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Apple Releases the MacBook Pro
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What a bunch of retards everyone is.. I swear.. first everyone waits for the new powerbook and they're like "It better be dual core or else i'll kidnap steve job's momma".. now when they release it.. everyone says its not good enough. Not good enough??
Firewire will be dead.. it sucks for the real pro users.. firewire drives run at what? 7200 rpm? Thats utter crap! We need atleast 10,000 rpm or 15,000 rpm drives. I was amazed that instead of a PC card, they included a Express /34 card.. fantastic! That's preparing for the future.. I'll be the first one to buy a Express /34 SCSI adapter so I can use my scsi drives with the macbook.
And then they do all these comparisons with the Acer.. geez.. for a $500 difference, yes I'll go with the macbook. I prefer the OS (my windows laptop was running flawlessly for 6 months.. and 3 days ago it just crashed.. some kind of system error.. and i don't even use it to go online..so there's no spyware or anything!)
A beautiful laptop, a powerful OS, additional little features like the magnetic power adapter bit, the isight built in, backlit keyboard, Express /34 (a BIG plus for pros) .. you're telling me you would want the Acer over the macbook? For 500 bucks? When you do buy the Acer, don't forget to spend money routinely on updates.. on anti-virus software, backups, etc. etc.
The dual layer drive support is not there because, dual layer is not THAT popular. Dual layer dvds are expensive and slow.. I'd rather buy a hard drive for backup than have a stack of dual layer DVDs.. the next MB will have a Blue Ray DVD drive (if its standard by then) Yes, they could have included a dual layer drive to appease the whiners, but I don't find it necessary.
I figure there will always be people who will never be satisfied and will keep praying and waiting for Rev. A,B,C,D and so on.. What do you want? a Quad core 15.5 ghz laptop? Honestly, what do you whiners need that power for?
What a bunch of retards everyone is.. I swear.. first everyone waits for the new powerbook and they're like "It better be dual core or else i'll kidnap steve job's momma".. now when they release it.. everyone says its not good enough. Not good enough??
Firewire will be dead.. it sucks for the real pro users.. firewire drives run at what? 7200 rpm? Thats utter crap! We need atleast 10,000 rpm or 15,000 rpm drives. I was amazed that instead of a PC card, they included a Express /34 card.. fantastic! That's preparing for the future.. I'll be the first one to buy a Express /34 SCSI adapter so I can use my scsi drives with the macbook.
And then they do all these comparisons with the Acer.. geez.. for a $500 difference, yes I'll go with the macbook. I prefer the OS (my windows laptop was running flawlessly for 6 months.. and 3 days ago it just crashed.. some kind of system error.. and i don't even use it to go online..so there's no spyware or anything!)
A beautiful laptop, a powerful OS, additional little features like the magnetic power adapter bit, the isight built in, backlit keyboard, Express /34 (a BIG plus for pros) .. you're telling me you would want the Acer over the macbook? For 500 bucks? When you do buy the Acer, don't forget to spend money routinely on updates.. on anti-virus software, backups, etc. etc.
The dual layer drive support is not there because, dual layer is not THAT popular. Dual layer dvds are expensive and slow.. I'd rather buy a hard drive for backup than have a stack of dual layer DVDs.. the next MB will have a Blue Ray DVD drive (if its standard by then) Yes, they could have included a dual layer drive to appease the whiners, but I don't find it necessary.
I figure there will always be people who will never be satisfied and will keep praying and waiting for Rev. A,B,C,D and so on.. What do you want? a Quad core 15.5 ghz laptop? Honestly, what do you whiners need that power for?
MacNut said:
Correction. Intel won't support something that the industry is not catching on to. Remember, it's an Intel mobo that's in the PB, err... MBP, now. USB is Intel's creation. That's probably why it got left out.
At least they could have put 2 more USB ports on there.
They could have given us an extra USB port to make up for the lack of FW800. Intel doesn't have a chipset for FW800, and that is why we lost it.
farewell Powerbook, we barely knew ye.
MacBook? hmm, Mary Jane have a say in the name? eh, this should be interesting, so i'm saving my pennies for a VoodooPC AMD64 portable! now that the Intel edition of Mac OS X is out, i have a choice!
i will admit, the iSight cam to the MacBook was nice touch, but it makes my Powerbook 15" 1.5Ghz look better in terms of connectivity and options. anything is better than a G4. a G5 on the other hand, we had it good
MacBook? hmm, Mary Jane have a say in the name? eh, this should be interesting, so i'm saving my pennies for a VoodooPC AMD64 portable! now that the Intel edition of Mac OS X is out, i have a choice!
i will admit, the iSight cam to the MacBook was nice touch, but it makes my Powerbook 15" 1.5Ghz look better in terms of connectivity and options. anything is better than a G4. a G5 on the other hand, we had it good
Krevnik said:No trade-offs on a 12 hour charge? Wow, you aren't asking for much, are ya, just some bending of the laws of physics.
Smaller/Lighter, Faster, Longer Battery. Pick any 2, but the third will suffer horribly.
Well, there is the rumored flash drive-equipped hard drive. Adding, say, one gigabyte of flash memory to buffer between the drive and the Mac ought to drastically increase battery life for some applications (such as browsing the web) by keeping the hard drive from having to spin up until more than one gigabyte of data have been written.
Jerry
Does the MacBook Pro satisfy everyone? No
Does the MacBook Pro bring the Apple laptop back to its glory days? Yes
This is just the first of many to be released Intel based products. Although I'm on the fencing of buying a Macbook Pro to replace my 15" Powerbook, Apple has delivered a great product! Kudos to the Apple and Intel teams.
What would really put me over the edge to buy one is VMWare or some other virtualization software so I can run some Windows only apps I need at work. I don't want dual booting, I want to run Windows apps inside windows on my OS X desktop. Once this is done the MacBook is a done deal and I can turn in my Dell Latitude piece of crap.
cheers, scott.
Does the MacBook Pro bring the Apple laptop back to its glory days? Yes
This is just the first of many to be released Intel based products. Although I'm on the fencing of buying a Macbook Pro to replace my 15" Powerbook, Apple has delivered a great product! Kudos to the Apple and Intel teams.
What would really put me over the edge to buy one is VMWare or some other virtualization software so I can run some Windows only apps I need at work. I don't want dual booting, I want to run Windows apps inside windows on my OS X desktop. Once this is done the MacBook is a done deal and I can turn in my Dell Latitude piece of crap.
cheers, scott.
BRLawyer said:
I didn't see the keynote, and it isn't mentioned in the tech specs. Take a look for yourself: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/whatsinside.html
Edit: You're right - it's mentioned on the design page (http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/design.html) so they must have forgotten to include it on the tech specs page.
BRLawyer said:
I agree, but at the moment there are a lot of PC cards available and not many ExpressCards! Not much use having a slot with nothing to put in it...
BRLawyer said:
FW800 + FW400 = 2 ports
FW400 = 1 port
We've lost a FireWire port. So now we need a FireWire hub, more cables and another power supply to use an external hard drive and camcorder at the same time. For me that was always a niggle with the older PowerBooks.
BRLawyer said:
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. For me though, S-Video/composite output is great for TV display, and with PhotoShop and Final Cut Express I need all the screen "real estate" I can get, so losing 122,400 pixels does make a difference!
BRLawyer said:
I agree it's unique in some respects, but there's a huge amount of competition which is now more directly comparable. Apple will have to work much harder to compete from now on.
BRLawyer said:
There's no doubting that faster is better, but in daily usage it's the small things that make the difference between a good machine and a truly great one.
Originally Posted by speedemonV12
so will it be able to run windows or not?
yes, you can install a clean version of Windows on your Intel Mac. sounds like something Gil did about a decade ago, the PC compatible Mac with that gaming card from Orange Micro.
so will it be able to run windows or not?
yes, you can install a clean version of Windows on your Intel Mac. sounds like something Gil did about a decade ago, the PC compatible Mac with that gaming card from Orange Micro.
Besides, I think the UK prices are with VAT included. I too was upset about the price difference between US and abroad, until I realized when you added tax to the US price the difference wasnt that much to talk about.Stella said:
iN8 said:
second that ( maybe the Macbook [ not pro ] rev.B will have these specs then ? ...looking forward to September Apple Show in Paris...); this MacBook Pro is rushed out for the benefit of stock, marketing, fans...
...it's not a bad machine, but an old winning design with ( much due ) revamped specs.
Price is Apple typical, and we'll see how it fares with PC laptops on same HD, and the whole hacking OSX issue...
Looks nice, not excellent; hopefully VPC VMware or others will come out quickly with a solution to run windows apps native and we'll have switchers galore !
Diatribe said:
this is exactly why you wait until rev 2. i've got another year on my powerbook G4 so that's when i'm shooting for. hopefully they'll really have something that raises hell(not that this doesn't) by then. now that i think of it, it's possible apple 'left' features off the intel probook for the sole purpose of maintaining the sellability of the powerbooks (fw800, dual layer dvd burner, etc). which kinda makes sense...
nostrum said:MacBook, what an absolutely awful name. It just doesn't trip off your tongue like Powerbook or iBook.
I can almost hear people asking me if I want fries with it.
But only if you buy the 17" (Big)MacBook Pro though.
Maybe they'll do a tie in with McDonalds or something.
Retarded Whiners!
I can only agree with EVERYTHING you said above...how many ****ING RETARDS we have here? Drop this forum, whiners!
Modem - how many of you still use it? how many hotels still use it? BUZZ OFF!
FW800 - the market adoption is close to ZERO, and FW400 is still THERE! Besides, as many people already said, the best solution for FW is DAISY-CHAIN!
Lower Resolution - YOU LOST 300 PIXELS AND GOT A LOT MORE BRIGHTNESS, DAMNED! WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? YOU ALWAYS COMPLAINED ABOUT "XBrite", so what now?
DL RW - DL discs ARE expensive and hard to find...NO NEED FOR THAT right now!
ALL OTHER PERKS are there with a good price, and there is NOTHING to complain about, NOTABLY speed and battery, thinner design, backlit keyboard, sudden motion sensor and everything ELSE! GET REAL!
And concerning the Acer "dude", go get it roger! Acer sucks for laptops, and it also includes Windows XP for ya! Apple is, above all, ABOUT SOFTWARE!
SJ, congrats for another GREAT keynote! GO APPLE!
Music_Producer said:
I can only agree with EVERYTHING you said above...how many ****ING RETARDS we have here? Drop this forum, whiners!
Modem - how many of you still use it? how many hotels still use it? BUZZ OFF!
FW800 - the market adoption is close to ZERO, and FW400 is still THERE! Besides, as many people already said, the best solution for FW is DAISY-CHAIN!
Lower Resolution - YOU LOST 300 PIXELS AND GOT A LOT MORE BRIGHTNESS, DAMNED! WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? YOU ALWAYS COMPLAINED ABOUT "XBrite", so what now?
DL RW - DL discs ARE expensive and hard to find...NO NEED FOR THAT right now!
ALL OTHER PERKS are there with a good price, and there is NOTHING to complain about, NOTABLY speed and battery, thinner design, backlit keyboard, sudden motion sensor and everything ELSE! GET REAL!
And concerning the Acer "dude", go get it roger! Acer sucks for laptops, and it also includes Windows XP for ya! Apple is, above all, ABOUT SOFTWARE!
SJ, congrats for another GREAT keynote! GO APPLE!
I would have liked FireWire400 x 2 ports to make up for the missing data port they robbed us of. Perhaps Rev B will bring more to the table, and an option to ditch the camera in favor of more pixels on the screen.
Music_Producer said:
THANKS !
...quite a few points i wasn't taking in due consideration; raises my vote for this MacBook Pro release from nice to solid !
ding ding ding...
We have a winner. This is an update stockholders and spec junkies will love but people who travel with and use Powerbooks on a daily basis aren't going to be too excited about.
Turn the clock down on the dualCore if need be, but give us a cooler, lighter, more battery friendly laptop.
Until then, I have no reason to part ways with my 12" Powerbook.
kenstee said:
We have a winner. This is an update stockholders and spec junkies will love but people who travel with and use Powerbooks on a daily basis aren't going to be too excited about.
Turn the clock down on the dualCore if need be, but give us a cooler, lighter, more battery friendly laptop.
Until then, I have no reason to part ways with my 12" Powerbook.
I'm still glad I got my 12'' PB. For the size of that thing compared to the "power" I couldn't be happier.
Need to get me some RAM. Better tomorrow than later.
I'm really looking forward to a nice 12'' or 13'' MacBook Pro to the end of the year. When every pro-app is binary and the "beta-testers" got the bugs out of the intel-machines. Though I think they won't have that many bugs.
Hope we get some independent benchmarks soon.
Need to get me some RAM. Better tomorrow than later.
I'm really looking forward to a nice 12'' or 13'' MacBook Pro to the end of the year. When every pro-app is binary and the "beta-testers" got the bugs out of the intel-machines. Though I think they won't have that many bugs.
Hope we get some independent benchmarks soon.
New alert from appleinsider...
This just in, As the Macworld expo draws to a close, programming geeks and apple elite designers are hard at work on the new Macbook "revised"..what will it be you may wonder, well it's due out just in time for xmas 2006, october 4 2006 to be exact. This 'revised" Macbook will not have a single layer dvd burner, not a double layer dvd burner, but a BLUE RAY dvd burner capable of holding 50 gb per disc. Also you will notice the sleek 15.3 inch screen with the glossy display capable of showing high def to the max.. In addition, the new macbook revised will be only 3.5 pounds using a composite material. In addition, the Firewire 800 port is standard as to appease the rankled apple aficionados and creative types who mostly use Apple laptops anyway...The price will be 1799 dollars, and don't forget this comes standard with a 300gb hard drive hahahah.
This just in, As the Macworld expo draws to a close, programming geeks and apple elite designers are hard at work on the new Macbook "revised"..what will it be you may wonder, well it's due out just in time for xmas 2006, october 4 2006 to be exact. This 'revised" Macbook will not have a single layer dvd burner, not a double layer dvd burner, but a BLUE RAY dvd burner capable of holding 50 gb per disc. Also you will notice the sleek 15.3 inch screen with the glossy display capable of showing high def to the max.. In addition, the new macbook revised will be only 3.5 pounds using a composite material. In addition, the Firewire 800 port is standard as to appease the rankled apple aficionados and creative types who mostly use Apple laptops anyway...The price will be 1799 dollars, and don't forget this comes standard with a 300gb hard drive hahahah.
Diatribe said:Yeah, I am definitely going to wait until next year same time when I can get my Macbook preloaded with Leopard and iLife '07, a 160GB HD, a Merom proc, a Blu-Ray burner, etc.....
What's up with the drive in general? 4x burner? What happend to the 8x burner?
Well, by then you'll be saying I'll just wait until next year when they have iLife '08 and Mac OSX Elephant(yeah..right) and they have the new 5 GHz quad-core processor. Technology will always be changing and in the visible future. At some point you have to decide that now is the time you will buy even though something better is on the horizon.
I just ordered my very first mac, an Intel Powerbook(not going to call it a MacBook Pro) with the Sims 2 along with the University expansion. I'll have t get more software when I get it and I'm still waiting for a wireless MM! I can't wait. Any ideas of what part of February it will ship?
"the fastest notebook ever"
This is NOT the fastest notebook ever, and I am amazed that everybody is quoting that sales pitch as if it were gospel. It would take about a 30-second Google search to find faster laptops from VoodooPC or Alienware or Falcon Northwest or HP, not to mention the other Yonah laptops that other companies have already released at higher clockspeeds than the new "Macbook"! The Macbook seems to max out at 1.83GHz (looking on Apple's website), while the ThinkPad T60 goes to 2.13GHz, and various Asus models go to 2GHz DualCore Yonah.
HOW can everybody be this gullible? I admit that Apple makes great gear - I have a PowerBook, an iPod Nano, and a Mac Mini and love them - but this is an outright LIE. Stop quoting it without thinking. You're doing yourselves a disservice by being gullible and unwise shoppers. It's the fastest Mac Laptop ever, but Jobs should believe in his product enough not to have to lie to sell it. They will sell themselves. And I'm amazed that every Mac fan touts Apple as being so much more ethical than Microsoft, but they let stuff like this slide. Lying is lying. And if we don't hold Apple responsible with at least a "p.s. Apple shouldn't lie" at the bottom of our rabid worshipping posts, who will?
Ten Seconds it took:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2702
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2711
And I'm not even going to try to explain Rosetta's speed hit to you people, since 90% of you don't want to hear it anyway.
I can't believe that I'm the voice of frickin' reason around here.
This is NOT the fastest notebook ever, and I am amazed that everybody is quoting that sales pitch as if it were gospel. It would take about a 30-second Google search to find faster laptops from VoodooPC or Alienware or Falcon Northwest or HP, not to mention the other Yonah laptops that other companies have already released at higher clockspeeds than the new "Macbook"! The Macbook seems to max out at 1.83GHz (looking on Apple's website), while the ThinkPad T60 goes to 2.13GHz, and various Asus models go to 2GHz DualCore Yonah.
HOW can everybody be this gullible? I admit that Apple makes great gear - I have a PowerBook, an iPod Nano, and a Mac Mini and love them - but this is an outright LIE. Stop quoting it without thinking. You're doing yourselves a disservice by being gullible and unwise shoppers. It's the fastest Mac Laptop ever, but Jobs should believe in his product enough not to have to lie to sell it. They will sell themselves. And I'm amazed that every Mac fan touts Apple as being so much more ethical than Microsoft, but they let stuff like this slide. Lying is lying. And if we don't hold Apple responsible with at least a "p.s. Apple shouldn't lie" at the bottom of our rabid worshipping posts, who will?
Ten Seconds it took:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2702
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2711
And I'm not even going to try to explain Rosetta's speed hit to you people, since 90% of you don't want to hear it anyway.
I can't believe that I'm the voice of frickin' reason around here.
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