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Apple Releases Revised Mac OS X 10.6.8 With Patch for Existing Users

floatingspirit said:
baloney! For example?
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Whenever I upgrade to a new OS, I keep a running bug tally for the first couple of releases. So far, Lion's tally is up to 12. These are the ones that come readily to mind:

1. Wireless drivers are very flaky and won't respond for several seconds for no obvious reason. Ethernet may or may not be better.
2. I can make rubber band scrolling stick farther than its supposed to if I touch my trackpad wrong.
3. Rubber band scrolling is also inconsistent. For example, it works in Safari but not Firefox.
4. If one selects the option to show the input menu at the login window, it will always show the name of the input source after a reboot in my menu bar, even after I select the hide option. Especially annoying for a name as long as "Dvorak - Qwerty ⌘" crowding out MenuMeters.
5. My MacBook Pro's backlit keyboard is normally set to turn off after ten seconds. In Lion, it will turn on for no reason again in 15-20 seconds. The only workaround is to manually turn it on and off.
6. Three finger swipe to navigate will occasionally stop working for no apparent reason.
7. My ambient light sensor doesn't always adjust the backlight to match the room I'm in.

I clean installed Lion to an empty partition from an install DVD and chose not to use Migration Assistant, so this install is actually cleaner than most.
 
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ThomasJL said:
On June 23, I installed the first version of the "10.6.8 Update Combo." I have a question: For the absolute best potential reliability and stability, which revised 10.6.8 update should I now install: The "10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1" or the "10.6.8 Supplemental Update"?
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If you can spare the extra bandwidth, install the 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 for maximum reliability...
 
sticking with snow leopard. Found way to many bugs in Lion to use it. Its frankly a total mess.
 
BJonson said:
sticking with snow leopard. Found way to many bugs in Lion to use it. Its frankly a total mess.
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Same here. I am keeping Lion on a 2nd partition so I can try it again as each update comes out but for now it's good old trustworthy Snow Leopard.
 
Squuiid said:
Yeah, +1.
Where is the supplemental update to fix Optical/HDMI bug in 10.7? :mad:
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You said it. I've had no sound in my external speakers since upgrading to Lion and have spent fruitless hours trying to initiate fixes. To no avail.
 
Lets not even talk about them getting rid of all of the things I love about OS X like expose, 3 finger auto scroll in firefox, front row but look at these bugs I found so far...

- Not only did they change the loop shortcut in quicktime but now when you select loop it doesn't loop.

- My firewire 800 drive is now useless. Won't read it properly and then disconnects.

- Disk utility is hosed. I see ghost drives connected that are not connected.

- Office 2008 not compatible.

I could go on but what was apple thinking? This Lion is rubbish. one step forward 10 steps back.
 
BJonson said:
Lets not even talk about them getting rid of all of the things I love about OS X like expose, 3 finger auto scroll in firefox, front row but look at these bugs I found so far...

- Not only did they change the loop shortcut in quicktime but now when you select loop it doesn't loop.

- My firewire 800 drive is now useless. Won't read it properly and then disconnects.

- Disk utility is hosed. I see ghost drives connected that are not connected.

- Office 2008 not compatible.

I could go on but what was apple thinking? This Lion is rubbish. one step forward 10 steps back.
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Interesting analysis. I'm running several daisy-chained Firewire 800 drives in Lion without any issues, have no issue with Disk Utility, and I don't run Office 2008. :) No comment on QuickTime.
 
Small White Car said:
Ugh. Totally.

Our Macs at work aren't online so I can't just say "check for updates." I have to download updates and bring them over on a flash drive. This kind of thing makes it MUCH harder to keep track of what needs to be done on each machine.

Sure, I can read this article today and do this now, but what if one of them needs to be re-formatted in the future? I'll have to remember this specific thing and look it up in the future and then download it in addition to 10.6.8. Just putting out 10.6.9 would have been so much easier.
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Internal Software Update Server FTW?
 
How come i haven't had any of these "bugs" other people are? hah.
My loop command in quicktime works fine.
Disk utility isn't doing anything weird.
Office 2008 is working fine for me? opened typed and saved a document, powerpoint, and excel..
 
Totally buggy, avoid at ALL costs. I've never said that, but this is pretty bad.

Half my apps don't work (why?). I imagine there are forcing progress, which is a painful process I guess. I understand that, i'm just not going to participate as i'm averse to pain. :D

Also, it's does not feel smooth. It's glitchy.

I'll wait about 3 months (maybe sooner...or later LOL) until i switch.
 
Glad to see Apple is still supporting SL, although Lion is working wonderfully for me. Mission Control is a huge improvement over Expose/Spaces that works really well with full-screen apps. Currently just waiting on products like Office 2011 and Firefox to build in Lion support [which they should have done already].

That being said, Launchpad is pretty bad. It's way too hard to organize. And ordering desktops in MC would really be appreciated. iTunes has a few issues with full-screen mode too. But my main qualms are with third-party apps that weren't ready for Lion.

Overall however, Lion makes doing things much easier.
 
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They should update Lion as well. Too many crashes on all Adobe CS4 and CS5 products.
And I am starting to see the Rainbow Ball too much already. Very disappointed.
 
Azathoth said:
Lol wut?

Apple is so great because they release bug fixes - fixing things that they messed up in the first place - and managed to do it in a thoroughly confusing manner, by not updating the version number (e.g. to 10.6.8.1)?
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Would you rather that they take weeks or months to fix bugs?

There are bugs in every piece of software. Apple is pretty pro-active, but not perfect. They generally get fixes out relatively quickly.
 
Apple Hurts People with Lion.

"Over 250 features (?) , plus 1200 Bugs*"

*119x Bugs than Snow Leopard.
 
I have not had a single problem running Lion on a 2008 black MB and a 2009 MBP. Everything just works just like it did in SL. Printer works, external firewire works, WiFi works immediately after waking and disk utility doesn't show ghost drives.

Obviously because every computer setup is different, there has to be something that people have installed to be causing these problems. This would explain why some experience these issues and some don't.

I would never consider going back to SL after using since release.
 
wizard said:
...Given that there is no resin to hold off that I can see. The OS will never be complete and bug free, so waiting for that to happen is silly...
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There is a huge difference in stability between Lion and Snow Leopard, so your argument doesn't hold water. I won't bother listing all of the programs that were stable on Snow Leopard, but are now flaky or crashing on Lion. If you have a program that runs well, does it make sense to installing an OS that breaks it? Well, that is unless you only care about the OS and don't actually get any work done on your computer? I mean, why should you care if there are problems with AdobeCS apps if all you use is textedit or photobooth?

People who actually rely on their computers to get work done, or don't want to worry about crashing, shouldn't be so quick to jump on the newest OS. But hey, thanks for beta testing for the rest of us. The smart ones will know when to upgrade and it's usually a few months after a major release.

hexonxonx said:
I have not had a single problem running Lion on a 2008 black MB and a 2009 MBP. Everything just works just like it did in SL. ...
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Yeah... but how about your software? You know... those pesky 3rd party applications that the majority of people rely on. How's Flash or Quicktime content playing for you? Eh, don't worry, you'll be okay... just stay away from all websites that serve Flash content or rely on Quicktime.
 
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THX1139 said:
People who actually rely on their computers to get work done, or don't want to worry about crashing, shouldn't be so quick to jump on the newest OS. But hey, thanks for beta testing for the rest of us. The smart ones will know when to upgrade and it's usually a few months after a major release.
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Way to be snarky.

Not everyone has a perfect experience. Just like not everyone has Lion crashing and having apps that worked fine under Snow Leopard.

Your experience is not everyone's.
 
I'm having great luck with Lion.

The only "improvement" I've reverted is the 3 column mail layout. (I use the "Classic" Snow Leopard layout -- too many different mail boxes to fight with the new layout. Probably time to consolidate accounts anyway I guess.)

Dual Firewire 800 drives, MS Office 2011, iWork '09 all work fine. EyeTV (notorious for not liking OS changes) works fine also, they apparently did testing and did a pre-Lion update to address issues.

The only App that doesn't work properly for me right now is Parallels 5. I checked, and Parallels updated Parallels 6 to work with Lion, but won't be updating Parallels 5. I've found I don't use Parallels all that much (haven't used it this year yet...) so I probably won't be updating.

I did install the updates on the one Mac that I haven't updated yet -- but I probably missed out on most of the "migration" clean up benefits, as I had already migrated the other machines to Lion.
 
Seems like a useful update, though I can't run Lion on my current Mac. The OS requires a Dual Core 2 processor as a minimum and I only have Dual Core.

Has anyone tried running Lion with a Dual Core processor and 2GB RAM? I wanna make sure it works so I don't end up wasting time.
 
EraqEE said:
Seems like a useful update, though I can't run Lion on my current Mac. The OS requires a Dual Core 2 processor as a minimum and I only have Dual Core.

Has anyone tried running Lion with a Dual Core processor and 2GB RAM? I wanna make sure it works so I don't end up wasting time.
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Lion will not run on a "Core Duo" processor, nor a "Core Solo" (used on the first generation Intel Mac Mini), since those processors are 32-bit.

Lion requires a 64-bit processor ("Core 2 Duo", "Xeon", "Core i3", "Core i5" or "Core i7"). There is no way to work around this requirement, since a lot of the code in Lion is only compiled for 64-bit processors.

I've seen reports from people who have a first or second gen Intel Mac Mini that had the CPU upgraded to a "Core 2 Duo". Lion still refuses to install, so it must be looking for something else like the model identifier. They haven't reported yet whether workaround methods like cloning will get Lion running.

Even if a workaround was successful, maximum RAM in the models that originally came with a Core Solo/Duo is 2 GB, which doesn't give you any room for expansion over Lion's minimum.

I have Lion running on my 2 GHz mid 2007 Mac Mini (which came with a Core 2 Duo), in 2 GB of RAM. It has about 1 GB of free RAM after the system is up and running, which is probably enough for lightweight use but I wouldn't want to run memory hungry apps. It seems fine for basic use and my own compatibility testing.
 
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