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No i5/i7 on the 13"? There's a simple explanation: they couldn't get the graphics situation worked out with Intel and they didn't want to "downgrade" to Intel integrated graphics only.

As I've been saying for a while, there isn't enough room on the 13" logic board for both the 2-die Arrandale and a dedicated graphics chip. And Jobs is loath to give customers options like removing the optical drive.

So much for taking the MBPs to the next level... what a joke. One of the worst updates ever! How disappointing!

What Steve said was that "new Macs will take Apple to the next level."

Just for my understanding. is the i7 quad-core or not?

Arrandale, man, Arrandale.
 
Did I miss something? It seems all anybody does with their laptops anymore is use them as portable DVD/Blu-ray players? :confused:

You didn't miss anything, they kept 16:10 because its a "pro" aspect ratio... I.e. for people who actually do work, and not just watch movies
 
Expecting they were going to have 330M or 335M for graphics, but hoping they would go ATI and put in the 5830. Hmm the battery life and the fact that I just bought the Mac Box Set is making me think twice about getting the HP Envy... Even though I can get a higher res screen, better graphics, blu-ray and a faster hard drive for the same price if I buy the Envy (or slightly better processor and battery life with the Mac)... :S
Oh well, I'll wait for a review on notebookcheck and if they manage to squeeze out 7000 points out of 3dmark06 I might reconsider sticking with Mac :p
If it applies to anyone, do you miss using OSX after switching to windows? or windows 7?
 
Did it in the US?

also I bet those components cost apple less now then they did at the last update funboy

I presume you're inferring that the price bump in the U.S. isn't significant, but everywhere in the world people will "suffer" because of it being more expensive.

You don't like where you live? Move. Apple is based out of California - Steve Jobs is American, and it's HIS genius that brings all the amazing Apple products to the world. You want to live in the UK then you'll deal with the prices that you're handed. You think they're arbitrary? No, everything is calculated, everything is set the way it's set because it makes the MOST sense, not the other way around. Everything is done for a reason, and nothing is by accident.

Yeah, those existing components probably do cost them less, and look at everything they've added for the small (SMALL) price increase, it seems like Apple is passing that savings onto you.

You want the best in the world? Then you'll pay the premium. You want to cry about the price? Enjoy Windows 7 and every second you have to spend on the phone with Microsoft tech support, it'll be worth the money in your pocket... laugh
 
Did I miss something? It seems all anybody does with their laptops anymore is use them as portable DVD/Blu-ray players? :confused:

we need unity TV screens are 16x9 the new iMacs are 16x9, they need to convert all laptops screens to 16x9, it would be nice if they didnt reduce the pixels though.
 
NO NOOOO!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!:eek:
DONT SAY WAIT!!! DONT SAY THAT WORD!
the waiting JUST ENDED! im NOT Starting AGAIN lol
If you can't wait, in the current state the base 13" Macbook Pro is a better value.

That will more than likely chance when a Macbook 2010 comes out.

As I've been saying for a while, there isn't enough room on the 13" logic board for both the 2-die Arrandale and a dedicated graphics chip. And Jobs is loath to give customers options like removing the optical drive.
I'm surprised the GeForce 320M exists to be honest. It's more than likely the MCP89 or even MCP99. We're going to need to see part numbers and take aparts first though.
 
Shipping

So where are these MacBook Pro's being assembled and shipped from?? I can't wait for this thing to arrive
 
Think I'm going to go with the i7 15" build to order with hi-res screen and 7200rpm disk. Just need to figure out how I can apply my fiancee's Intel employee discount. :)
 
Guys, apple fanbois and apple likers alike...

Everyone has to admit, this it the worst update for Macbook pros EVER... they offer NOTHING worth spending the same money (or in some cases) More money... with no added features... They still run $300-$600 higher than comparable laptops with W7, with less features!?

Please someone explain to me how this is a great update, like some people are saying?


um...automatic graphics switching is pretty huge.... and 10hr battery life
 
I presume you're inferring that the price bump in the U.S. isn't significant, but everywhere in the world people will "suffer" because of it being more expensive.

You don't like where you live? Move. Apple is based out of California - Steve Jobs is American, and it's HIS genius that brings all the amazing Apple products to the world. You want to live in the UK then you'll deal with the prices that you're handed. You think they're arbitrary? No, everything is calculated, everything is set the way it's set because it makes the MOST sense, not the other way around. Everything is done for a reason, and nothing is by accident.

Yeah, those existing components probably do cost them less, and look at everything they've added for the small (SMALL) price increase, it seems like Apple is passing that savings onto you.

You want the best in the world? Then you'll pay the premium. You want to cry about the price? Enjoy Windows 7 and every second you have to spend on the phone with Microsoft tech support, it'll be worth the money in your pocket... laugh

I started to Gag after the first paragraph.:rolleyes:

couldnt read anymore sorry
 
I don't really get it why people are upset there's no quadcore. I mean, everyone was eagerly expecting arrandale (right?), which is dualcore. No surprise in this update...
 
There is no i3 available in 25W, and the i3's available are less powerful than a C2D. Also, it would have added an additional $100 to add it. There's no point in going with an i3.

The graphics switching is Optimus, which is pretty cool stuff.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/nvidia-optimus-automates-graphics-switching-promises-the-best-o/

There are laptops shipping with USB3.0, it requires an extra chip on the motherboard but I'm not sure why Apple didn't include it this time around. Though, Optimus is a much better addition than USB3.0 is. Maybe Apple is still working on implementing it or just don't think it's ready to be deployed.
 
I'm glad they're finally updated, been waiting for a long, long time.

That said, I see the pricing difference between UK & France hasn't changed

ie the top end MBP is £1799 which is €2038,33, but at the french Apple its selling for €2149.

Why do we have to pay 110€ more on the continent for the same product?
 
Pissed. Royally.

I've been visiting Mac Rumours for what seems like forever now, but this is the first time I've ever felt compelled to bitch about something in the forums. Actually, this is the first time I've ever really felt compelled to bitch at Apple, period.

I've been using Macs for about 8 years, after having to lean Shake for a job. As soon as the Intel Macbooks came out, back in the summer of 2006, I shelled out about 1200 bucks and bought a shiny, white, Core Duo Macbook (and then I upgraded the ram and hard drive to 2 gigs/100gigs).

Cutting the long story to a very short one, now it's 2010, Apple has discontinued Shake, seems to be discontinuing Final Cut Pro, and has effectively urinated on it's costumers looking for a serious upgrade to replace their half-working computers (in this case: me). I can't believe that in 4 years, all they can offer is nothing short of a minor spec update... basically doubling the processor speed, ram and hard drive of my machine, adding a graphics card but removing the firewire port in the process.

I don't want to rant on too much about this, because everyone here has heard a variation of this before but this is, in a word: ********. At this rate, it'll be 16 years before they put a terabyte drive in their cheapest laptop, and all of their proprietary software will exist in their App store for their mobile devices, and they won't even bother making anything for their computer line. Photoshop works just as well on a PC, Nuke is cross-platform, Avid has retaken the world, and Aperture just isn't that great.

It's really depressing to watch the company leverage down costs for their iPads, while refusing to do the same for their Macbooks. I have no idea at what point Apple abandoned it's commitment (maybe it never had one?) to "creative professionals" - dumb as that term is - but after years of using Macs, I can't think of one decent reason not to switch back to PCs.
 
So what would the advantage be to upgrading to the anti-glare hi-res rather than regular hi-res? don't the colors look more vivid on the regular hi-res? what about the speed on the HDD? why is 7200 better than 5400? doesn't that increase the heat? either way, it's a 15" i7 for me =D
 
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