Apple Releases Seventh Beta of macOS Big Sur to Developers

[strangeengine]

I really want to see Mail get an attachment manager. It’s just nuts how attachments are inline in the messages. And Mail sends images inline instead of as an attachment. Outlook has a bin at the top. It’s superior.

No. It's 2020. Even Mail has this part figured out.

- Mark

 

[blacktape242]

Adobe Acrobat FINALLY WORKS in this beta.

hoping for public beta tomorrow, i was really stupid updating this go around.

 

[robertpetry]

Did they make it easier to see which tab is selected in Safari? When I have a bunch of tabs open the distinction between the selected and background tabs is almost imperceptible.

 

[Mr. Dee]

I think macOS 11 is turning out to be complex project for Apple more than they anticipated; not to mention the other code bases they are developing: iOS, iPad OS, watchOS, tvOS and the hardware they run on at the same time.

The biggest challenge is the fact that they want this release to be consistent across architectures: Apple Silicon and Intel. Its likely an internal headache to manage the two, too. Its partly why I don't think they will not release anymore Intel Macs for the rest of the year, which further suggest they will likely drop Intel support for Intel Macs by 2022. So, macOS 11.2 will likely be the last supported release, which will technically be maintained until 2023 or 2024.

Yes, its weird, because the hardware is so good and last so much longer these days. Your 2019 MacBook Pro which runs as good as they day you first booted up, it will feel really bad to know, you won't get any more versions of macOS after 2022.

 

[ZipZilla]

meanwhile, catalina is still unusable and we are already creating more bugs for people's intel hardware they will be stuck with in 2 years

 

[falkon-engine]

I'm so tempted upgrade to Big Sur but don't want to deal with the bugs. We'll probably see this released in October right? But even then, it could still be buggy

Big sur still needs some polish, but in my testing it seems better than Catalina in my opinion... Catalina was a disaster.

 

[Jaekae]

I hope this beta fixes the bug I’ve had with Skype not picking up my microphone.

Only buhs ive had is with 3rd party software, and the 3rd party developers will not release thier updates until big sur is out of beta

 

[MCKLMT]

Any news about the full installer?

 

[Madonepro]

Par for the course the last two releases.

Have you thought that maybe with lockdowns and isolations all over the world, due to the COVID Pandemic, and with more people at home, that downloads would logically be slower!

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Any signs at all of Mail.app corruption or data loss? I never did get around to researching enough for an upgrade to Catalina, but didn't feel I was missing much. I really want Big Sur, though, but not if it messes with my 25+ years of meticulously curated mail archives.

No data loss, but Mail.app did - spectacularly - crash on me on the first run after updating to Beta 7.

Just reopened it right away, and it seems fine now.

Edit: Only app I'm having trouble with is Homebrew, but that is as expected as they have said they won't support Big Sur until it's in release...

 

[CrysisDeu]

AirPods auto-switching not working for me on B7 yet on 16''.
Works with my iPhone/iPad

 

[MCKLMT]

I have encountered several freezes and crashes with an external monitor when going out from sleep. Is it solved?

 

[Ricky Smith]

Seems like the SMB issue is fixed.

I came here just for that it’s been driving me nuts if it was just me and an issue with my server share or the beta OS! I chalked it up to a beta issue after going crazy trying to trouble shoot. So can’t wait to update tomorrow and get it working again!

 

[Chris The Bipolarbear]

This is only an update There is no new full installer. Just downloaded the latest one. And it is the same as last time

 

[tsa1]

Big sur still needs some polish, but in my testing it seems better than Catalina in my opinion... Catalina was a disaster.

That's good to hear! I hope Apple is making it more stable than Catalina. For me, Catalina wasn't that bad, but I am on a 2015 15inch MBP.

 

[xmlninja]

Anyone who thinks there will be an "iphone + macbook with apple silicon + big sur release" combined event soooooon?

 

[radamo]

With the new Safari I can't find a way to set the number of "Frequently Visited" that show up on the new tab start page. Did that go away?

 

[tallscot]

No. It's 2020. Even Mail has this part figured out.

- Mark

No, every other mail client had this figured out years ago. Heck, even gmail in your browser has a bin for your attachments so you don’t have to hunt for them in the email.

 

[Azrael9]

I haven't found Catalina to be too bad. But my 2020 iMac is late into the Catalina dev' cycle.

Is Big Sur ready for prime time? Or 'nearly?' I tried the beta. I didn't think it was too bad at all.

Azrael.

 

[ghostface147]

Have you thought that maybe with lockdowns and isolations all over the world, due to the COVID Pandemic, and with more people at home, that downloads would logically be slower!

No because the beta process began in June with no issues. People were at home then too.

 

[antmarobel]

Yes, I know it's a beta and, yes, I know I should send this to Apple.
Look at this: since the first beta (and this one is the 7th!) it is impossible to show data on Menu Bar just because, despite it is unlocked, everything is grayed!

 

[csalm87]

I really want to see Mail get an attachment manager. It’s just nuts how attachments are inline in the messages. And Mail sends images inline instead of as an attachment. Outlook has a bin at the top. It’s superior. Also, Mail’s dark mode works about 70% or the time. It seems arbitrary, but many emails are white. Again; Outlook does this better and has a button to switch between the two modes on the bar.

Also, I want to see Preview beefed up with PDF editing. Acrobat is horrid on the Mac. Preview is fast but it displays PDFs of graphics inaccurately many times. Maybe it’s using an old PDF spec? Update it please.

Finally, I want to see SMB support improved. I’m on a Mac at work on a SMB network with Windows PCs. The Mac has a habit of not releasing files and nobody else can open them unless I log off the network. The files are not open on my Mac, but the Mac is telling everyone else they are. Also, the permissions is a mess. I crwatw a folder on the network but I don’t have permission to rename or delete it seconds later even though I have full read/write permission. Lastly, have Mail have an option to paste network addresses with the Windows path.

I agree with you on the way Mail handles attachments. They look great inline, but I always have issues with Windows users not seeing images I attach even with the "Send Windows Friendly Attachments" on. I have to ZIP the file and they get it. This could be an issue with their server accepting certain files, but I think in part it's due to the way Mail handles this.

I also agree that Acrobat is crap on the Mac. I'm a graphic designer and have an iMac Pro. A more than capable machine, and scrolling and resizing/editing in Acrobat almost always lags. Always has been on a Mac, on all machines I have owned. The experience is smoother on a PC, even on my cheap work PC laptop. It's really a shame that Adobe can't get this figured out.

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Another bug fixed:

Apple Music finally recognises my Yamaha WX-010 speaker over Airport again, lost contact with that when I went from Catalina to Big Sur.

The Podcast app still won't play to it (nor my Denon Ceol Piccolo), but then again it never has, even under Catalina.

 

[Chompineer]

Yes, I know it's a beta and, yes, I know I should send this to Apple.
Look at this: since the first beta (and this one is the 7th!) it is impossible to show data on Menu Bar just because, despite it is unlocked, everything is grayed!

This seems to be fixed on mine, the menu bar clock info has moved to the dock and menu bar menu.

I submitted feedback about this issue last public beta.

 

[strangeengine]

No, every other mail client had this figured out years ago. Heck, even gmail in your browser has a bin for your attachments so you don’t have to hunt for them in the email.

Maybe try Windows 3.1? That sounds more your style.

Meanwhile, I want to control how attachments are presented in my emails.