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i updated to pb6 and then my internal drive is lost. i use yosemite on external ssd. i can boot (with option key) on mavericks to my internal drive but when i boot yosemite on my ssd, internal hdd is lost.
 
It's Beta Software... enough said.

At this point... no - it's not beta software.

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I work on my MacBook 8+ hours per day, still installed the 1st Yosemite Public Beta the day it came out.

Probably not something to be boasting about really...

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A guy would have to be very wimpy to get wrapped up in the look of Mac OS###. It is the functionality that is important.

What absolute rubbish. Functionality is important in design but so are ergonomics and aesthetics....
 
I hate the folder color in Yosemite... and the new icons... and the lack of color under the "Go" menu... 10.9 looks much more modern than 10.10... The transparency effects are so... Vista...

Ive & Co have lost their touch.

Without Steve Ive has gone wild...
 
Installed the PB 6 a few minutes ago. Seems fine so far. When PB 5 came out I reported to Apple that I wanted them to bring back the Software Update link in the :apple: menu. I see that they didn't do that. :(
 
OS X Tiger and running older OS X releases....

You honestly think..

This.

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Looks like this...

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There are most certainly similarities to the OS X Tiger Dock but thats where it ends. Personally I welcome the return of the flat Dock as it is minimalistic and functional.

The problems of running older OS X releases

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard continues to have considerable user base on Macs that support it. Being unsupported Snow Leopard is a ticking time bomb. Currently Adobe still offer support for Snow Leopard so there is no issues obtaining updates to the latest version of Flash Player. How long this will last is uncertain.
Safari on Snow Leopard is well out of date and presents a potential security threat. Anyone using Safari on Snow Leopard should immediately change their browser. Firefox is an excellent option and currently supported by Mozilla however once again there is no knowing when this will end.
 
Lost

Booted Mavericks from an external drive, and apparently lost the ability to boot to Yosemite on the internal ssd. Always ends up with the 'incompatible OS' sign ø. Anyone know what might have caused this? Repairing disk permissions didn't seem to help either.
This is on a Mac mini late 2012
 
there's anyone know how to enabled again check for pre-release software update in preferences - app store ?
I'm accidently disabled it, and don't know how to enabled it again.
 
A guy would have to be very wimpy to get wrapped up in the look of Mac OS������. It is the functionality that is important.

So you're calling Johnny Ive and all of the Apple employees wimpy?

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Literally everything in this image looks like you could wrap your fingers around it.

This is the most un-flat OS I've ever seen.

Give me some of what you're smoking, bud. I bet you see a whole lot that isn't actually there. :D

Tiger was as flat as flat can be. Doesn't get flatter... until Yosemite. Wow... how "modern". LOL.
 
I hate the folder color in Yosemite... and the new icons... and the lack of color under the "Go" menu... 10.9 looks much more modern than 10.10... The transparency effects are so... Vista...

Ive & Co have lost their touch.
People are so quick to forget Mac OS X Cheetah, Puma and Jaguar relied heavily on transparency many years before Windows Vista and Aero were introduced.
 
What does OneDrive and Dropbox have to do with Apple? Or my points regarding Apple that you disagree with in the first place?

Because you are losing the argument you are trying to bring other vendors in to try and support your baseless points.

Come on man, when talking about what "substandard" is we have to define "standard" in the first place, which is why "other vendors" have to be involved in the discussion. But I agree with that the iOS 8.x on iPhone 6 IS substandard cause you just can't say that my iPhone 6 keeps dropping wifi on 8.0.2 is standard.
 
Come on man, when talking about what "substandard" is we have to define "standard" in the first place, which is why "other vendors" have to be involved in the discussion. But I agree with that the iOS 8.x on iPhone 6 IS substandard cause you just can't say that my iPhone 6 keeps dropping wifi on 8.0.2 is standard.

Since 95% of people are not getting this issue. You can't call it substandard for that reason either, unless it is dropping on all WIFI network. Then, it would probably be a hardware issue and I'd return it.

Some WIFI's access point behavior is out of spec, either because they got a bug, or something changed over time. How a piece of code that follows standards will react with those third party hardware and networks is often unpredictable. If this way of out of spec reaction is widespread, they can maybe add some expections to the code to manage this. It comes up as a bug fix, but it really isn't; it is really dealing with external broken implementations.
 
Booted Mavericks from an external drive, and apparently lost the ability to boot to Yosemite on the internal ssd. Always ends up with the 'incompatible OS' sign ø. Anyone know what might have caused this? Repairing disk permissions didn't seem to help either.
This is on a Mac mini late 2012

Yosemite seems to have some problems with boot partitions and multiple drives, at least on some Mac minis. My system boots Mavericks from internal drive and Yosemite and a separate Mavericks partition from external drives. Yosemite updates lose track of which partition to use in some cases.

Apple tried to tell me this was not possible, until I sent them iPhone photos of the screens. Now they want details...
 
TBH.... what has really changed since the first release of OS X?

Yes, it looks prettier, has more features, but in no way has any desktop OS had a revolution.
Nothing like "mobile phone to smartphone".

In short:
Of course, OS X Yosemite looks more "modern", but it is not revolutionary.

Really? 15 years ago, I don't think we'd thought it was possible to answer the phone on our laptops, or use hand off tasks between screens as seen in Avatar.

No, we're not at a point where we're using 3D holographic inputs yet, but OS X is definitely a better assistant today than it was even just a few years ago. I didn't even like OS X 15 years ago.
 
Installed the PB 6 a few minutes ago. Seems fine so far. When PB 5 came out I reported to Apple that I wanted them to bring back the Software Update link in the :apple: menu. I see that they didn't do that. :(

Honestly I have used the About this Mac > Software Update, route as it was a good way to remind me of what system I was on :eek: .
 
Honestly I have used the About this Mac > Software Update, route as it was a good way to remind me of what system I was on :eek: .

That's a few extra clicks to get to Software Update!

Now there is one extra click to get there via the :apple: menu. They must want to flaunt the MAS to you before you get to SU in case there is an app they can get you to buy.
 
There sure are a lot of complainers on here.

For me, on my late '13 MacBook Pro 13", Yosemite has made everything faster and smoother (well, most of the time - scrolling down in the notifications centre with multiple widgets isn't so smooth but whatever). Every application opens with a certain zip and my fans haven't run at over 4000rpm, even when performing multiple strenuous tasks. On Mavericks, watching a HD YouTube clip would seem to crank up the fans to a audible volume.

I can't be certain whether this is down to Yosemite but since I like the UI and the fact that my MacBook is running smoother overall (and haven't reported any major bugs) I really can't complain.
 
That's a few extra clicks to get to Software Update!

Now there is one extra click to get there via the :apple: menu. They must want to flaunt the MAS to you before you get to SU in case there is an app they can get you to buy.

Well it's only one extra click ;) . But I get your point.

I feel the Apple Menu could have quite a few more options in it. Honestly I wish it was configurable for power users, similar to how we can move things around in the dock, or Home screens on our iOS devices.
 
I have installed Yosemite since the public beta 4, in two machines, a MacBook pro retina 15" late 2013, and an iMac mid 2011, both of which have 16Gbytes of RAM. I have noticed a major improvement over the fluidity of my iMac, and a decent improvement on my mbp.

I have ran some tests, and saw that it's partly because of how the system treats disk resources. My HDD performs faster in everyday usage in my iMac. It's not faster in absolute terms, but at least now I don't wait 5 seconds to open a folder in my internal HDD when all of my external disks (which are also HDD) have gone to sleep from inactivity.

Overall, I am personally quite impressed by the stability of the system, even if it is still in beta.
 
Well it's only one extra click ;) . But I get your point.

I feel the Apple Menu could have quite a few more options in it. Honestly I wish it was configurable for power users, similar to how we can move things around in the dock, or Home screens on our iOS devices.

Yeah, I'm not really complaining about it too much. But it is silly to remove functionality for what appears to be no apparent reason. It isn't like the :apple: menu is clogged up with stuff and they want to clean it up - there isn't much there at all.
 
Since 95% of people are not getting this issue. You can't call it substandard for that reason either, unless it is dropping on all WIFI network. Then, it would probably be a hardware issue and I'd return it.

Some WIFI's access point behavior is out of spec, either because they got a bug, or something changed over time. How a piece of code that follows standards will react with those third party hardware and networks is often unpredictable. If this way of out of spec reaction is widespread, they can maybe add some expections to the code to manage this. It comes up as a bug fix, but it really isn't; it is really dealing with external broken implementations.


I see wifi issues posted here all the time, and Ive never had an Apple product struggle to connect to or maintain a connection to a WAP. Don't know what sort of network these people are trying to connect to or if theres some other issue going on but its just never happened for me or anyone else I know. Weird.
 
sudo softwareupdate -i -a -m

Updates with no mouse clicks and runs in the background with no need to see the app store the best part is there is no nag window on the top right asking if you'd like to restart/install updates/delay etc.
 
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