Apple Releases Revised macOS Catalina Supplemental Update

[roland.g]

Still doesn’t claim to fix mail issue. So no go.

 

[AppleTO]

There is no reason to make excuses for them. Apple is making a lot of mistakes, and their once-famous quality has taken a huge plunge. The culture in post-Jobs era has finally started to shift, and the result is, expectedly, bad. There has a been mass exodus of senior management at Apple, and very questionable hires. Unsurprisingly, this has led to poor quality. Apple is learning the hard way that you can't just do things however you want and still produce the same legendary results.

That may be your opinion, which is of course valid, but keep in mind many think otherwise as well. There is a reason they are one of the most valuable companies in the world.

 

[PastaPrimav]

That may be your opinion, which is of course valid, but keep in mind many think otherwise as well. There is a reason they are one of the most valuable companies in the world.

I don't care what others think. I don't subscribe to this concept that everyone has an opinion. That's a lie wrong people tell themselves.

There is reason they became the most valuable company in the world, and none of what they are doing right now in the software space resembles that.

 

[hamiltonDSi]

My iCloud login is stuck in some kind of loop.

Keep asking for my iCloud password then my Mac password over and over again. Not holding it.

same thing to me. i upgraded from the previous version of OS X via the app store.
the only way i could fix it was to do backup all my data, make a catalina bootable drive and wipe my ssd and do a clean install.

it took me 2 days to make my mac like before. damn u catalina.

 

[coolfactor]

Personally, I’d prefer they release fewer, rock-solid releases.

Well, the "once-a-year" release is part of the problem. If they adopted a "smaller, more frequent" update schedule, the system would likely be more stable as it receives new features. Instead, they RELEASE...... WORK ON SOMETHING BIG .... RELEASE .... BUG FIX, BUG FIX, BUG FIX....

The Something Big is purely marketing-driven. Other operating systems, namely in the Linux/UNIX worlds, are more stable because they have more frequent, more incremental updates. But Apple wants to surprise its users with something new and exciting once a year, and that giant leap causes these types of migration problems.

 

[twistedpixel8]

My iCloud login is stuck in some kind of loop.

Keep asking for my iCloud password then my Mac password over and over again. Not holding it.

Had this on my Apple Watch. Imagine how irritating that is during a workout trying to enter the password on the watch... tried the “use iPhone as keyboard” thing which, of course, did not work even after 6 attempts.

I’ve completely lost faith in Apple’s ability to create solid software. It’s not just minor bugs, it’s the whole system and it just feels like a beta.

 

[Roykatz]

I still don't see the update in my MBA 13'' 2014..

 

[crjackson2134]

It didn't show up as an update for me either. I had the previous update installed.

I downloaded the full installer and ran it like an update. This resulted in a new build number that includes todays update.

I see no difference. I wonder what it fixed...

 

[Bystander]

Awful graphic! Been bugging me for ages.

 

[joelhinch]

Is the HDMI issue fixed on the Mac mini?

 

[hagjohn]

I'd prefer solid releases.

Updates don't necessarily mean things are good. Frequent updates definitely don't mean things are getting better fast.

I think we all would but that is not the world we live in today. Apple released a less than stellar MacOS (and iOS), so we will get frequent updates. There isn't much they/we can do about it now.

 

[joelhinch]

Apple did not tell people to avoid installing Catalina on Mac minis. There was a fake document someone posted on these forums (now removed) which was the only place this claim was made.

But if you use a HDMI monitor. Many people are claiming issues. Myself included.

 

[konqerror]

Why would you assume that? Do you work for Apple? Constant updates are required on modern internet connected operating systems. Sometimes these unfortunately require major OS changes. This isn't unique to Apple. macOS, like Windows 10, is now being presented as a service. There is no final version.

You know people, it's really not a big deal if Apple releases updates every week. Look at all the other operating systems.

It does when it takes your computer down for 15-30 minutes and requires a full reboot. Worse is when these releases are unscheduled. Having to do this once a week is only acceptable for kids at home, not a professional workplace.

Microsoft has Patch Tuesday and pre-releases what versions are going to be affected. People can schedule around that, i.e. making sure long-running jobs aren't started right before. Google has 6 week cycles on Chrome/Chromebooks. Cisco has 3 and 6 month cycles since their reboots may require taking down networks.

And if you want to compare to Microsoft, LTS and server versions have 1 decade of security support. Same with Linux vendors like Red Hat. Apple has nothing close. iOS has zero back-version security support.

Overall, this is a huge reason why businesses use Windows and not Macs.

Apple has no such discipline and is obvious that these updates are putting out fires from prematurely released software.

 

[Minuteman3]

I was running the last couple of beta builds on my MacBook Pro (2015) as a tester. On release day, I opted OUT of the beta in Settings. My Mac is still on 19A582a Catalina Beta. I have tried to get both of the supplemental updates, thinking that might sync things back to normal, but they are not offered up. Anyone have an idea how to get back in the "non-beta" lane .... without wiping the disk and starting over!!

Thanks in advance.

Ken

 

[chrfr]

I was running the last couple of beta builds on my MacBook Pro (2015) as a tester. On release day, I opted OUT of the beta in Settings. My Mac is still on 19A582a Catalina Beta. I have tried to get both of the supplemental updates, thinking that might sync things back to normal, but they are not offered up. Anyone have an idea how to get back in the "non-beta" lane .... without wiping the disk and starting over!!

Thanks in advance.

Ken

You need to download the full Catalina installer from the App Store, and install that.
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But if you use a HDMI monitor. Many people are claiming issues. Myself included.

I'm not disputing whether or not people are having problems, but Apple hasn't told users to avoid installing.

 

[hagjohn]

I was running the last couple of beta builds on my MacBook Pro (2015) as a tester. On release day, I opted OUT of the beta in Settings. My Mac is still on 19A582a Catalina Beta. I have tried to get both of the supplemental updates, thinking that might sync things back to normal, but they are not offered up. Anyone have an idea how to get back in the "non-beta" lane .... without wiping the disk and starting over!!

Thanks in advance.

Ken

You have to take yourself off beta and load the Catalina version from the App Store.

 

[Chris The Bipolarbear]

I can't even download full installer all I get is

 

[RyanXM]

New build number is 19A603 (up from 19A602 last time)

Mac App Store full download was updated as well.

Launch Day Version - 15.0.32
October 15th - 15.0.33
October 21st - 15.0.34

 

[BarlesCharkley]

I was running the last couple of beta builds on my MacBook Pro (2015) as a tester. On release day, I opted OUT of the beta in Settings. My Mac is still on 19A582a Catalina Beta. I have tried to get both of the supplemental updates, thinking that might sync things back to normal, but they are not offered up. Anyone have an idea how to get back in the "non-beta" lane .... without wiping the disk and starting over!!

Thanks in advance.

Ken

I can't even download full installer all I get is

Same issues as these guys. Can anyone help?

 

[xxanderxu]

i dont really understand all the griping about updates this season between iOS and catalina. they're not the most solid of releases, but i'd prefer apple to be on more frequent updating schedules.

they tend to just release the occasional major .x update, but otherwise nothing important happens except for once a year. so especially in the case of iOS, the software gets incredibly stale with the lack of progress, which mostly only takes place with jailbreak tweaks.

While having updates is better than leaving features to rot, it does not excuse the frequency this time around, esp considering the new updates are primarily bug fixes that add nothing to the user experience.

 

[Chris The Bipolarbear]

Anyone who is having difficulties updating and Needs to download full installer?
Open terminal and run this script.
softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer
Leave terminal open whilst it downloads. It downloads to your applications Folder. To check you have correct installer right click get info New installer was created 17th October and is version 15.0.34. see screen shot correct installer is shown on left.

 

[Babygotfont]

You know people, it's really not a big deal if Apple releases updates every week. Look at all the other operating systems. To be honest, I would like to see constant weekly updates to macOS of varying size. (Sometimes 10.15.x updates, sometimes 10.15.x.x updates). Some apps already do this.

What really drives me nuts though, is that these supplemental updates don't have a revision number in terms of the OS version. (Obviously the build is different though.)

can someone tell me why safari rarely receives updates but chrome, opera, Firefox receives weekly if not daily updates?

 

[Minuteman3]

Anyone who is having difficulties updating and Needs to download full installer?
Open terminal and run this script.
softwareupdate --fetch-full-installer
Leave terminal open whilst it downloads. It downloads to your applications Folder. To check you have correct installer right click get info New installer was created 17th October and is version 15.0.34. see screen shot correct installer is shown on left.View attachment 871559

This worked perfectly!! Thanks!!

Ken

 

[extrachrispy]

You can pretty easily tell who in this thread has a software development background and who does not.

 

[L Caputo]

Personally, I’d prefer they release fewer, rock-solid releases.

That doesn't really read well, it sounds like you would prefer them to release more, flakier releases.
Which of course they are.

I do know what you mean though.
What I think they should really do as they love to tell us how much money they are making
they should reduce the prices of their products to more attainable levels. Instead of the let's see what the idiots will pay.