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There sure are a lot of complainers on here.

For me, on my late '13 MacBook Pro 13", Yosemite has made everything faster and smoother (well, most of the time - scrolling down in the notifications centre with multiple widgets isn't so smooth but whatever). Every application opens with a certain zip and my fans haven't run at over 4000rpm, even when performing multiple strenuous tasks. On Mavericks, watching a HD YouTube clip would seem to crank up the fans to a audible volume.

I can't be certain whether this is down to Yosemite but since I like the UI and the fact that my MacBook is running smoother overall (and haven't reported any major bugs) I really can't complain.



Same here but a mid 2014 13". Ive actually only ever heard the fans come on once on this machine, and been running Yosemite since the day I got it. Not a single major issue or really anything that would make me want to put Mavericks on it.


People get so bent out of shape over the stupidest thing. Like they don't like a few icons so the whole OS must be junk, and they'd rather use an OS from a decade ago. :rolleyes:
 
Then go back to Mavericks and stop using beta software if you're having so many problems. :rolleyes:

Yeah, first time I ever did it, being my 2011 imac is over 3 years old I know not to ever do that again, lol, painfully, but lol.
Gotta say considering how unpredictable it made my iMac it'll be a long time before I install the official release. Just feel like Apple is rushing it out the door with too many bugs, like they Gotta Have it go out on the 16th...

Parasprite: Thanks for the considerate reply, much appreciated
 
I can't wait to see this new dark mode

I can't wait to see this new dark mode. I hope the dark mode is a full OS wide experience, and not just a gingerly sprinkled feature. I've viewed some videos on youtube, and the dark mode looked unfinished. It's in beta though, so I would expect that. Have the revisions been improving/reveling more?
 
Since 95% of people are not getting this issue. You can't call it substandard for that reason either, unless it is dropping on all WIFI network. Then, it would probably be a hardware issue and I'd return it.

Some WIFI's access point behavior is out of spec, either because they got a bug, or something changed over time. How a piece of code that follows standards will react with those third party hardware and networks is often unpredictable. If this way of out of spec reaction is widespread, they can maybe add some expections to the code to manage this. It comes up as a bug fix, but it really isn't; it is really dealing with external broken implementations.

I understand your point. But my iPhone 5 with 8.0.2 can hook to my home wifi with no problem. And my home wifi settings have not changed since I got my iPhone 5. And in #23 post at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1794787/ you can see apple has already admitted the wifi connection issue on iPhone 6.
 
People are so quick to forget Mac OS X Cheetah, Puma and Jaguar relied heavily on transparency many years before Windows Vista and Aero were introduced.

But it didn't feel like it was applied to everything... "just because".

Transparency in iOS 7/8 and OSX 10.10 feels like it was applied to everything "just because" or because they couldn't think of anything else that wasn't too skeuomorphic.

Just like Aero, which always seemed to be "just because".
 
It looks like a mix between Tiger and Windows Vista.

So yeah... 2005 all over again.

Have you heard of OS X Tiger? It was released in 2005 and it was plenty "flat". Just about as "flat" as you could ever imagine.

And Windows Vista introduced transparency in beta versions the same year.

So, again... "modern" is 2005.

Vista wasn't released unttil January 30 2007, so not 2005.
 
If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that. If an OS UI can offend you this much, you need re-evaluate your priorities.

Beta 6 hasn't seemed much different from beta 5. I've had the aforementioned memory leak issue in mail a few times but not too frequent. The slower boot times are also a little irritating but it's so rare that I ever shut any of my machines off that it doesn't bother me. For those that do shut their off though, this would be frustrating.
 
Not sure how many Linux users are out here, but ...

Regarding all of this transparency on the desktop stuff? The Enlightenment desktop for the X Windowing system in Linux was doing a lot of it, back into the early 2000's.

I think that's, actually, the first time I really saw windows you could drag around and see the desktop wallpaper clearly, behind them (or adjust how transparent/opaque each was).

Back then, it was kind of a processor hog though -- so many Linux users went to a lighter-weight desktop GUI alternative. (Not to mention it used to crash a lot back then, at least in earlier versions.)

Still? From what I've seen with Yosemite so far, it's nothing more than what amounts to an incremental change in looks, for the sake of changing it. I'm sure Apple had to do a lot of work to get everything to this point -- but it's not anything ground-breaking.

Personally, I'd like to see some serious thought and effort put into working with the desktop in a new way. Maybe this OS X release wasn't the right time or place for it ... but there have to be some interesting new ways to represent things on the desktop to make it easier to use.

One thing I'd personally like to see is some more "power user" capability in the Finder. For example, make it easy to auto-select a group of files in a folder based on criteria like "all files with 341 someplace in their name", or "all files starting with a g, h, l, or x". This could be handled nicely with some kind of "click to slide in/out" panel that drops in to the side or from the top of a window.
 
If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that. If an OS UI can offend you this much, you need re-evaluate your priorities.

Beta 6 hasn't seemed much different from beta 5. I've had the aforementioned memory leak issue in mail a few times but not too frequent. The slower boot times are also a little irritating but it's so rare that I ever shut any of my machines off that it doesn't bother me. For those that do shut their off though, this would be frustrating.

I agree on the slower boot time and did not report it as a bug, but it's worth noting for people that shut their Macs down daily. You won't like more than TWICE the WAIT to start up daily and should probably stick with Mavericks.

However, I don't understand why people are bitching at people for bitching. I mean, that's the point of the BETA in the first place. If I didn't think Apple would read my filings, I wouldn't have wasted 3 months of my time now would I?

Overall, I really like Yosemite or I would have stopped testing it 2 months ago. Some UI things I don't like, but nothing major.

I only see 2 major issues left...

DISPLAYS system preference panel not recognizing your boot screen

Bluetooth issues with iPhone cables that can brick your Mac until you reboot unless you have wired peripherals handy.
 
Are any of you guys having a memory leak in Mail? I've reported the issue for the last 3 betas and I'm still having the issue. Basically after ~30 minutes, my mail ram usage skyrockets to 64GB and freezes my system. I've searched online to no avail, reset PRAM and re-setup my mail accounts. The only thing that works is force quite and restart my system. Rinse and repeat. :rolleyes:

Yes, for the last three betas. Happened about an hour after installing #6. Can't tell definitively but seems to affect Safari at times as well. I'm a tad concerned that this is still an issue this close to the final final final final GM.
 
Yes, for the last three betas. Happened about an hour after installing #6. Can't tell definitively but seems to affect Safari at times as well. I'm a tad concerned that this is still an issue this close to the final final final final GM.

I have this happen with Safari. Especially if I have a lot of different windows open. It'll just freeze up and then I have to restart. I'm also concerned that this is an issue so close to launch...
 
OK I just read that as "Apple Releases SITH OS..." and thought, "Cool! and evil Star Wars version!"
 
Well installed the latest beta, still slightly jerky even when opening system preferences. Two betas before this no issue - so something has been changed unfortunately. This is on a MacBook Air 2011 / i7 / 4GB RAM / 256GB SSD. Is anyone else have this issue?
 
I can't wait to see this new dark mode. I hope the dark mode is a full OS wide experience, and not just a gingerly sprinkled feature. I've viewed some videos on youtube, and the dark mode looked unfinished. It's in beta though, so I would expect that. Have the revisions been improving/reveling more?

It's just the menu bar and dock, they changed it. Maybe they ran out of time and it'll come in 10.11, or maybe they changed their minds.
 
Regarding all of this transparency on the desktop stuff? The Enlightenment desktop for the X Windowing system in Linux was doing a lot of it, back into the early 2000's.

or OSX cheetah. public beta release: september 13, 2000
 
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