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What does OneDrive and Dropbox have to do with Apple? Or my points regarding Apple that you disagree with in the first place?

Because you are losing the argument you are trying to bring other vendors in to try and support your baseless points.



Everyone has outages. So what? 100% uptime is an impossible feat.
 
faster

The last two updates have really improved the speed on my mid-2009 MacBook Pro. The early builds were painfully slow. Yosemite is actually usable on this thing - I was not sure it would ever be.
 
Upvote if you've been screwed in the past by doing this and actually need your various Macs to get work done so you'll wait a month or two.
I work on my MacBook 8+ hours per day, still installed the 1st Yosemite Public Beta the day it came out. No major problems.
 
I was hoping to hear about the changes/enhancements/bugs in the latest release, but all I've seen is arguing.
 
I'm getting the same problem as a few people here are with updating to Public Beta 6. I'm currently running Public Beta 5, yet I my app store does not see any updates available for beta 6. Has anyone found a solution yet?
 
say all you want about yosemite's modernity or lackthereof, but i for one will maybe - possibly - stop confusing with Mail with Preview once this 'terrible icky awesome amazing Ive's has lost his touch' update is installed. i think this might be the one guys!

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I was hoping to hear about the changes/enhancements/bugs in the latest release, but all I've seen is arguing.

what..? and try it out first??
 
You haven't seen Windows 10 then? That is eye hurtingly flat!

Used it for 20 mins and decided to uninstall. All hail Windows 7. Was that bad. At least it was through my Developer Account so I didn't spend anything on it, well, directly.
 
I think that people in America feel like they just need something to complain about. It's like they have placed themselves as the expert, even though they won't openly say they think they could do better. They might not even think they can do a better job, but they still complain. It's getting old, and fast.
 
You honestly think..

This.

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Looks like this...

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Right **** thats a work of art. Any body who denies how masterfully Yosemite has been put together is putting to shame their own profession; we all should strive to be able to build and UPDATE to an operating system this visually stunning; being that this is all jumping off good ol' Cheetah 10.0---which happened to be released in 2000----which also happened to be the last time a public beta was put forth by apple and it only costed $29.95 (oh :apple:) coincidence that we receive a public beta for Yosemite which has reached 10.10 finally---dare I say i smell 11.0 in their 5 year plan?
 
being that this is all jumping off good ol' Cheetah 10.0---which happened to be released in 2000----which also happened to be the last time a public beta was put forth by apple and it only costed $29.95 (oh :apple:) coincidence that we receive a public beta for Yosemite which has reached 10.10 finally---dare I say i smell 11.0 in their 5 year plan?

a) thanks, i actually wondered where i'd seen apple do the transparency thing before. WELL before vista, which seems to be a popular comparison these days. not that that "[x] did it first!" stuff really concerns me, but it's a kick seeing the clear connection in visual language to yosemite. i've used apple forever, but was never one to update very often back then. must have missed Cheetah entirely(!)

b) how did you get '5 years' out of all of that?
 
Why are people getting so heated about this? I hate the new finder icon, but I'm not going to go all caps rage in the forums over it.
 
My MacBook Pro 13" mid 2010 internet recovery is firing up Yoesemite....
But I can't install it?!?!

Hi
Booting the Mac holding cmd-r with a newly installed unfornmatted SSD and no external drives attached, when choosing to install OS X then the install window for Yosemite appears?!?!?
Clicking "install" promts me for my Apple ID (which I incidentally HAS used to download 10.10 public beta)
But a few moments later I get a message saying something like "the item is currently unavailable"
So I am effectively cut off from installing a fresh OS without an external physical drive containing a bootable partition.


This Machine has never seen a newer OS than 10.7

The only relation this machine can possibly have to Yosemity is that another machine has downloaded 10.10 public beta on the same internet connection...


Is this a soft launch of 10.10 or something?



Booting my 15" Retina 2012 in internet recovery mode serves up Lion as expectet.
"soft launch"? I don't even know what that is, unless you mean your sandwich has too much mayo? ;)

Not sure why that is happening, or what you want to achieve, but, you can make a USB recovery drive for 10.7, just need an 8GB USB stick. You should be able to download 10.7 from App store Purchases tab, to start.

I've run every version of Mac OS X 10.6-10.10b on my mid 2010 macbook pro 13, 10.7 was possibly the worst one, why do you still have that on there? You can update for free to Mavericks 10.9 or (soon) Yosemite (you don't have to put 10.8 on to get 10.9). Mavericks 10.9 was the first one that was almost as fast as 10.6.8 Snow Leopard...and Yosemite might be an improvement, even for these machines.
I miss the ability to click on the Apple icon and see software update on the drop down menu.
yes, I prefer to go right to updates and not have to wait for "featured apps" to load up. I think they did this because they think most people will use automatic updates, but, I've always preferred to do this manually.
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The volume pop-up on iOS used to be something I could tolerate while gaming because I could pretty much see through it. Useful, obvious, not impairing. I chose what to look at. Now it's a big effectively opaque blur with a random color scheme melted into it. It's worse for driving games than Mario Kart squid ink.
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That opaque volume square is really obnoxious (both iOS & OS X), and not just for games...I understand that it follows the rest of the design, but, we NEED to be able to see through it. They should at least move it to the bottom, make it a much smaller bar or something, it is just IN THE WAY.
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#1 If you have more than 1 display, Yosemite is DOA for you. Yosemite will never remember your startup display leaving you scrambling for a 2nd display not turned on or an HDTV remote. I've reported this since Beta 1. Apple has chosen not to fix the bug. This does not happen in Mavericks btw with the exact same displays or even in Leopard. I have tried everything from plugging in/out both displays, zapping PRAM. YOSEMITE IS JUST DOA on THIS and you should probably wait for an update before upgrading if you have a 2nd display.
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I thought it was just me, because of the fact my second display is mini display port to HDMI, so, essentially an HDTV, even though it is actually a monitor (viewsonic), but, this is something I keep hoping they will fix. With Mavericks, it would remember which monitor specific apps/windows were open on...Yosemite forgets. I should give them feedback on this.
So after a few hours with about 4 different web browsers, it seems that whatever memory leak has been fixed. Finally.
I hope so, so far it seems ok, we'll see how it goes.
Are any of you guys having a memory leak in Mail? I've reported the issue for the last 3 betas and I'm still having the issue. Basically after ~30 minutes, my mail ram usage skyrockets to 64GB and freezes my system. I've searched online to no avail, reset PRAM and re-setup my mail accounts. The only thing that works is force quite and restart my system. Rinse and repeat. :rolleyes:
Sometimes running disk utility>repair disk permissions helps...momentarily. I've had problems with mail since sometime in Mavericks. Wish I could dump gmail, might solve this.
You must be one of the very few customers on the planet that have never suffered from one of the multiple iCloud outages in the last 1-2 years.

http://9to5mac.com/2014/08/08/apple-says-icloud-mail-experiencing-outage-for-some-users/

How about something even more recent? Wasn't just email, it was documents etc too:

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/hold-onto-iphones-icloud/

How about the iOS 8 & erased documents bug?

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/29/6869107/ios-8-bug-erases-icloud-drive-documents

It just works, yes?
And the iCloud outages were just the end of the world for you?

No system works 100% of the time, ever have a hard drive crash on you?

...you need to get over yourself and shut up already!
 
Neither of these issues are a problem here. You can keep screaming about issues that only you are having, OR you can do a clean install and stop calling Yosemite DOA. Or perhaps you just really, really like complaining

You are flat out wrong. First off I've Installed Yosemite multiple times, both totally clean and as a Mavericks upgrade, so that's irrelevant to the issue.

The Displays preference panel settings simply will not fix to the correct boot display. Unplugging a display is not a desirable option. This problem does not exist in any version of Mavericks nor any other version of OS X that I have. One of the betas temporarily fixed it and now it's back, so I know I can't be the only person with this problem. Just because you don't have multiple displays doesn't make your opinion better than mine. It just makes you far less capable. If Apple is going to release Macs with the capability to run 1-6 displays, the Displays system pref MUST work properly to boot to the correct screen.

As for the iPhone/Bluetooth IOS 8 issue I mentioned, well that's already been all over the place with the release of IOS 8. I simply added another problem related to it that is still not fixed and that is that plugging in an iPhone with IOS 8 installed can brick your bluetooth on your Mac under Yosemite. It's not totally fixed even with the IOS 8 updates so far and this is not a problem in Mavericks.

Since I've been testing Yosemite since Beta 1, I think I know what I'm talking about. Just because you have limited "needs" or expectations doesn't make you right and me wrong. It just means you know less.
 
I thought it was just me, because of the fact my second display is mini display port to HDMI, so, essentially an HDTV, even though it is actually a monitor (viewsonic), but, this is something I keep hoping they will fix. With Mavericks, it would remember which monitor specific apps/windows were open on...Yosemite forgets. I should give them feedback on this.

Thank You! I knew I wasn't the only one using HDMI to HDTV or mini-display port and the boot display not being the preferred boot display in Yosemite. Please report it. I have multiple times and it's not just my problem alone.

I realize Apple ignores its "pro market" these days far more than years back, but if you're going to pay nearly $5000 for a Mac Pro, you do expect it to know which display to boot to, wouldn't you think? Pro users have all kinds of displays. I shouldn't be forced into booting to one display just because it's mini-display port or HDMI over DVI. It should boot to what I set it to. Period. Mavericks and every other OS X version did. Why not Yosemite?
 
No it isn't. As a graphics designer there are very subtle and drastic differences between os x tiger and OS X Yosemite

Flat design = flat design as far as appearances go.

Major difference is higher quality flat icons and greater display resolutions.
Turn off translucency and it's like rewatching Michael J. Fox in Back to the Future.

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I don't necessarily consider this a Yosemite bug per se, but boot times on a Mac Pro at 3Ghz & 12Gb RAM are excruciatingly slow, slower than Tiger, the Leopards, the Lions, & Mavericks, maybe twice as slow.

I simply assumed that was part of the Beta testing process, but the boot times have not gotten any faster from Beta 1 to 6 in any way. If that's not fixed, I'd probably stick with Mavericks.
 
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