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beerfish89

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Odd! Rene Ritchie says it doesn’t work on X...

https://twitter.com/reneritchie/status/1085599654639734788

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He is wrong. Probably so dead that the accessory didn't communicate with his phone
 

Cryates

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I would never, ever follow Ritchie. And to be on point for this topic, he was wrong. Others are posting shots of it working on their X.
I mean, personal dislikes of him aside, he showed a picture that it was not working. He's not going to put his reputation on the line unless he's confident his doesn't work.
 
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I mean, personal dislikes of him aside, he showed a picture that is was not working. He's not going to put his reputation on the line unless he's confident his doesn't work.
Agree he is still a smart guy regardless if you like his personality or not.

And a $129 1st party battery that cannot even work without giving an error in iOS is pretty bad if that is the only issue with his.
 

iGeneo

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Agree he is still a smart guy regardless if you like his personality or not.

And a $129 1st party battery that cannot even work without giving an error in iOS is pretty bad if that is the only issue with his.

He's using it on an X, while it may work or not work, Apple never listed it as compatible with the X.
 

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He's using it on an X, while it may work or not work, Apple never listed it as compatible with the X.

Understood but other than software limited there is no reason it theoretically should not work like any other lightning cable plugged in

There appears to be some speculation on idownloadblog that it only works in the 12.1.3 beta on the X is why and Ritchie probably is not running it on that device.
 

G5isAlive

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Battery case is not that high tech. Battery itself aren’t even worth much. The Apple Battrty Case’s battery is probably from one of Chinese supplier the same Amazon battery case use.

I have had buy some battery case from Amazon, they work just expected.




So you are saying battery case from Amazon will make you phone unable to make call? Is that what you saying?
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I have no problem put these 50 dollar Amazon battrty case. Why not? It is not like battery cases are such high tech thing m.

It's well accepted that antenna design is crucial to making and receiving calls. Remember 'you're holding it wrong?' So yes, cheaper cases that both cover antennas with battery, and do NOT include passive antennas to boost signal, (both of which Apple incorporates in their design) WILL impact the ability of the phone to make calls.

Battery cases are higher tech than you are acknowledging. Its not simply slapping a battery on the back. Its integrating the software, its the elimination of switches to direct which power you run off of, its not blocking antennas, it is the incorporation of passive antennas, its wireless charging, its not interfering with the lightening port, and its making it easy to take on and off in a as needed basis.
 

iGeneo

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Understood but other than software limited there is no reason it theoretically should not work like any other lightning cable plugged in

There appears to be some speculation on idownloadblog that it only works in the 12.1.3 beta on the X is why and Ritchie probably is not running it on that device.

From RR's Twitter:
"Update: iOS 12.1.2 DID NOT work for me with iOS XS case. iOS 12.1.13 DOES work for me"
(of course he means 12.1.3)
 
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manu chao

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They literally just stick a battery on the back of a case. I'm sure they could modify the design of the battery so it fits the entire length of the case.
And cover the camera? And who knows what antennas are behind the top of the back of the iPhone Xs that a battery going right to the top might interfere with.
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That's only $10 more than the Mophie ones that are coming out, and these have wireless charging. Why is $129 so absurd?
Anything that increases the price, even if only by a small amount from the product predecessor is seen by some as unacceptable.
 

Yojimbo007

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A slight improvement in the hump’s positioning and width has made a huge difference in the estetics.
Looks much better than the previouse Igore battery case.
 

Abazigal

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Rather than carrying this monster all day - I'll sit around 20 minutes with a $12 charging brick
But I have to admit being a donglemania-victim...

Different use cases ultimately.

With a battery case, I imagine a possible scenario where you keep the phone in your pocket and the case will keep it topped off while you go about your daily business.

Then when you no longer need the case (like when it has been expended), you can remove it and still have a (relatively) thinner and lighter phone.

Unlike a phone with a larger battery (which in turn makes it thicker and heavier to carry around). I can’t strip away half the battery if I suddenly decide I don’t need that much juice.

The idea here is to not have to think about managing the charging of your phone. It just works in the background.
 
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Bacillus

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Different use cases ultimately.
With a battery case, I imagine a possible scenario where you keep the phone in your pocket and the case will keep it topped off while you go about your daily business.
Then when you no longer need the case (like when it has been expended), you can remove it and still have a (relatively) thinner and lighter phone.
Unlike a phone with a larger battery (which in turn makes it thicker and heavier to carry around). I can’t strip away half the battery if I suddenly decide I don’t need that much juice.
The idea here is to not have to think about managing the charging of your phone. It just works in the background.
It may have occurred to you that a removable battery would match any use (and phone-) case ?
Except for being The Forbidden Fruitbag in that (almost expired) Cookette Bible
 
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Abazigal

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It might have occurred to you that a removable battery would match any use (and phone-) case ?
Except being The Forbidden Fruit in the (expired) Cookette Bible

Sure. Just like how a wireless keyboard can work with any computer, but I ultimately settled on the Smart Keyboard for my iPad Pro because it offered the best integrated solution. I am aware of what that means for me - not least that it lives and dies by my tablet, which I am sure will be an issue when it’s time to upgrade down the road. But for now, it’s the most convenient package I have found thus far, and I am prepared to hang on to my current iPad for a minimum of three years.

If you see yourself holding on to your existing phone for 2-3 years at least, it’s not that bad an idea to invest in dedicated accessories that can augment your existing user experience in a way that more generic accessories never can.

A bit more convenience here. A little less annoyance there. It quickly adds up over time.
 
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kevink2

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Quick search on Amazon. Lots of battery case below 50 bucks. Yes, both this Apple battery case and Mophie one are overpriced.

I've not had good long term reliability with battery cases. The Apple one for the iPhone 6, I had it possibly 1 1/2 years. When I gave my phone away, I gave the battery case too. It stopped working shortly thereafter.

I bought a 3rd party one for my 7+. I noticed a few months later when I went to use it again that the plug that goes into the bottom of the phone broke off.

The current one worked on my vacation, but for best results it was best to charge it separately than charging it and my phone at one time. I noticed one day that only one of the devices had charged.
 

flygbuss

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Different use cases ultimately.

With a battery case, I imagine a possible scenario where you keep the phone in your pocket and the case will keep it topped off while you go about your daily business.

Then when you no longer need the case (like when it has been expended), you can remove it and still have a (relatively) thinner and lighter phone.

Unlike a phone with a larger battery (which in turn makes it thicker and heavier to carry around). I can’t strip away half the battery if I suddenly decide I don’t need that much juice.

The idea here is to not have to think about managing the charging of your phone. It just works in the background.

Exactly.

I usually use my normal iPhone 7 case but when I have to go abroad for work, I just switch cases and don't have to worry about running out of battery during the trip at all.
Before that I carried an external battery pack with me, but that felt much more inconvenient.
(Sitting in the shuttle bus, groping for the battery and the cable in the backpack and then finally trying to fit battery and phone into my pocket when I have to get off the bus..)

It took a while before I finally ordered it, the old smart battery case ain't no bargain either.
Now I'm really glad because it definitely works as advertised and I don't have to think about managing the charging.
 

kevink2

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I do agree. I'd rather carry a power bank of some sort in the bag just for emergencies, than make the phone bigger forever. Learnt this after owning a battery case. It made my iphone 6 unwieldy... I can't imagine how un-ergonomic the max phones will become with these on.

The downside of the separate battery is, for those times you need it like on vacation, it is an additional device to carry and keep charged. But for emergency use that is why I bought an external battery.
 

Bacillus

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A slight improvement in the hump’s positioning and width has made a huge difference in the estetics.
Looks much better than the previouse Igore battery case.

Hhmpff, meticulous form factor advancement.
But the competition is getting very near:

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