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Apple Releases Safari 3.1.1, Addresses PWN2OWN Vulnerability

thejadedmonkey said:
Why is the Safari update like 2.5 times larger then all of Firefox is? That's just aggravating...
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I don't get this either. Everything Apple has for you to download (i.e., iTunes, Safari, etc.) is all HUGE. 53 MB for a music player? Yikes. And this is true for both Windows and Mac.
 
jbernie said:
No this time we complain and say the only reason the pwn2own issue was fixed because it got so much publicity so they had to fix it fast to look like they are responding to customers needs when clearly if you look at the memory leak issues listed just on the first page of the thread there are more important things to fix that would make end users much happier.
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Time for some education for you. If you really knew what you were talking about, you would've avoided saying what you just said. WebKit is an open-source project and memory leaks are definitely not being ignored by the developers. It's not something as simple as you make it out to be.

For some enlightenment, keep an eye on this page.

Tons of things fixed 7 days a week. Software can be complex.
 
TheSpecialist said:
Because Dashboard uses Webkit, so that also needs to restart. It's stupid though that Apple doesn't just restart Dashboard and be done with it.
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There are dozens of other applications that use WebKit - other Apple apps plus many third-party apps. Trying to identify and restart only those applications while leaving others running is likely more hassle than it's worth.
 
Apple Releases Safari 3.1.1

The new Safari crashed the first two times that I opened it after the restart.
 
themoonisdown09 said:
I've never had this problem. I reset Safari about once a week and it works perfectly every time.
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For me, it doesn't work consistently. If I reset and then close Safari then restart Safari, all the cookies will still be there. I will still be logged in to sites I visit. If I reset, then reset again, but with an option changed--for instance, deselect "Close all Safari windows"--the reset will work. Go figure.

HLdan said:
What do you mean by "change an option" for the reset to work?
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Stridder44 said:
I don't get this either. Everything Apple has for you to download (i.e., iTunes, Safari, etc.) is all HUGE. 53 MB for a music player? Yikes. And this is true for both Windows and Mac.
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Not to mention that Safari is not XSlimmable, it hopefully won't be too long until the installer can manage to figure out if you're on Intel or PPC and install accordingly.
 
I though Bill gates was behind the entire plot to make Apple look bad. so it was not just made up, there really was a hole in Safari.
 
Stridder44 said:
I don't get this either. Everything Apple has for you to download (i.e., iTunes, Safari, etc.) is all HUGE. 53 MB for a music player? Yikes. And this is true for both Windows and Mac.
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possibility includes

1. apple doesn't know how to do partial upgrade

2. nobody care so no pressure on apple

My bet is #2, and that needs to change.:) some ppl are way too forgiving to apple's shortcomings

yusufg110 said:
Not sure if 3.1.1 fixes it or this will require 10.5.3 also

http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/04/04/nasty-bug-safari-doesnt-cache-stuff/
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I doubt it, Im not even sure its a priority bug.. sometimes can be indeed annoying tho.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Ooh! Let me guess what it fixes! Um... "general compatibility and security issues"

Edit: Well, actually, I forgot stability!
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It's uncanny!

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Yahoo Mail is still glitchy and slow to open, though it's nice that Safari works with the new Beta format.

Opening multiple windows still takes far longer than it used to, though that came with Leopard, I think that has more to do with the iMac getting older.

Aside from that everything works smoothly, there are no noticeable changes post installation.

Safari has been improving with every new version, I prefer it to FF, Safari delivers a better overall user experience. I don't think it will be too much longer before Safari is the web browser to beat.
 
bob-innox said:
What's with all the "Requires a restart" nonsense?

Is this to make it compatible with Windows?
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i'm confused here as a new comer. so this fanboy was saying to me his power mac was left on for over a year (literally), never shut down, never restarted.

and now you're saying updating requires a restart on mac? you know i really hate restarting windoooze after all the important security updates. for me its more important to keep the system "on" no matter what, i couldn't care less about the security patches. who needs them. maybe the windows folks.

that's why i use mac now.
 
Installed and restarted with no problems.

It makes me happy to know Apple are paying attention, and the fact they gave credit to those who found the security vulnerabilities.

I don't complain about a restart - big deal. Takes 30 seconds. I'm just glad that Apple patched the issue within a few weeks.
 
chagla said:
i'm confused here as a new comer. so this fanboy was saying to me his power mac was left on for over a year (literally), never shut down, never restarted.

and now you're saying updating requires a restart on mac? .
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its really depends on what u do. i opened word, excel, firefox, virtualdesktop . let it sleep on the way between office and home. Tiger getting very slow in a day, reboot is needed.
 
chagla said:
and now you're saying updating requires a restart on mac? you know i really hate restarting windoooze after all the important security updates. for me its more important to keep the system "on" no matter what, i couldn't care less about the security patches. who needs them. maybe the windows folks.

that's why i use mac now.
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SOME updates require restarts. I think there will always be situations where this is necessary, though they should be rare.

And it wasn't always this day. I remember in the good ol' days, when I was happily using my DOS PC with Windows 3.1, my friend had a PowerMac running OS 8. It had Conflict Catcher and some kind of extension manager running, and every time we wanted to do something different he'd say "just a second" as he'd load a new profile of extensions and reboot. And when something went wrong he'd keep tweaking the number and order of extensions that loaded and reboot again. All the while insisting his Mac was superior to my PC. :D

Good times.
 
chagla said:
i'm confused here as a new comer. so this fanboy was saying to me his power mac was left on for over a year (literally), never shut down, never restarted.
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Anyone who's not rebooting *any* operating system in a year or more is not applying all of the updates. End of story. Neither Windows, OS X, or any of the actively developed Linux distributions go a whole year, AFAIK, only providing updates that do not require reboot.

I reboot my iMac once every 3-4 weeks and just apply all the available updates at that time. My Eee running Ubuntu I reboot daily purely because of the way it drains the battery when sleeping, so it's a non-issue. But even in Linux, the kernel changes on at least a yearly basis, so you can't stay updated and have an uptime of one or two or three years...

On the other hand, with servers or other specialized uses, udpates may not always be necessary or valuable.
 
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