kill it) and the other day I copied a bunch of "training" audio cassettes I use simply because lots of people have Cassette players (including in their vehicles) but do not have CD or DVD players. The same holds true with VHS tape because of the tremendous base of installed players/recorders throughout the world.
Audiophiles continue to keep premium plastic records alive at high-end audio shops because some people absolutely love the analog sound of records compared to CD media. Proving, nothing is really completely dead or useless. Check out the price of old tube McIntosh (not Apple) amps on eBay sometime, if there are any for sale!.
http://www.roger-russell.com/mcrev.htm#amplifiers
With the advent of 8x DVD-R media (and soon 16x and DL), 4x DVD-R is under $2, and Apple has stopped bothering to carry 2x DVD-R, which are dirt cheap everywhere for well under a buck and rapidly getting cheaper daily.eazyc10 said:
Per MB, CD & 2xDVD media are about the same cost, with one large difference - CD media are limited to sub-GB storage on one disc.
If you don't need much storage, then CD media can be a perfect solution (including inkjet printable mini-CD and business card size/shaped CDs).
For those needing minimal capacity, CD media are a dirt cheap solution, which will continue for a short while until low speed DVD media become as cheap per disc as CDs.
CD media/players/burners are neither mammals nor marsupials, they are dinosaurs -- soon to follow audio cassette tapes and 45 rpm records into the La Brea tar-pit.
Have you checked out the new laser labeling technology? HP is behind it and I'm hoping that Pioneer and Apple adopt the technology in drives and media. No ink! No paper labels! No mess! Goodbye Stomper / Avery.
http://www.lightscribe.com/
FLIP & BURN.
Yes I still use my Yamaha high speed CD burner/player with T@2 labeling technology (not very good, light scribe is going to kill it) and the other day I copied a bunch of "training" audio cassettes I use simply because lots of people have Cassette players (including in their vehicles) but do not have CD or DVD players. The same holds true with VHS tape because of the tremendous base of installed players/recorders throughout the world.
Audiophiles continue to keep premium plastic records alive at high-end audio shops because some people absolutely love the analog sound of records compared to CD media. Proving, nothing is really completely dead or useless. Check out the price of old tube McIntosh (not Apple) amps on eBay sometime, if there are any for sale!.
http://www.roger-russell.com/mcrev.htm#amplifiers
lol, the gang's all here! now the funny thing would be to find out which of us are posting these messages on the last revision of powerbooks, and we're all so damn giddy to get this one i'll be the charter member of that group!
seriously though, i am really loving all this buzz... this revision has brought about more positive response and purchases from previous apple owners and new switchers than any revision in my memory, and it makes me happy to be an apple consumer right now.
i'll be the charter member of that group!seriously though, i am really loving all this buzz... this revision has brought about more positive response and purchases from previous apple owners and new switchers than any revision in my memory, and it makes me happy to be an apple consumer right now.
mxpiazza said:i'm on the plane too
I'm on that plane too...
(Buffalo, NY)
Althoigh I'm not going to fret if it's Tuesday instead of Monday (even if that's what fedEx STILL claims).
yes, that'd right... I will not fret...CANNOT fret...
or the clowns will get me...
EEEEP!
mxpiazza said:
it IS kinda nice, huh...
Now if only the glow could help me tan beyond the mere CRT one I have.
WOOP!
SlowX said:I'm on that plane too...
(Buffalo, NY)
Althoigh I'm not going to fret if it's Tuesday instead of Monday (even if that's what fedEx STILL claims).
yes, that'd right... I will not fret...CANNOT fret...
or the clowns will get me...
EEEEP!
yeah, i'm thinking tuesday as well... maybe if our books weren't sitting in shanghai for 36 hours, then i'd feel a bit better about them coming on monday, but as it is... i'm thinking tuesday. definitley wouldn't be opposed to monday, though...
i used standard when i ordered. i called apple to upgrade it to 2-day, when the guy kindly told me that all of the first batch of custom powerbooks coming from shanghai were all coming over via fedex IP direct, and that i'd still get it the same time anyways...
drop $2650, and he saves me $12 thanks, apple!
drop $2650, and he saves me $12
thanks, apple!eazyc10 said:
Yea, my printer and power adapter showed up on Tuesday. Just sitting there, lonely...
mxpiazza said:i used standard when i ordered. i called apple to upgrade it to 2-day, when the guy kindly told me that all of the first batch of custom powerbooks coming from shanghai were all coming over via fedex IP direct, and that i'd still get it the same time anyways...
drop $2650, and he saves me $12
HA!
(and same "standard shipping, got extras early" story here)
iBook shipping - waiting on BTO 17" powerbook
My wife's iBook (12", BTO 60gig HD) that I ordered direct from Apple shipped this morning - hoping for Tuesday delivery in Los Angeles.
My BTO/CTO 17" Powerbook (5400rpm, 128MB video) was ordered through MacWarehouse so who knows... I'm checking Powerbook Central to see when resellers get in the base 17" models and still shows no. Hopefully they'll have inventory early next week and hoping they get my CTO machine before this time next week - then it's two more days for the FedEx... painful but I keep reminding myself of the $250 sales tax.
I'm looking forward to a report early next week from some of you guys getting BTO 17" models - at that point I'll be close enough to taste it but right now I have to relax... relax... I can stay busy next week setting up the iBook... a small (literally) consolation...
I'll keep you posted on the arrival of the MacWarehouse BTO/CTO 17" PB!
d.
My wife's iBook (12", BTO 60gig HD) that I ordered direct from Apple shipped this morning - hoping for Tuesday delivery in Los Angeles.
My BTO/CTO 17" Powerbook (5400rpm, 128MB video) was ordered through MacWarehouse so who knows... I'm checking Powerbook Central to see when resellers get in the base 17" models and still shows no. Hopefully they'll have inventory early next week and hoping they get my CTO machine before this time next week - then it's two more days for the FedEx... painful but I keep reminding myself of the $250 sales tax.
I'm looking forward to a report early next week from some of you guys getting BTO 17" models - at that point I'll be close enough to taste it but right now I have to relax... relax... I can stay busy next week setting up the iBook... a small (literally) consolation...
I'll keep you posted on the arrival of the MacWarehouse BTO/CTO 17" PB!
d.
12" combo 256 80gb arrived today
ordered on monday evening, standard shipping. got my mini-DVI to video converter yesterday, and my 12" pb combo standard ram 80gb drive today.
it doesn't seem at all too hot. it does seem a LOT faster than my old 500 mhz g3 ibook.
i'm very impatient for my OWC ram though (1 gig). ordered on wednesday, shipped wednesday, but the ups tracking hasn't updated since 2am on thursday.
ordered on monday evening, standard shipping. got my mini-DVI to video converter yesterday, and my 12" pb combo standard ram 80gb drive today.
it doesn't seem at all too hot. it does seem a LOT faster than my old 500 mhz g3 ibook.
i'm very impatient for my OWC ram though (1 gig). ordered on wednesday, shipped wednesday, but the ups tracking hasn't updated since 2am on thursday.
OWC ordering info:
OWC27SAMSO1GB
1GB PC2700 DDR-SO 333MHz 200 Pin Memory - $359.99
OWC2700DDRS512A
512MB PC2700 DDR-SO 333MHz 200 Pin Memory - $117.99
These are Samsung modules like Apple's. I had a short email exchange with a guy at OWC suggesting that they had enlisted early revised powerbook owners to test RAM compatability. They have only advertised these as being compatible with the new models for a day or so.
Jon
OWC27SAMSO1GB
1GB PC2700 DDR-SO 333MHz 200 Pin Memory - $359.99
OWC2700DDRS512A
512MB PC2700 DDR-SO 333MHz 200 Pin Memory - $117.99
These are Samsung modules like Apple's. I had a short email exchange with a guy at OWC suggesting that they had enlisted early revised powerbook owners to test RAM compatability. They have only advertised these as being compatible with the new models for a day or so.
Jon
jeffh said:
The Motorola WR850G is supposed to be pretty good - I just ordered one for myself from newegg.com for ~$95.
Oh, and I think my 12" iBook BTO is also on the same plane as everyone else's 'Books, ordered late Monday night, apparently put on the plane this Friday morning. Almost everything else in my order already arrived (extra battery, protection plan, .Mac box, digital camera). But the poor iPod minis I ordered (one for me, one for girlfriend) are still unshipped, Apple says not until 5/25. Damn them!
...and MS Office 2004 won't ship until June 1.800-4-memory (18004memory.com)
Ordered for two machines, 1Ghz iBook and 1.5Ghz 17" PB:
512MB DDR 2100 for iBook = $103.00
1GB DDR 2700 (PC333) for PB = $319.00
no tax in California, Fedex for both together (2-day) was $12.
Arrives today! (Something arrives... at least the memory will be here waiting when the machines arrive, not the other way around)
d.
Ordered for two machines, 1Ghz iBook and 1.5Ghz 17" PB:
512MB DDR 2100 for iBook = $103.00
1GB DDR 2700 (PC333) for PB = $319.00
no tax in California, Fedex for both together (2-day) was $12.
Arrives today! (Something arrives... at least the memory will be here waiting when the machines arrive, not the other way around)
d.
xBench results of the 1.5 GHz are up...
Weird...
Both of the two 1.5 GHz pBooks put up on the xBench comparison site have lower scores than I anticipated... Easily outdone by most 1.33 GHz counterparts, even the one with 128 MB Ram... I wonder why that is...
Weird...
Both of the two 1.5 GHz pBooks put up on the xBench comparison site have lower scores than I anticipated... Easily outdone by most 1.33 GHz counterparts, even the one with 128 MB Ram... I wonder why that is...
Mac Memory?
Hey all,
I'm new here, although I've been lurking for the past month or so... I've been doing as much research as possible on the PowerBooks, and now that the new ones have been made available, I'm ready to make the switch!
I have a question regarding memory... I've come across this site that offers SODIMM memory, but I want to make sure that these are the correct ones to purchase. There are four different brands all ranging in price. Which would you recommend, if any, I go with?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...tails.asp?EdpNo=493054&Sku=K43-2934&CatId=555
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...etails.asp?EdpNo=84753&Sku=U93-2914&CatId=555
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...details.asp?EdpNo=6993&Sku=C13-2912&CatId=555
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...etails.asp?EdpNo=93627&Sku=P56-2908&CatId=555
Also, have any Canadians received their new PBs (BTO or standard configurations)? I'm curious to see what the wait times are.
Thank you!
Frank
Hey all,
I'm new here, although I've been lurking for the past month or so... I've been doing as much research as possible on the PowerBooks, and now that the new ones have been made available, I'm ready to make the switch!
I have a question regarding memory... I've come across this site that offers SODIMM memory, but I want to make sure that these are the correct ones to purchase. There are four different brands all ranging in price. Which would you recommend, if any, I go with?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...tails.asp?EdpNo=493054&Sku=K43-2934&CatId=555
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...etails.asp?EdpNo=84753&Sku=U93-2914&CatId=555
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...details.asp?EdpNo=6993&Sku=C13-2912&CatId=555
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...etails.asp?EdpNo=93627&Sku=P56-2908&CatId=555
Also, have any Canadians received their new PBs (BTO or standard configurations)? I'm curious to see what the wait times are.
Thank you!
Frank
the type of RAM depends on the system that you decide to go with. Go to the hardware page of Apple's web site, then look at the technical specs of the system you are going to purchase. it will show the type of RAM that your system takes; make your decision based on that info.
when it comes to RAM manufacturers, going with a name brand always helps. RAM that I have had success with with absolutely no problems are Crucial, Kingston, and Samsung.
hope this helped, enjoy your new system!
when it comes to RAM manufacturers, going with a name brand always helps. RAM that I have had success with with absolutely no problems are Crucial, Kingston, and Samsung.
hope this helped, enjoy your new system!
mxpiazza said:
mxpiazza,
Sorry, I completely forgot to mention the configuration I'm looking at... It's the 12"PB. The ones I mentioned are:
Corsair
US Modular
K-Byte
PNY
Would you recommend any of the above? I'll also have a look at the ones you've mentioned.
Thanks... I haven't ordered yet, but I will definitely be looking forward to it!
i have heard of Corsair and PNY, haven't heard of the others... with off-brand stuff, you usually get what you pay for. If a name brand is like $10 or so more expensive, it'll probably be worth the trouble to drop the $10 and not have to return and reorder and so on.
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I am not sure about them in general. If you look around - you will see a drastic difference in scores, like dual 2.0 G5 with the Radeon 9800 getting beat by a much lesser computers. But then other Dual 1.8 G5s with the standard (Radeon 9600?) are very highly rated.
There is even drastic ranges of scores for the powerbooks...
My guess is that some people are running the test with other stuff going on on their machine or something. How else can we have such wide ranges of scores for identical hardware configurations?
Strange.
Mokona said:Weird...
Both of the two 1.5 GHz pBooks put up on the xBench comparison site have lower scores than I anticipated... Easily outdone by most 1.33 GHz counterparts, even the one with 128 MB Ram... I wonder why that is...
I am not sure about them in general. If you look around - you will see a drastic difference in scores, like dual 2.0 G5 with the Radeon 9800 getting beat by a much lesser computers. But then other Dual 1.8 G5s with the standard (Radeon 9600?) are very highly rated.
There is even drastic ranges of scores for the powerbooks...
My guess is that some people are running the test with other stuff going on on their machine or something. How else can we have such wide ranges of scores for identical hardware configurations?
Strange.