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Apple Releases Updated iMac Models With 21.5- and 27-Inch LED Screens
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Imagine you turn your screen 90°. Then imagine one such screen to the left and one to the right but a little less width. That's it!
Twisting away from what you said about viruses not being an issue since Windows 95, and me pointing out to you that Windows constantly demands antivirus software proves you wrong.
I have no problem with Windows or OSX warning me of a threat, the difference is in Windows the threat is real and nothing has changed, despite the FUD you are still trying to spread.
Ok besides the Bluray, can all you people whining for something inbetween the iMac and Mac Pro now SHUT UP please!!!
I think these looks awesome, the only thing I am not sure of yet is how the bottom of the black is a harsh straight line instead of curved edges... The jury is still out on that for me.
Also, are they ever going to make the mouse and keyboard black so they match?The new Magic Mouse would have been HOT in black!
I also wonder now if they will switch all the products to 16:9 like I predicted and was ridiculed for!
send it to Colorware, they'll paint it
Not you again.
SMP is getting dated by other and easier solutions.
CUDA isn't GPU agnostic. OpenCL can even be used on the Cell Processor.
You're lying through your bloody teeth and you know it. Snow Leopard uses less HDD spaces for a start. At least Aiden tells the truth.
Umm, because you can?
If you hate your unibody so much why dont you just hurry up and sell it. Oh wait, that means you'll lose a hobby. Dissing on companies THAT MAKE FAR MORE MONEY THAN YOU EVER WILL.
Not even close to being true. Blu-ray is meant to be watched wherever people want to watch it. I have a better than any Apple display sitting on my desk right now. I've hooked my dedicated blu-ray player up to it as well as an external blu-ray reader connected to my PCs and the picture is downright stunning.
As for audio, as long as you have a good DAC, headphone amp, and a set of Audio Technica, Grado, or Sennheiser headphones (NO BOSE or Sony), you'll be able to hear every fine detail in the audio, just not in surround sound.
Not only that, but some of us like to hook our computers up to our home theater systems. This is where Macs fail, as they don't have HDMI or blu-ray capabilities. I hook my Windows PC up to my home theater system via a single HDMI cable all the time to enjoy videos and games. But I can't do it the same way with my Mac because I need a mess of cables and adapters and I have to run Windows to get support for what I want or need to do.
Proper upscaling will not negatively affect the video quality.
Well, neither one of those is true either. But blu-ray on a laptop is either for the person who travels a lot or has their system hooked up to a nice external display. Plus blu-ray doesn't require a lot of CPU time. Thanks to bitstream decoding in Windows, my original unibody MacBook pushes blu-ray video at around 15% average CPU use. In OS X, thanks to the lack of bitstream decoding of video, H.264 standard definition video and DVD video take about 20-25% CPU time. Blu-ray video in Windows takes less CPU time than standard definition video in OS X.
Funny you say things like that when OS X actually detects a small number of malicious apps itself (built-in minor virus detection) and constantly warns the user about downloadable apps possibly containing malware. Every time I install an app that I've downloaded, OS X warns me it may contain malware.
So OS X is every bit as bad as Windows when it comes to warning the user about malware.
Maybe if Apple put as much time into making the OS stable as they do coming up with warning screens, OS X would be as good as Windows and not years behind?
Well, as far as the new iMacs go, it's nice to see Apple offering a $2,200 system with the same specs as PCs had a year ago. Since they're so far behind the curve, maybe we'll finally get HDMI and blu-ray on Macs at the end of 2011? Seems it takes Apple about two years to finally start offering features that were standard in PCs... two years ago. That means we should see dedicated graphics in 13.3" Macs sometime in 2011! hah!
Yet your argument is flawed. You dont even say the magical and mystical screen that you're using for a start. Stop looking at Apple.com for cables. You're arguing that screen development relates to OS stability? Most dedicated GPUs in 13" laptops are things like 4350s. They're not really better than the 9400.
BTW, Even ATI support m/Display Port. Their 5870 6 uses m/Display Port.
I have not gone through all the posts so apologies if this has been said before (and I would think it has!)
After many years great service and still going strong, I was planning to upgrade my iMac G4 to a nice 27 inch iMac but I shall be keeping my money in my pocket, as a protest really at the price difference between UK and the US. I know it always happens but £260 on the base 27 is a joke.
Even £130 difference on the new white MacBook.
No bigger Apple fan than me but this time they have gone too far.
I think the price of the base 27 inch is closer than you think. The US price is $1,699. Now if you convert that to Sterling at today's buy rate (the best I could find online is 1.6018), you get £1,060.68. On top of this you need to add import duty, which I think is 3.7%, and then add VAT at 15%. This gives a grand total of £1,264.92, which I make about £84 cheaper. So no need to protest and you can upgrade your iMac G4 after all
Actually, you're wrong.
Windows does NOT demand anti-virus software. It recommends it, but it does NOT demand it.
Much the same way that OS X has security alerts.
Also, look at some of the last few Windows viruses. What were they caused by? Security flaws in Quicktime being exploited.
The only way a person can realistically become infected with malware in a fully updated Windows environment, be it XP, 7, or Vista, is to actively download, install, and run that malware. The days of auto-infection have been gone longer than Mac OS has had pre-emptive multi-tasking.
On another note, I just watched the iMac promo video. I find it hilarious that they talk about HD video and how good HD video will look on the new iMac displays.
What HD video? iTunes HD video? It can barely qualify as "HD". It's 720p and encoded at 4.5Mbps. In most cases, thanks to a very poor encoder, it doesn't even look as good as an upscaled DVD thanks to compression artifacting. On that 27" iMac that poorly encoded HD video has to be upscaled by 4x. But whats that? Since Apple doesn't take proper advantage of the GPU for video playback, the video just gets blown up! No proper scaling. So you're going to get an already blocky 720p video blown up by 4x. Those blocky pixels are going to be 4x larger on that 27" iMac. The only way to get true high definition video is to install Windows with a blu-ray reader.
And they talk about faster processors and more storage and they show it running a couple of games briefly. They completely ignore the fact that none of the included GPUs are powerful enough to run any modern game at native resolution at moderate settings and playable frame-rates. The 9400M will only play modern games at sub-HD resolutions and medium settings, while the ATI cards will be able to push modern games at 720p and medium, sometimes high settings. But at 720p you're looking at that picture being blown up by either two or four times depending on which model you have. Playing a game at 720p and medium settings isn't going to look pretty when each pixel is being increased in size by 4 times, even if the GPU is doing hardware scaling.
Why? Don't want someone showing Macs are a ripoff?
What other and easier solutions? Multi-threading is multi-threading no matter how you look at it. A developer that has years worth of code that is fully optimized is not going to drop it in favor of Apple's GCD, when it offers no performance improvement, it just "makes it easier".
And the Cell is junk, simple. CUDA might not be GPU agnostic, but there are far more apps taking advantage of it in Windows than there are OpenCL apps.
Only because Apple changed the way HDD space is measured in Snow Leopard. Funny how my HDD went from 148GB to 160.4GB when I installed Snow Leopard!
Because I can what? It's a well documented fact that Apple artificially limits certain systems from booting 64-bit kernel in Snow Leopard. The new 13.3" MacBook Pro can boot 64-bit kernel, but the 13.3" unibody cannot. Why is that? Same exact internal hardware. It can run 64-bit Windows, so why not a 64-bit kernel in OS X? Apple has a pretty long history of imposing artificial limits. Just look at the iBooks. Apple artificially limited the display output capabilities. People were able to re-enable those features via third party hacks. Now Apple artificially limits what Macs can or cannot run the 64-bit kernel.
Yet your argument is flawed. You dont even say the magical and mystical screen that you're using for a start. Stop looking at Apple.com for cables. You're arguing that screen development relates to OS stability?
What? Apple.com for cables? What are you talking about? Where did I mention anything about screens relating to OS stability?
Are you even attempting to read my post or are you just deliberately mis-interpreting it? Because it sounds to me like you're not even reading what I'm saying and you're just saying whatever you can to try to make me look bad, which you fail at miserably just because of the fact that you didn't read what I said.
Twist anyway you want, split hairs any way you want, however - you said "there have been no virus issues since Windows 95". Windows the OS demanded like a petulant child does - every time I opened it (until I found one that came recommended). Reminding me constantly to protect my computer from viruses - the very viruses that you say have not been a problem since 95.
So whether you call it demanding or recommending, Windows told me to protect against viruses - and as I said - these would be the viruses you keep saying have not been an issue since 95.
As for the rest of your rant and attempt to divert attention from the FUD you were spreading, as I said before - same old, same old.
So 50 million pop up balloons doesnt make you go nuts?
But OSX doesn't really have Alerts at all.
And flaws in flash... and Socks. Oh and dont forget that nasty MS Java virus.
Or an external BDR with VLC?
GCD stil used threads but it abstracts it, making it more accessible. So I wouldn't look to those that already do multicore programming, but those who today don't do it.
Well stating the obvious. A technology that is out for 2 years has more apps supporting it, then something that has been released a couple of months ago.
Why? Don't want someone showing Macs are a ripoff?
You're like that kid that sits in the corner that has no friends because he thinks he needs to correct the world.
It doesnt even have to be GCD. There is OpenCL for multicoring. There even specific interchangeable languages like Haskell. Just because you dont want to learn a new language/style doest mean other developers dont want to.
There are many Supercomputer owners and Universities that would disagree with you.
Well, isnt that obvious. OpenCL was just released.
You're the kettle calling the pot black.
Why? Don't want someone showing Macs are a ripoff?
You're like that kid that sits in the corner that has no friends because he thinks he needs to correct the world.
It doesnt even have to be GCD. There is OpenCL for multicoring. There even interchangeable languages like Haskell. Just because you dont want to learn a new language/style doest mean other developers dont want to.
You seriously cant think that thats the only reason.
Just like Microsoft artificially Limits windows. Oh Snap!
You said that macs dont do HDMI. m/Display Port can do everything.
I was referring to the Security Warning screens.
BTW, you make yourself look bad. You're a well known troll.
How about those new iMacs They look terrific to me and all those people crying about this and crying about that there is allways windblows. I cant believe all the crying on this thread and lets get back on topic. This is the iMac thread and the new machines are awesome. There isnt another all in one that comes close to the elegance, sleekness and style of iMac. 16 Gb of Ram ? what the.....heck. Remember this isnt a software thread people its about Apples fantastic all in one.
They look terrific to me and all those people crying about this and crying about that there is allways windblows. I cant believe all the crying on this thread and lets get back on topic. This is the iMac thread and the new machines are awesome. There isnt another all in one that comes close to the elegance, sleekness and style of iMac. 16 Gb of Ram ? what the.....heck. Remember this isnt a software thread people its about Apples fantastic all in one.How about those new iMacs
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How about those new iMacs
I think I know my University present.
Something thats has not been talked about much concerning the new iMac is how did apple get thousands and thousands into storage in the U.S. without anyone taking notice? I ordered one yesterday and it was on the way the same day meaning they have been sitting here for awhile. Are they all in plain brown boxes labeled top secret?
Something thats has not been talked about much concerning the new iMac is how did apple get thousands and thousands into storage in the U.S. without anyone taking notice? I ordered one yesterday and it was on the way the same day meaning they have been sitting here for awhile. Are they all in plain brown boxes labeled top secret?
you would have thought that someone would have taken a sneeky photo
Something thats has not been talked about much concerning the new iMac is how did apple get thousands and thousands into storage in the U.S. without anyone taking notice? I ordered one yesterday and it was on the way the same day meaning they have been sitting here for awhile. Are they all in plain brown boxes labeled top secret?
Pretty Much.
I think the price of the base 27 inch is closer than you think. The US price is $1,699. Now if you convert that to Sterling at today's buy rate (the best I could find online is 1.6018), you get £1,060.68. On top of this you need to add import duty, which I think is 3.7%, and then add VAT at 15%. This gives a grand total of £1,264.92, which I make about £84 cheaper. So no need to protest and you can upgrade your iMac G4 after all
Not quite sure about that? I based it on post 36 https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8671334/ which showed a total inc tax (at 8.25%) giving a total of $1728.75 which at $1.60 exchange is £1080.46.
(Mind you looking again at his order on post 36 not sure how he got his Mac at less than advertised price!) at full list it brings it down to £199 difference.
The 27 isn't that much taller than the previous 24, but I want to see it in person, because it does "sound" big