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It’s still hilarious to me that this monitor is part of the iOS family. It makes sense for Apple, I get it. Why use a different SoC and firmware set when you already have one. Just blows my mind that a monitor has a full SoC and runs iOS.

iOS is based on macOS - why would the display need to run the full macOS? It’s just a display, camera, and speakers. iOS is more than capable of handling this. MacOS would be way too much bloat and 95% of it would go unused just taking up storage.
 
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iOS is based on macOS - why would the display need to run the full macOS? It’s just a display, camera, and speakers. iOS is more than capable of handling this. MacOS would be way too much bloat and 95% of it would go unused just taking up storage.
I think you may have misinterpreted the original poster’s point—or perhaps I have.

I took the post to mean that it’s wild that a monitor has an SoC and an OS to run at all—not that it should be running macOS in lieu of iOS.

How many monitors in your lifetime have you used that had their own SoC + OS—of any kind—installed?
 
I think you may have misinterpreted the original poster’s point—or perhaps I have.

I took the post to mean that it’s wild that a monitor has an SoC and an OS to run at all—not that it should be running macOS in lieu of iOS.

How many monitors in your lifetime have you used that had their own SoC + OS—of any kind—installed?
We've gotten to the point where SoCs are so cheap and plentiful that companies like Apple can just use them in their products even if they're VASTLY overpowered for the job.

The SoC in the Studio Display doesn't do much. It doesn't have to. But it was likely less expensive for Apple to throw that in, than to implement something using an off the shelf microcontroller which probably wouldn't work as well.
 
It’s weird that you have to update your monitor
If you think that's weird... wait till you have to update your MagSafe Charging Cable. That's weirder...😣

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I just wish it would power down completely when USB-C is unplugged from the computer. It does so properly if you power down the Macbook, but as soon as you unplug the cable everything on the downstream USB bus starts getting power again.

Yeah, if I leave the Mac sleeping the display is still ‘on’, if I leave anything in the ports on the back of the display it remains ‘on’ even if disconnected from the Mac. The only way to sleep the display properly is to totally unplug everything. I have a laptop tho so I don’t know if this practice is the same with a Mini or Studio.
 
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I think you may have misinterpreted the original poster’s point—or perhaps I have.

I took the post to mean that it’s wild that a monitor has an SoC and an OS to run at all—not that it should be running macOS in lieu of iOS.

How many monitors in your lifetime have you used that had their own SoC + OS—of any kind—installed?
Every single monitor has a SoC and operating system. How would they work if they didn't?!
 
Yeah, if I leave the Mac sleeping the display is still ‘on’, if I leave anything in the ports on the back of the display it remains ‘on’ even if disconnected from the Mac. The only way to sleep the display properly is to totally unplug everything. I have a laptop tho so I don’t know if this practice is the same with a Mini or Studio.
How do you come to the conclusion that it is still on? The display is off, the ports are still powered through. This is how it should work. The usb ports are on low power if I remember correctly.
So where exactly is the issue?
 
Why the need to say something like that. I assume you now fear upgrades on every Apple product/software. How can you feel that way and use Apple stuff? It's absurd and makes someone look very unwise. If Apple were really this bad, no one would use their products. And its simply not true. Please stop spreading Apple hate. It's outgrown its welcome and most people are tired of it. Thanks.
I think one must be able to sometimes question the claim that ”Apple makes both the hardware and the software, therefore things work so much better than if using tech from other vendors”, because sometimes things behave a bit glitchy considering exactly that.

That doesn't mean I think Apple are never able to a good job with their hardware and software.
 
pretty much the same as you do your os to dev betas...


Saying stuff like this without showing why, only perpetuates the same false feelings for others making the issue seem larger than it actually is. Take the AirPods recent noise cancellation chagne. 2 updates ago, it got worse likely to avoid patent problems they are having with, the last update however has reimplemted a new form of noise cancellation that is up to par with the previous version. I ride a subway 1 hour to and from work, and there's a stretch of it that has a high pitched screeching noise which in the most recent version is back to being muffled in the background.
That patent thing was already debunked, the company behind it is suing EVERYBODY including Amazon, Google, Samsung, Apple etc. not for ANC, but for beamforming mics and smart speaker things.

The whole "Apple nerfed my ANC!!!11!" brigade isn't anything new or exclusive to AirPods, it has happened to Sony and Bose too. Bose even did a VERY thorough investigation going as far as to visit people's homes and found nothing wrong with the firmware, which was so valiantly condemned as thrashing the ANC. Clean your buds, people.

Of course I'm not saying Apple has done nothing wrong with their firmware (*cough* 2C54), but to think they go out of their way to intentionally make ANC worse out of malicious intent is kinda ridiculous.
 
It’s still hilarious to me that this monitor is part of the iOS family. It makes sense for Apple, I get it. Why use a different SoC and firmware set when you already have one. Just blows my mind that a monitor has a full SoC and runs iOS.
So in a few years the monitor will become unsupported because the "firmware" will not be updated anymore...? hmm
 
The hilarious part of this is that the display has 64 GB of internal storage, storage that isn’t used for anything, and is more than sufficient to run macOS.

If they made the StudioDisplay into severely underpowered iMac it would be a PR disaster.

Just think about all the people whining about having only 8/256GB in a $599 MacMini and how the would react to a $1599 iMac with just 4(?)/64GB running fewer outdated cores with limited I/O.

Heck thats most likely the reason why the did not put anything M1 into it and market as an iMac, whatever would have worked would have been seen as bad value, while it just being a screen with even worse value is a much smaller issue.
 
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