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it is sad indeed, Core i3 performance is similar to C2D, but there is no reason to keep the old technology when there is a new technology for similar price available.

also 8GB is the maximum or it is because there is no 2X8GB kits available yet?

The Celeron i3 uses 40% more power for lesser performance. I'd say that's a good reason.
 
To all those people saying "Why do they still include a DVD drive? or They'll be out of date soon - who uses CD's?... Just how ignorant can you get?!

Given these are 'supposed' to be Professional products, a DVD drive is the first feature you'd have on the list in terms of make-up. I study audio technology at University, and for all the countless people that have the MacBook's here, a laptop without a CD drive is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. We burn discs every week, as do the Film students, photography students... Just because, as an individual, you don't need the drive does not mean everyone else feels the same way. Compact Discs have a long future, but even that is only based on whether Philips continue to support the rights.

Although I'm sure Jobs would want Blu-Ray support, you are all forgetting that when he referred to "a bag of hurt", he was talking in retrospect of the legal situation. Sony haven't just handed over the rights to Blu-Ray technology willingly - this is business, and they are competing. The only consolation as far as this situation is concerned is that The Times suggested Apple were investigating a 'loop-hole' in the rights to use Blu-Ray - an already long and expensive process.

Then their is the question of how Apple would distribute Blu-Ray drives. Even 2/3 years ago, it was standard to have the choice of the silly 'Combo-Drive' or the 'Super-Drive' on MacBooks, and I would imagine the same situation will occur should Apple find rights; to upgrade to the Blu-Ray drive will cost. This isn't solely because Apple are stingy - its because they need to find out whether there is a market or a need for Blu-Ray within the consumer domain.

But even if all this is true... Apple then still needs to develop their own Software to support the Blu-Ray drives. 'DVD Player' will probably be replaced by a universal DVD/Blu program, as well as a number of other OS X updates. These updates are not going to be typical downloads - they are part of the core OS, and I can imagine them being implemented in 10.7.

So, as you can see, its ok ranting "Just put the drives in!!!!!", but it's no means a simple process.

sorry, but you can't tell me that Apple, the company known for licensing music and movies from the labels and studios can't manage clearing blu-ray licensing! thats BS. Apple doesn't want to do it because at this point they want to stall blu-ray. sadly many of us need it for photography and i'd like to watch content on the road. but apple won't even give the option for it.

these drives are not that expensive. they can do ones that just read discs, and can burn dvd/cd. or the option to do burn all three formats. they just work. but will apple use these drives? no

and yes they would have to program dvd player / quicktime to work with BD. but... of course it can be done.

all of this is doable ... but only if apple wants to do it. and Steve Jobs is being remarkably stubborn. don't think it is anything but apple wanting to stonewall BD to protect their movie sales/rentals at itunes. thats the story. nothing else.
 
The models that matter got decent updates (high end 15" and 17"). That's good.

As far as the 13" models, who cares? Buy an air. ;)
 
is a 13" MBP worth getting over a normal macbook?? seems they have the same specs still....

MACBOOK
13-inch
2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB DDR3 memory
250GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
Built-in 7-hour battery2
$999


MACBOOK PRO 2010
13-inch
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz
4GB Memory
250GB hard drive1
SD card slot
Built-in battery (10 hours)
NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics
$1,199
 
everyone shut up, you expected something based on what you think should be released and rumors. The 13" got updated but not what you wanted, the 15 and 17" got updated but more than you want to spend. Go buy a damn PC then. I just bought the cheapest 15" with antiglare screen for under $2000 including tax and free shipping. I am very happy with this since I am upgrading from a iMac G5 that is over 5 years old. This laptop will last me for about 4 years. You get what you pay for and I believe a Mac is way better than any PC, it is for what I use it for. People complain because they can't get what they want, can't afford it or have to justify a prior purchase.

You don't like it, SHUT UP

* Next level
* Not to worry

LOL Best darn joke update in a long time. Thank you Steve, and no I will not shut up because this really was a bad update before it was released. Next update in 6-12 months. FUNNY!
 
I wager it is because the i3/i5 etc requires apple to include a gfx BOARD ala the 15" and 17", so far apple just cant do it due to space/ cost.

I had this worry when I heard about intel & Nvidia falling out months ago, it has come true.:(

Can you (or anyone else) explain in small, simple words about the Nvidia/Intel fight and what effect it has on MBPs? Speak to me as you would a child. :eek:
 
Who the hell uses optical mediums anymore...? Discs are going down just like floppies did...real fast...

Uh... every video producer. Uh... every audio studio that does audio for video. Uh... every wedding videographer. Uh... everyone having anything to do with video, period. All have been dealing with clients screaming for Blu-ray for THREE YEARS now.

This insane suicidal aversion to providing true cutting-edge workstations will kill Apple.

And good riddance.

:apple:
 
is a 13" MBP worth getting over a normal macbook?? seems they have the same specs still....

MACBOOK
13-inch
2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB DDR3 memory
250GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
Built-in 7-hour battery2
$999


MACBOOK PRO 2010
13-inch
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz
4GB Memory
250GB hard drive1
SD card slot
Built-in battery (10 hours)
NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics
$1,199

slightly faster processor
double RAM
longer life battery
much more advanced graphics
 
is a 13" MBP worth getting over a normal macbook?? seems they have the same specs still....
I'd say so. Go for it. Better enclosure and graphics card. For only $200. You will regret not spending the extra $200 once your white macbook is scuffed, chipped, and wrecked. Many reviews report scuffs by the time they are done their review.
 
I must say, this is a disappointing update, and my expectations weren't very high to begin with. I did not expect USB 3.0. I did not expect Blu-ray. I did not expect Lightpeak. That's all fine. But what I did expect was Quad-core (even if it was just on the 17"). I did expect i3 processors on the 13". It's bloody 2010 and they're STILL using Core2duo on what they call a PRO machine?! That's ridiculous! I expected a 16:9 switch, but i'm not too bothered by that. And the fact that they're still using 256 memory graphics is lame as well. *sigh* "Taking macs to the next level in 2010!" Yeah right.
 
Comments like this make you look less than intelligent. Price went up 100$, and you get +2GB of ram, +90GB of HD space, +0.14GHZ of processor, better graphics card, and 3 hours more on your battery life.

smarten up~

Did it in the US?

also I bet those components cost apple less now then they did at the last update funboy
 
Even Apple Admits This Is Just A "Bump"

On the Apple webpage the computers are a footnote.

iPad still front and center is getting all the love at Apple.

Computers....not so much.

Wonder if Steve already has plans to torpedo the computer in the traditional sense as part of the "magical revolution".
:eek:
 
You know you're in deep crap when...

....your main tech selling video at the Apple store is on the aluminum case and how its made...

:apple:
 
I must say, this is a disappointing update, and my expectations weren't very high to begin with. I did not expect USB 3.0. I did not expect Blu-ray. I did not expect Lightpeak. That's all fine. But what I did expect was Quad-core (even if it was just on the 17"). I did expect i3 processors on the 13". It's bloody 2010 and they're STILL using Core2duo on what they call a PRO machine?! That's ridiculous! I expected a 16:9 switch, but i'm not too bothered by that. And the fact that they're still using 256 memory graphics is lame as well. *sigh* "Taking macs to the next level in 2010!" Yeah right.

i3 isn't a "pro" processor. I'd be disappointed if it was used in the regular MacBooks, frankly.
 
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